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Suicidal but sane?

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Owlzes · 20/02/2017 11:04

I know you guys aren't doctors, but I know there are some smart people here and people who have worked with psychiatric services and I’m trying to work out if something is normal.
So, I’m diagnosed bipolar, and on medication (lamotrigine and aripiprazole) and have a history of hospitalization, but have been stable for the last 3-4 years. Used to be diagnosed as type one, now type two (because I’ve not had a manic episode in a number of years). I’m on medication and apparently stable. I’ve been going through some stuff lately (parents in law hitting end of life stage, work stress, wedding planning stress, money stress) and it’s felt like it’s getting to me so my fiancé kicked me into talking to my CPN today.

I went in and explained that I’d not been sleeping properly lately, that since Thursday I’d been tearful most days, and that on Thursday and Sunday I’d been actively suicidal and making plans to die, including one day on which I acquired the method I was thinking of using (it was an inept plan, in retrospect, but that isn’t the point). I said I felt exhausted and drained and I just wanted to be dead so I could rest, and I felt so very alone. I also said I’d self-harmed for the first time in four years. I also showed her my mood tracker in my diary and how many days I was on a 1 or 2 (I track my moods from 1-10, with 1 being suicidal and 10 being ecstatic).

She said “well, that’s normal. You’ve got a lot on. You should try more exercise” and “what’s the point of that mood tracker? How can you track your own moods? You won’t be objective” and pretty much sent me on my way, with this vague sense that I was being whingy and a bit melodramatic. She didn't make another appointment to see me either, so apparently I'm not seeing her again unless I chase, although I'm still seeing my pdoc every four months. I don’t know if maybe I was just coming across as stable (I was freshly showered, with make up and nice work clothes) or it was the very neatly set up bullet journal with stickers and notes, and maybe that does mean I’m OK – her normal line is that if I think I might be unwell, I’m not. But it feels a bit too me as if I’m caught in a catch 22, as either way (either I’m too mad to know I need help, or if I know I need help, I’m not mad enough to get it) I get no support.

She’s done this before – in August I had a bit of a wobble where I decided that I was getting messages from Disney songs and just needed to run until I turned into sky – where she said if I could recognize those were odd thoughts then I wasn’t actually unwell – and I’m beginning to wonder if she thinks there is anything wrong with me. Which is OK, if there is nothing wrong with me, but surely none of this is totally normal? Or is it? Am I just being melodramatic?

And if it’s not normal, who am I meant to talk to? What am I meant to do? Is there any kind of alternative support structure away from a CPN that isn’t ‘whinging to my friends’? Or should I just get on with it (not the suicide, the gluing myself back together)?

Any advice very gratefully received.

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Owlzes · 22/02/2017 15:10

List of things to say to the GP:

  • I'm struggling with the CMHT. Is there anything my GP surgery can do?
  • Is there any chance of some sleeping pills to regulate my sleeping more?
  • Can we come up with some kind of crisis plan if my mood keeps getting worse?
  • Is it possible for me to maybe be signed off for part time work for a few weeks?

I'm thinking about asking if my mood stabilizers can also be increased perhaps?

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dangermouseisace · 22/02/2017 16:47

I can't believe how your CPN has been (though I do believe you obviously!). It's not very professional.

The bit where I realise my thinking is off is usually the last step before the abyss...the point where you realise something has to change before it's too late- and your CPN has done fuck all.

GP can harangue the mental health team at least- it's difficult to argue if your brain is full of muddy depression. I hope your GP is helpful owles. And asking for sleepers sounds like a good idea.

Iris65 · 22/02/2017 20:00

Asking for a mood swing! 😂 I never get manic, just agitated depression rather than depression on its own. TBH I'd rather be depressed than agitated - but mania could be fun??!! 😉🎉🎉🎉
Hope you got on OK with GP. Your list looks really useful.

NolongerAnxiousCarer · 22/02/2017 20:57

Hope it went well with the GP, the list looks good.

Owlzes · 23/02/2017 11:10

Iris65 - I get the agitated depression too, but I've had hypomanic and manic episodes. They're quite fun. Well, for me anyway. I don't think DP likes them so much. Confused

GP was actually amazing. He listened to me and then promptly dispatched me in a taxi to talk to the crisis team because he was worried. I've now been signed off for a week and put on sleeping pills to try and reset my brain. I still feel wobbly, but so much better for feeling listened to. I don't feel like quite so much of a waste of space and like there might be a light at the end of the tunnel.

I just have to keep trucking.

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AnxiousMunchkin · 23/02/2017 11:58

Keep on keeping on Owlzes, glad to hear that your GP was helpful. You have a week to do nothing but rest and look after yourself. Do you have any plans now for the rest of the day? Do you have another appointment to follow up with GP or anyone else soon?

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Iris65 · 23/02/2017 15:24

Really pleased that your GP listened to you and that you're getting some support.
As you say keep on truckin' 🚚🚚🏋️‍♀️🏋️‍♀️👍

NolongerAnxiousCarer · 23/02/2017 19:27

So glad your GP is listening, hopefully he will give your CPN a kick up the backside too.

Misty9 · 26/02/2017 19:07

How are you feeling owlzes ? Hope things have been okay.

Misty9 · 26/02/2017 19:09

Oh and I'm off sick this week too - what are your plans? I'm developing an unhealthy daytime TV schedule... Grin

Owlzes · 27/02/2017 12:51

Actually, feeling much better today. Had a really helpful talk with boss at work who has told me to not worry and take all the time I need.

I'm building up to cooking as I know that often makes me feel better - chopping and weighing, and measuring and getting something tasty at the end. Also watching my way though the People vs OJ Simpson with some horror.

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Owlzes · 27/02/2017 12:53

Oh and I may have a new CPN. Waiting on the nursing TL to call me back. Still really tired and run down but I am on my feet and that is such a big start.

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NolongerAnxiousCarer · 27/02/2017 19:18

Sounds like there are some positives, fingers crossed for a new more effective CPN. Glad things are a little beter.

Owlzes · 01/03/2017 08:53

GP this morning. Yesterday was a bad day. Barely made it out of bed. Sort of dreading talking to him.

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Misty9 · 01/03/2017 14:58

How did it go with the gp? Hope it was helpful. It sounds like your work are supportive so don't be afraid to take more time off than you'd like. It's better to take longer than go back too soon and overflow again soon after. I'm back at work next week... but partly because being off sick with small children at home isn't exactly a rest!

Baby steps and sometimes we need to listen to our bodies and stay in bed all day Flowers

Owlzes · 01/03/2017 15:03

GP was nice today. Signed off for another week. He suggests we discuss going back part time at my appointment next week but maybe not immediately.

So slowly trying to get there.

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NolongerAnxiousCarer · 01/03/2017 20:32

Take the time you need, a phased return or reduced hours when you do go back. I'm on reduced hours and duties at the moment and its definately been the right thing to do.

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