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AIBU to consider my upbringing as being traumatic? I’d love to hear people’s views on this.

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blackkitty1234 · 25/11/2020 12:27

Hi, I have mental health problems and trying to work out if it’s connected to the past. I’m also NC with my mother and trying to work out if I am being reasonable to maintain NC as about to have my first baby.

My parents separated shortly after I was born. My birth father was in and out of my life. He had a problem with drugs and passed away when I was a teenager from an overdose.

My mother met Pete was I was very young and they had another child. My mother had mental health problems and this interfered with her ability to care for us. I have memories of her being bed ridden. Pete would go out to work but would leave a bag of food by the bed so she could make us sandwiches when he was away. My mother would set no go zones within the house due to her anxiety. I remember not being allowed to enter the kitchen and I believed something terrible would happen if I did. At one point, they had an argument and Pete walked out. I don’t remember how long he was gone but I do remember not being able to enter the bathroom. My mother would put a nappy on the floor, to stand over and urinate on. This is what we did whilst we could not use the bathroom.

I was brought up believing Pete was my father as my actual birth father was out of the picture so much. Pete had another daughter, Mary, from a previous relationship. One day we were playing in the bedroom and Mary told me that Pete wasn’t my father, and that my actual father was called Mike. I think I was about six so I was naturally confused and later confronted my mother about this, and she confirmed it was true. I don’t know when but Pete eventually adopted me and became my legal guardian. My mother and Pete had an unstable relationship and separated not long after the birth of my sister. One of my first memories is of them both physically fighting in the living room. We continued to see Pete, and would go over his flat for sleepovers every other weekend. I remember feeling like the odd one out because I was frequently reminded that i was adopted. Pete was a plumber and would sometimes bring us with him to work, the customer would see us and ask him how many kids he had which he would respond to with ‘two, this ones adopted’. My step sister was especially cruel, and would often remind me that ‘blood was thicker than water’ and that the adoption was ‘just a bit of paper’. Pete would bare witness to this behaviour but never intervened. He had an awful temper, one day he completely lost it and told me that my mother had forced him to take me on. I must have been about eleven and it really upset me.

My mother met another man, Ian, not long after separating with Pete. She moved him into our house very quickly. Ian was abusive. It started with name calling and I was frequently told how stupid I was, etc. Although things took a really bad turn when the relationship stated breaking down as he got quite violent towards me. I was about twelve and I remember being slapped, pinned against walls, strangled and thrown around. I think I was an easy target for him to take his frustrations out on.

Not long after my mother and Ian separated I was groomed and abused by a man called Jake. My memories and understanding of what happened is really unclear. Jake was my mother’s friend. I don’t know when it started but I know it went on for over a year, possibly two. My mother worked nights at a nightclub and Jake knew this, so he would call by the house when she was at work often bringing alcohol and sometimes weed. He slowly gained my trust and built up a relationship with me to the point that our relationship became sexual. I think it was restricted to kissing, touching and fondling but my memories are unclear. I do remember sleeping over his flat when I was 14, I slept in his bed and woke up in the morning with him touching me. Jake would make all sorts of promises about the future, like once I turned 16 we were going to move abroad together, etc. I eventually told my mother was was happening and she was shocked, I don’t think she knew what was going on. She called the police, and they came over to take a statement but nothing came of it. In fact I think I told my mother twice, but the first time I retracted it and I can’t remember why. Her boyfriend at the time, Jamie, had got very drunk one night and touched my breasts and bottom in the kitchen. I did try and tell my mum about this also but she thought I was lying again. I don’t know why she believed me the second time I told her about Jake and not about Jamie. I believe social services got involved. One thing has stuck with me; Pete came round to collect my sister. I was fifteen and I don’t remember what he said but he was visibly angry with me because social services were involved therefore he was afraid they may remove us, or more importantly to him, remove my sister.

I left school at sixteen and headed straight to college then university. I enjoyed university but it was also a traumatic time as it set the stage for the break down in my relationship with my mother. I moved into student accommodation at eighteen and was essentially pushed out of my mother’s home thereafter. My mother’s home had two rooms downstairs, one was a living room and one was my bedroom, so when I moved out she converted my bedroom into the living room and the old living room became a dining room. I spent the first two years in student accommodation not even bothering to return home for the summer. My mental health began deteriorating towards the end of my second year to the point I failed my course and had to resist a year. I moved back into my mother’s home but my room was gone so I slept on the sofa. I stayed at my mother’s while resitting my second year but It was less than ideal. In hindsight I shouldn’t have let it go in for so long and found alternative accommodation sooner. Things got pretty bad towards the end of my time there; I was repetitively told I had moved out so shouldn’t expect to be able to move back in, that there wasn’t enough space in the house for three people, and that I needed to go. I was trying to move out but struggling to find anywhere. I eventually found a room but felt like I’d been pushed out which was hurtful. My sister was never pressured to move out and still lives there to this day. I have never understood why we were treated so differently in this respect, and the fact that we were has deepened the feelings of hurt that I already harboured.

