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Am I mentally ill?

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LeeMills · 01/11/2018 21:45

Hello people,

Not in a very good place at the moment.

I’ll try and summarise my position:

I’m 37. My dad is a clever man; my mum I think is mentally retarded.
Mum psychologically abused me for years. Suffered physical beating often at her hands.
Dad taken out of my life. Never really saw him much.
Bullied sometimes at school.
Never had a girlfriend until I was 20.
I almost always seem to misunderstand instructions.
Often can’t follow instructions.
Need things explaining in minute detail. Can’t understand things superficially.
Often don’t understand books or what I’m reading.
University took six years instead of three because I never understood much.
Cannot think abstractly.
Don’t usually understood jokes. Need them explaining.
Always screw up socially – can never connect with people. Ever. Socially awkward.
Serious all the time.
Always screw up relationships – make awful mistakes.
Bright lights – triggers migraines.
Social situations – hate them. Would rather be on my own.
Short-term memory = awful. I’ll be told something and I forget it almost immediately.

Summary – am I thicko? Do I have a learning disability or do I have some kind of disability like Aspergers?

Anybody else relate to this? I fear I’m going to get fired from my job because I keep misunderstanding what my manger is asking me to do.

Thank you!

Lee.

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gamerchick · 01/11/2018 22:01

Well you can start by not calling yourself thick.

You won't know if you have some sort of issue until you've been assessed. I know that people can say what's the point in adulthood but I know men who have been diagnosed with autism in their 50s and it's helped them understand who they are and what kind of help to seek out. It could be you just need a different way of learning something to others and not some sort of didability. I for eg struggle with written instructions but if I'm shown physically I get it immediately, something I found out by accident in my 20s. If you had a diagnoses your work would have to make reasonable adjustments to accommodate it.

You have self awareness which doesn't mean all's lost.

AFistfulofDolores1 · 01/11/2018 22:19

OP, I really, really believe you'd do better asking this of a health professional rather than an internet forum. I know that that means it's a little less easy, but it is probably a lot more helpful.

Fettuccinecarbonara · 01/11/2018 22:30

You went to university, and presumably passed?

You hold down a job?

These are not the actions of anyone ‘thick’

What has caused you to feel this way today? Has there been a trigger? A bad day at work? A relationship problem?

You sound like you have low self-esteem and don’t think of yourself highly.

Try being kind to yourself, what things do you do well? What do you live about your job? Focus on those.

bionicnemonic · 01/11/2018 22:42

Maybe look into ‘slow processing’ which is absolutely not ‘thick’ see if it resonates
www.davidsongifted.org/Search-Database/entry/A10782

Fettuccinecarbonara · 01/11/2018 22:49

Also, and it’s not a pre-requisite of being on here, but you’re on mumsnet. Do you have children? If they’re young, or you’re expecting your first (or your partner is, i’m sorry I’m unsure if you’re male or female!) then those early years are really tough mentally. Lack of sleep, differences of opinion and a demanding child or two all make things seem really difficult.

Fettuccinecarbonara · 03/11/2018 09:45

How are you feeling today?

LeeMills · 05/11/2018 20:20

Hello people,

I'm feeling slightly better today.

I don't know why, but this last 2-3 years I began writing things down about my life. My parents, experiences, things I said, things I did and it led me to writing a full summary of my entire life. I carry journals around with me and note everything that I do and suddenly, I began having insights about me that I had missed. I started understanding things about me that I had missed.

Suddenly, small things I had said or done, while on their own didn't mean much, when put together, painted a damning picture. I started figuring things out about my behaviour and why I an the way I am.

The sad part - I might have to accept that I have a certain level in life that I can reach, and with my capabilities, I might not reach very high.

Has anybody else reached a point like this?

I'm a male, and I don't have children. Because of my flaws and on ocassion, incompetence, I don't want to pass those particular flaws to my children.

I just wish I was a smarter and more comptent person. I try to improve myself and become more competent, but it seems my capabilities won't allow this to happen. I have feared I would be getting sacked from work because of it. That's what worried me last week.

It would be nice to hear off people! Makes me feel better...

Thank you!

Lee.

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Fettuccinecarbonara · 05/11/2018 22:37

Your take on life sounds very sad, if you don’t mind me saying.

I truly believe that everyone, without exception, has the ability to be, and to do, whatever they want. Some just need to work harder than others.

Life is hard. Everyone makes mistakes. Making a note of them, and going back over them in detail will just make you feel shit! Yes it’s good to reflect, and to recognise how you can do things better, but give yourself a break!!! Look to the future. Find the fun, the joy, the zest for life!

