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I posted this in mental health, but really need someone to read and reply now. Can feel myself getting worse by the hour and feeling very alone.

I feel like there is no hope left for me. I have exhausted all options in the NHS. Tried nearly 10 types of meds and none of them did anything. Psychiatrist agrees that there's no medication likely to work now. Been turned down for any therapy due to inability to talk properly about my issues. Tried private therapy for a while but had the same problem. Wanted to do emdr but told I don't fit the criteria because I don't have a good enough support network. Which I don't. No family support, no partner, live alone, lots of friendship issues. I have tried really hard to be open to different things but nothing has worked. I used to be well supported by friends but even they've had enough of me. I've had enough of me. There really is nothing left is there?

Link fail NAPAC

Yes thank you, I've seen that website before.

Should I move this thread over to MH? I don't really know how this all works

Hugs OP. I'm sorry you are feeling so low.

I came across a good book this week. It's called '8 keys for overcoming trauma' by Babette Rothschild.

I found it very clear and readable and put you in charge of your recovery.

Thank you. I'll look it up

We're just sending this over to our MH topic.

Sending strength.

Welcome to MH OP

How are you doing this morning?

Not good. Nothing is any different. Wonder how I'm supposed to know when enough is enough

Enough is enough, as in, when does it get to the point that you take steps to end your life?

I don't think there's an answer to that, it'd be different for all of us.

What do you want to be different?

Yes that's all that seems to be left at this point. Just wish I was brave enough to go through with it. I think there will be a point where the fear will be outweighed by everything else. There has to be because this isn't sustainable.

The current situation doesn't sound sustainable, no. Not being here is one way it could end. How else could 'everything else' change so the situation becomes toleable? Even if hypothetically?

I wish I knew

Ask to have an assessment with a psychiatrist, get them to confirm you diagnosis and say you need treatment and ask them to confirm in a letter to your GP the options available.

EMDR is unlikely to be used unless you are resilient and stable for a long period beforehand.

Probably feels like been there, done that hey OP

All you can do right now is focus on getting through today. Or even the next hour. Just one thing at a time. Keep reaching out, keep talking - to us, your Mum, Samaritans, the GP, whoever. Are you able to explain to your GP the depth of your feeling as you have here? You're not under a psychiatrist at the moment?

Personally I have also found a support group to have been surprisingly very helpful. Well, I've been twice but it's somewhat of a revelation to meet other people with my diagnosis in real life in a safe supportive confidential setting. I know NAPAC support groups are closed at the moment but there might be other suitable support groups near you, have you tried anything like that?

I've had an assessment with the psychiatrist and they're the one who gave me the diagnosis. They recommended emdr or trauma based cbt but those are the things which were then rejected when I met with the therapist/psychologist. My GP has written several letters in the past month or so to say things are declining but we haven't heard anything back yet.

I've been trying to look for a support group but there's nothing local to me which is accepting new people

How bloody frustrating. You are doing all the right things, you should feel some kind of sense of achievement for that. I totally get the feeling when you are trying so hard yet it isn't getting better. It's awful. And all you can do is keep on keeping on.

Did the psychiatrist suggest a medication plan and backup for if it wasn't working or timetable for review?

It really is so frustrating. Everyone says mental health is no different to physical health but I can't imagine someone with a life threatening physical health issue would be left like this. And it really does feel life threatening.

The psychiatrist only said she didn't think medication was going to work for me when I said the last lot wasn't doing anything, and neither had any of the others. She said there wasn't anything else left to prescribe which was different enough to what I had already tried

You need to go back to the psychiatrist and explain that you have not been accepted onto those treatment options and ask for another option.
There are specialist trauma services dotted around the country that can offer other options.

If it feels life threatening you need to think about your safety and calling the Crisis team tonight.

Sometimes when local services aren't appropriate for someone, you can apply for funding to access an out-of-area specialist service. I don't know whether an organisation like NAPAC or Mind could help advocate for you for that. I'd agree with requesting re-referral for review with the psychiatrist; their recommendations haven't panned out and the situation has changed (things are deteriorating) so a review is in order. Or is that what you meant that the GP has written letters?

Yes that's what the GP is chasing for

Have you thought of therapy using symbolic modelling? There are specialist therapists who work with people who can't talk about trauma. Penny Tompkinson and James Lawley are the leaders in this field in this country.

Oh right. See you really are doing everything right!

Ok one last thing then I'll stop being that 'helpful' person offering useless advice. Have you tried ASSIST? I just found the link on the Mind PTSD pages and don't know if they'd have any services suitable/accessible for you.

Thank you both, I've just had a quick look at both of those things. Assist is no where near me geographically but maybe they will be able to direct me somewhere nearer.

I do really appreciate you trying to be 'that helpful person' anxiousmunchkin. Sorry I know I'm rejecting lots of people's ideas

It's ok I know what's it's like with people constantly asking "have you tried this?" and your inner monologue is in sarcasm overload "oh my goodness! So THAT'S what I should do, silly me!". Sometimes I think we just need to call a turd a turd and agree that it's shit . Not that you're a turd just to be very clear, that the situation is a turd! And it's very very not fair at all!

Yes I think you've captured it pretty perfectly there!

Hi, things sound really tough. I'm recovering from PTSD I didn't have much sucess with my psychologist so I had something called Eye Movement Integration privately with an nlp ( neurolinguistic programming ) therapist. (Similar to EMDR ) it was amazing and just the 1 session (£60) was enough to resolve all my symptoms (non complex PTSD). I've done some nlp courses and I can honestly say, its changed my life for the better. Theres some online courses available at www.nlpinthenorthwest.co.uk