Thanks for reading

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borageforager · 25/11/2020 12:32

Gosh, that’s upsetting to read and I would absolutely consider you to have had a traumatic childhood (Although I also think of you feel it was traumatic, it was traumatic, and you don’t have to justify it with a list of bad things).

Have you had/are you having counselling? I hope you’re in a safe secure place now.

blackkitty1234 · 25/11/2020 12:36

@borageforager

Gosh, that’s upsetting to read and I would absolutely consider you to have had a traumatic childhood (Although I also think of you feel it was traumatic, it was traumatic, and you don’t have to justify it with a list of bad things).

Have you had/are you having counselling? I hope you’re in a safe secure place now.

Thanks for taking the time to read. I have started therapy. I have one session a week, but I am only on my second week. I had to wait twelve months for it because their waiting lists are so long. I am trying to figure out what I need to bring up with my therapist as I have a lot of baggage, I don’t know where to start. I am happily married now and we are expecting so things are on the up. x
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Restlessinthenorth · 25/11/2020 12:40

This is such a sad story. I'm sorry all those awful things happened to you. Have you heard about adverse childhood experiences? There is a massive body of work about this now and maybe it would help you to make sense of some of your experiences as an adult. If you chose to have a look at it, please remember, you are not defined by what happened to you, and many people flourish after trauma!

borageforager · 25/11/2020 12:44

blackkitty1234 it’s good to hear you are in a happy family now. I hope you find the therapy healing x

Wnikat · 25/11/2020 12:46

Can you show your therapist what you’ve written here? Yes you had a traumatic upbringing and yes all of it is relevant to your current mental state.

Well done for getting out and getting to university and for getting help. You must be a very strong person.

20shadesofgreen · 25/11/2020 12:55

That is an awful catalogue of trauma and abuse you experienced blackkitty. It is awful when you start to see things for how it was but it does get better. I find the holistic psychologist on Instagram really helpful for making sense of traumatic experiences.

Stompythedinosaur · 25/11/2020 13:01

Of course that is traumatic. There's a really good TED talk about ACEs (adverse childhood experiences) which talks about some of these things.

Coronawireless · 25/11/2020 13:05

By anyone’s standards that was a dreadful childhood. As a pp said, it’s good that you are able to detach from it and see it for what it was. Wishing you all the best going forward with your own little family.

user1471519931 · 25/11/2020 13:07

You poor thing - you didn't deserve any of that. Be kind to yourself. X

blackkitty1234 · 25/11/2020 13:11

@Stompythedinosaur
Thanks. I didn’t see anything wrong with it for so long, it was just normal to me. I will check out the talk. Thanks for recommending Smile

@Restlessinthenorth
No, I haven’t heard of it. Will take a look. Thanks x

@Wnikat
I will ask her if she wants to see it as it’s hard to say it all in an hour long session. Thanks.

@20shadesofgreen
Yeah, you just don’t know when you have nothing to compare it with. Thank you. Will check it out.

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user17425642134531 · 25/11/2020 13:13

Yes, very traumatic. I'm sorry. Flowers

Hope therapy goes well for you.

crosstalk · 25/11/2020 13:26

Gosh, that’s upsetting to read and I would absolutely consider you to have had a traumatic childhood (Although I also think of you feel it was traumatic, it was traumatic, and you don’t have to justify it with a list of bad things).

The OP's experience is horrific and traumatic. However I don't think you can easily say that "if you feel it was traumatic it was traumatic". That's saying that someone who say - had to move home because of divorce and couldn't have a pony or a dog - might find it "traumatic" or a kid who moved home, friends and schools because of parental jobs/necessity might find it "traumatic". Just because they feel it was traumatic doesn't make it so, just an uncomfortable time of life. And it belittles the experience of people like OP.

Coronawireless · 25/11/2020 13:28

Agree

dottiedodah · 25/11/2020 13:32

I am sorry to hear about your childhood .I think it does sound very traumatic Im afraid .You have done so very well going on to Uni and living on your own as well.Its good you are having Therapy and congratulations on your pregnancy .I hope everything works out well for you. Sending hugs to you xxx

KatieB55 · 25/11/2020 13:40

Maybe start journaling and write down your thoughts - many people find this helpful. I would say that you did have an abusive childhood and hope that the therapy will help you.

