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Adult son going cold turkey off Citalopram, I need a handhold

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pimples · 14/12/2019 18:05

My 25 year old son has been on max Citalopram dose, think it's 200mg, for about 3 years now.

I don't see much of him as he lives with his girlfriend 2 hours away, but he seemed to be doing ok.

Today we were having an unusually long and perfectly friendly conversation when he said that actually things are not going well at work, and then that he was stopping his meds.

I cut in to say that probably wasn't a good idea, especially in winter, and he went absolutely ballistic with me, eventually telling me he never wants to see me again, and putting the phone down on me.

We ended up texting, I apologised for sticking my oar in (this is a long running issue), and we eventually sort of semi made up.

Anyway, to my point, he apparently stopped his meds 3 weeks ago without seeing a GP and is feeling absolutely terrible. Has dizziness, can't concentrate and is as depressed as I've ever known him.

I have absolutely no chance of changing his mind, although I know that obviously he should have tapered off under medical supervision.

My question is, how long does withdrawal generally last for someone on that high a dose after several years?

He's exercising, eating and sleeping well but is utterly hopeless about everything and I'm worried about him.

Refusing to see us over Christmas.

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Doyoumind · 14/12/2019 18:09

Not a medic. The withdrawal can take several weeks and, as you said, cold turkey is a very bad idea. I don't think he's going to improve though as his depression is going to get worse. Not sure what to suggest except making sure he knows you are there for him. Is he in a relationship?

pimples · 14/12/2019 18:24

Thanks for responding. Yes, he's living with his girlfriend of almost 4 years.

I guess he'll just have to figure out for himself that he needs to go back on them, but is hoping to just power through the misery in the short term

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eyeswideshit · 14/12/2019 18:41

I've come off the max dose of citalopram (40mg) twice cold turkey and don't remember any side effects. My mental health was already bad (which is why I stopped taking the tablets) Serotonin syndrome is hellish though and you'd definitely know if you're suffering with that.

The thing with all anti depressants is that they affect everyone so differently, one person might suffer no side effects whilst another gets them all.

pimples · 14/12/2019 18:46

Thanks EyesWide, do you mind me asking if you feel any better now? And if so, what helped?

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passthetea · 14/12/2019 18:51

I went cold turkey with citalopram almost 2 weeks ago because I was having horrendous side affects and my mood was still very low. I'm still suffering dizziness, feeling light headed, no concentration and my eyes keep shaking, I was on a much lower dose than your son though but the affects are awful.

eyeswideshit · 14/12/2019 18:52

I'm on a different set of meds now. I've been on 7 different meds over the last 8 years. Finding the right combination has helped and group therapy has made a massive difference for me.

pimples · 14/12/2019 18:53

So sorry you're finding it so tough PassTheTea. I'm guessing that your depression is no better?

It's such a horrible condition, you all have my sympathy 🌺

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pimples · 14/12/2019 18:55

Thanks EyesWide, a different medication is the way to go for DS I feel, but I can't say anything to him without him losing his rag with me

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FruitcakeOfHate · 14/12/2019 18:59

I came off this one and venlafaxine cold turkey and it took a couple of weeks.

pimples · 14/12/2019 19:03

Thanks Fruitcake, have you managed without any drugs now? Sorry for the nosy questions, I guess in just really worried about how DS will cope

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pimples · 14/12/2019 19:30

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FruitcakeOfHate · 14/12/2019 19:41

Not the best but I got sick of going back to the GP and side effects and switching around. Side effects just ugh.

pimples · 14/12/2019 20:02

Thanks all. DH is going to sort out a visit to him next week to hopefully help.

Christmas makes it all even more stressful and worrying

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passthetea · 14/12/2019 20:38

@pimples I'm worse now than I ever was. I have doctors on the 19th for them to test my blood and once the results are back I'm being put on something else. I just wish the dizziness would go i really can't focus at all. Hope your son is ok op.

pimples · 14/12/2019 23:48

PassTheTea, I hope you start to feel better very soon x

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TrueCrimeFan · 15/12/2019 05:24

Had he sought medical advice he would have been advised to apply lower the dose rather than stop cold turkey. His body will be going through withdrawal Thanks

Do you have a relationship with us GF? Could you speak to her and ask if he will listen to her advice to see a GP?

ReturnofSaturn · 15/12/2019 05:34

Wow I didn't know 200 was the max dose!!
I've been on 40 and was told that was the max!

DoTheHop · 15/12/2019 05:41

Your post in entirely contradictory.