What happens if you meet someone who wants children? Will you refuse in case they turn out like you?! Could you not teach and guide them a better way to be? Maybe they’ll take after their Mum!

Don’t ruin your life before it’s begun! You are amazing. Feel that way.

goldinthemtherestars · 06/11/2018 15:11

Hello Lee.

We all continue to grow, and some have more insight about it than others. I think you are going through a phase of rapid personal growth at the moment, and along with it you are gaining insight at a faster pace than feels comfortable. This is not unusual, and sometimes triggers major life changes, sudden awareness of who we are, our perceived limitations and where we might best be headed.

It can be sobering, taking our heads out of the sand about ourselves. It often heralds the uncomfortable realisation that we don't quite fit our long-held view of ourselves. It is called growing up, and sometimes takes decades. Eventually though we do usually come to terms with the reality of who we are no longer influenced by other's judgements (which are all a reflection of them, not us) and that insight, when it comes and when we are over the adjustment period, is very freeing. (Those that don't might be called sociopaths or narcissists or fit into some other box determined by psychiatrists or psychologists or the media who don't take into account the vast and all normal range of human personalities).

Re the learning. You are not thick. You show great insight and a refreshing honesty. You are on a journey to self-awareness that will enrich your life. Lots of people (like another poster said) learn through doing - my H for one. He won't read or watch or listen, he just gets on and does, and that works best for him. He's brilliant at practical things and as a musician (self-taught, through playing) yet was written off at school. His brilliance at practical things could make someone else whose strength might be IT, for example, look incompetent. Me, things told to me are in one ear and out the other. I am short-sighted and through all the years spent at the back of the class looking out at a blurred scene with some general babbling going on around me, I learnt nothing. As an adult I discovered late that I learn by seeing - reading and writing and doing.

Your current re-running of your early life and examining all the tiny details that went wrong could possibly be a sign that you are depressed. I think whether you are depressed or not it is a sign of growth.

Questions to ask yourself. What do you enjoy doing? What are you good at? I would say writing, for a start. The fact you are writing in a journal and are having sudden insights is a great sign. Keeping a journal is frequently recommended to help with depression and is also the way many writers start.

I think you are being very hard on yourself. You sound like a nice man to me, on the start of an important journey full of uncertainty but ultimately worth every challenging step. You are showing great insight. You have a university degree (a huge achievement). You have a job.

Sometimes our problems can be as simple as trying to be a square peg in a round hole. Society or our upbringing keep trying to squeeze us into somewhere that is just plain wrong for us. Find out what you like, where you fit. Where your strengths lie. Find your people, your Lee-shaped world. It is out there, Lee. Maybe try volunteering in something that interests you. There are so many openings for everything from hedge-laying to soup kitchens to riding for the disabled. Volunteering might help build your confidence, and through helping other people you may find it helps you. You will certainly meet a wide variety of people from all walks of life.

I do think it might be helpful to talk things over with someone. Does your job have access to counselling? Many do, and it is always confidential. Or you could try your GP surgery.

I seem to have wittered on a bit. Your post must have struck a chord. Good luck.

LeeMills · 11/11/2018 19:04

Hello people ,

I got the idea to write about my life from The Gulag Archipelago. It was a comment from Dr Boris Nikolyevich Kornfeld the night before he was killed. It was about examining one's life with minute detail. I thought '"What a great idea." And so I did it.

I might have become a bit obsessed with it because I’m trying to recall all the jobs I’ve worked at; my work colleagues from the past; previous relationships; all the people I knew from social events and old friends. There are so many events that spark an emotional reaction to it, so I’ve obviously not dealt with it. I’ve become a rather all-encompassing project of mine and it is taking up a lot of my time.

I think this has set off some kind of depression because I’ve remembered all the times I said the wrong thing; did the wrong thing and thinking I was in the right, when in fact, I was in the wrong and didn’t know it. It can be hard to accept that I was in the wrong and others were right. But, I’m working my way through it and trying to accept what happened and become a much better person.

Goldinthemtherestars - it’s funny you mention writing - I’m trying to write a novel based in Ancient Rome. I have a cavalry officer in Caesar’s army in Gaul and he plays a pivotal role at the time. I’m trying to write some of the tragedies of life into and a lot of what happened to me also. It’s going to be tough, but I would like to leave something behind before I die (hopefully many more decades away yet).

I don’t think I won’t be having children because my girlfriend of 5 years doesn’t want them either. She thinks we are here to serve others. She might be right, because she’s highly intuitive.

I was hoping that my post struck a chord with others - I was sure I wasn’t the only one who thought like this and felt like this.

Lee.

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