RonaRossi · 25/11/2020 13:41

Nothing particularly useful to add sorry but yes op I would consider that traumatic x

liveitwell · 25/11/2020 13:41

I'm so sorry you had this upbringing. It sounds like everyone who was supposed to be putting you and your safety first, let you down. Your father, your mother, Pete, Jake, Jamie... All of them let you down.

That's not your fault. The centre of this is your mum and her poor decision making. She didn't put her kids first, she put her own needs first. She didn't get help when she should have. The men took advantage of you. Pete lacked the emotional intelligence to know his words would deeply impact you.

I'm really impressed through all of this you were able to keep a bright future in mind and pursue further education. You clearly have a lot of personal resilience.

I would recommend surrounding yourself with the people that make you happy. People that add positivity to your life. I would not recommend welcoming your mum back in - it's not worth it and you don't owe her it.

This is the time to put yourself first. Concentrate on you, your baby, your friends xxx

ginghamtablecloths · 25/11/2020 13:41

There's a lot to unravel here kitty and yes, it was traumatic and it wasn't your fault. I hope you can learn to put it behind you and move on. It'll always be there and you'll never forget but it doesn't have to define you. Flowers

Freudiancrash · 25/11/2020 13:44

@crosstalk

Gosh, that’s upsetting to read and I would absolutely consider you to have had a traumatic childhood (Although I also think of you feel it was traumatic, it was traumatic, and you don’t have to justify it with a list of bad things).

The OP's experience is horrific and traumatic. However I don't think you can easily say that "if you feel it was traumatic it was traumatic". That's saying that someone who say - had to move home because of divorce and couldn't have a pony or a dog - might find it "traumatic" or a kid who moved home, friends and schools because of parental jobs/necessity might find it "traumatic". Just because they feel it was traumatic doesn't make it so, just an uncomfortable time of life. And it belittles the experience of people like OP.

Absolute nonsense. The perception of trauma is fundamentally subjective. Technically, 'traumatic', refers to life threatening experiences for a diagnosis of PTSD. What's more common for those with more of a complex developmental trauma childhood, is many life altering experiences (e.g. humiliation, degradation, divorce, bullying, abuse, neglect, parental drug use and MH problems etc) all of which can be perceived as traumatic, but which are not technically life threatening.

Some people can be, and are, traumatised by events others may judge as relatively benign. It is not our place to judge whether something is bad enough to be classed as trauma. The OP's experiences are undoubtedly traumatic, and highly distressing, and its not difficult to see how this would lead to how she is feeling right now.

OP I would avoid limiting yourself to looking at ACEs, they are very restrictive and do not capture the extent, depth and range of traumatic experiences people often face. Having experiences not on the list don't mean that they weren't traumatic. You'd probably find it more useful to look at complex developmental trauma information. "The Body keeps the score" is a fantastic book worth reading.

I say this as a clinical psychologist working in a trauma field.

Freudiancrash · 25/11/2020 13:45

*doesn't

RatanPostmaster · 25/11/2020 13:48

I am so sorry you had to experience a traumatic childhood. I agree with others that you should give a copy of what you have written here to your therapist. It is so well written that it would give her a good understanding of what you had to endure in your childhood.

DisappearingGirl · 25/11/2020 13:51

Wow that is awful OP. A catalogue of different things, each of which would be awful on their own.

You have done so well to get through University and be getting on with your own life. Flowers and good luck to you.

BorryMum · 25/11/2020 13:52

I think you have done amazingly well after a very tough start in life. Please consider keeping up the therapy from time to time as when you have a child of your own you may at times find it hard to reconcile what happened in your own childhood when your child reaches the age you were when such difficult things happened to you. From what you have said though you have already overcome so much and I am sure you will be an amazing and supportive mum

tsmainsqueeze · 25/11/2020 13:58

Hi i am appalled at how you were treated .
This is no reflection whatsoever on you , it sounds like every single adult in your life failed you.
I would not let your mother back into you or your childs life , she has damaged you far too much already.
I hope you can heal and that the life you continue to lead is filled with much happiness .

rhowton · 25/11/2020 13:59

It sounds so traumatic. Reading this has further confirmed that I need to foster. I really want you be to 1 again and I could adopt you (without any negative words about it) and love you and protect you.

This kind of thing really upsets me. You shouldn't have had to go through any of it.