A. He's exercising, eating and sleeping well

B. he seemed to be doing ok.

C. things are not going well at work

D. is feeling absolutely terrible. Has dizziness, can't concentrate and is as depressed as I've ever known him.

There's a lot of contradiction there! Which is it?

DoTheHop · 15/12/2019 05:45

Is it possible that while you're his mother, you're not the best person to be discussing this with him? He flies off the handle when you try to advise, so maybe just listen without giving advice?

Pixxie7 · 15/12/2019 06:01

Depends on length of time and dosage. Take heart you know what they say about hurting those closest to you.

pimples · 15/12/2019 12:40

DoTheHop, sorry for the apparent contradictions.

So, I last saw him 1to 1 in September. Seen him once since then at a family do, but couldn't really talk.

We generally have a 20 minute chat over the phone every 10 days or so. During those chats the indications was that he was quite happy. Just started new job in Sept, settling in well, making new friends. Moved to new city for this job.

Then last weekend I got a curt response to my Hello, how's things type text.

Yesterday he texted to suggest a chat. Had about an hour convo about non personal stuff, eg politics, climate change, polarisation in society. Then he said that things weren't going so well at work (just Office politics), and he then suddenly told me he was coming off his Citalopram, I leapt in and said that wasn't a good idea in winter (his mood always dips around now).

He was really verbally abusive, absolutely incandescently angry, referred to previous instances (where I've given my unwelcome opinion which has led to periods of estrangement, ended by my promising to let him make his own decisions and keep my beak out) called me a horrible name and put the phone down.

After a couple of texts he then called me back , apologised for shouting and swearing at me and saying his behaviour wasn't right.

I said, ok so I should have responded to ask why he felt that was the best thing, how he was doing, etc rather than tell him what I thought.

It was then that he told me that he stopped taking the pills about 3 weeks ago because he didn't want to be reliant on them and they make him feel numb.

He said the last 3 years have been hell. He did well at uni, was a happy then, but had a rough time doing his MSc, , basically taught himself computer science, which i was aware was the case. Worked in a very high stress job in the City and jacked it in. He was doing well and earning a lot but the stress was making him a lot worse.

He said he feels utterly hopeless about the future. The withdrawal makes it hard to concentrate, drive or do anything.

He is aware of the need to exercise and is going to the gym. I wish he'd run but can't tell him that. He's eating well because his girlfriend makes him nutritious meals every night. He's sleeping well because he's exhausted.

His GF is extremely supportive of him but I suspect she won't have told him not to go cold turkey. I don't want to go behind his back to ask her to talk him into going back on the meds.

I've told DH that I'm really worried, and so he's going to leave it a few days then suggest a meet up in DS's city and will try to persuade him to see a psychiatrist.

DS hasn't had a regular GP due to 4 moves in 2 years so I think a psychiatrist would help, if he can be persuaded to go.

Sorry for epic

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DoTheHop · 15/12/2019 23:00

Thanks for the clarification.
What's clear is that you are not helping, however well intended your concern and intentions are. So stop it.
Meeting his Dad is a lovely idea, though not if Dad is one of your flying monkeys.
Time to back off and let him contact you. Don't always be the fixer. Don't always know best. Keep your mouth shut and allow him to talk without telling him that Mummy knows best. He's an adult. You actually probably have no idea about anything going on in his life.

DoTheHop · 15/12/2019 23:03

And conversely, his partner probably knows him inside out.

Branleuse · 15/12/2019 23:09

I used 5htp to help me come off mine. Really helped with the brain zaps, although i did reduce for a while first.
Its not great to come off then fast. Its not his best chance of successfully coming off tbh. He needs to cut them down by about a quarter for a couple of weeks and then probably even slower for the last couple of quarters. If you do it too quick the depression comes back on top of the withdrawal symptoms and its pretty hellish

HundredMilesAnHour · 15/12/2019 23:26

To be brutally honest OP, he's an adult. You need to stop interfering and let him do things his way. He's eating well, he's sleeping well, he's going to the gym, it sounds like his girlfriend is taking good care of him. Step back and let him be an adult. If he wants your help or advice, he sounds capable of asking for it.

I came off anti-depressants cold turkey. I felt like death with the most horrendous withdrawal for almost 3 weeks and then suddenly I was fine. The depression never came back. While I was on anti-depessants, I learnt coping mechanisms for managing/combatting depression and these have stood me in good stead for many years now.

You need to trust your son and let him do things his way. If you keep pushing him, you will drive him away.

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