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Contemplating suicide

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BengalTiger · 11/05/2013 02:44

I know this site is for parents, and i'm nothing close to a parent (I'm 16) but I'm in a situation that very much involves the subject of parenting. So I thought with this being a site for parents, maybe I can get some insight.

I'm a lad and I don't know how to tell my mum that I'm constantly fantasising about suicide. My relationship with my mum is pretty complex. I'm biracial (she's white and my dad was black) and my parents split up when I was 6. Well my mum ran off to say the truth. My dad raised me but he died in January.

After not hearing from my mum for 8 years, she finally got in contact with me and my dad when I was 14. He didn't want anything to do with her but he said she was my mother and I should hear her out. I did. She was married and really wealthy. I wouldn't say I and my dad lived in poverty but we never had all that much either. It's weird cause I've never been angry at my mother for leaving me and my dad. She said she was really sorry for everything and I forgave her.

In the last 2 years we saw each other and went out and that. My dad died from a heart attack so now I live with my mum and her husband. In the last 3 months I've been overwhelmed with thoughts of suicide. My mum has been wonderful to me but unlike with my dad, I can't talk to her about really personal things.

And the truth is that ever since I was really young I've always been a self-loathing person. I don't know why. I just am. I don't have friends really. I prefer to stay on my own (somthing my mum doesn't understand) and most of the times I daydream, pretending that I'm a different person.

I just don't know how to tell her all of this stuff. I find it difficult to open up to anyone. I could only tell my dad about the most personal things in my life. Now that he's gone and I don't have anyone to tell.

I've been looking up suicide methods online and I'm constantly thinking about my death. I have some rope that I intend to hang myself with. But last night I came across a story about a mother who lost her son to suicide and I cried cause the whole thing basically destroyed her.

I don't really want to put my mum through that, but then again, life at the moment feels like hell. Waking up in the morning is terrible - the only respite I get is when I sleep. When there's nothing for me to think about. And that's why death is so alluring.

i don't know what to do.

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BengalTiger · 24/07/2013 21:58

mum doesnt know

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mummylin2495 · 24/07/2013 22:05

Oh bt please tell her, you can't go through this on your own. Or if you can't tell your mum is there anyone else you can tell ? Please don't try and cope alone and don't shut your mum out. I can't tell you how relieved I am to see you and I want you to be on this thread for a long long time, but eventually on a different thread when you start one happy to be alive is there anything any of us can do for you. Would you like a phone no so you can text or anything ?
I feel completely inadequate to help you

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Caster8 · 24/07/2013 22:07

Do you have aunties, uncles, grandparents?

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cjel · 24/07/2013 22:13

Hello BT lovely to hear from you, Please understand what mummylin said the reason that you didn't succeed in suicide is that it isn't your time to go yet. Please tell all this to your counsellor as it will help to be able to get your thoughts out and then it will start to make sense to you.x
What have you been doing this week?

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BengalTiger · 24/07/2013 22:25

lin - I don't want my mum to know. i dealt with stuff myself when she was away and i'll deal with it now.

caster - none.

cjel - nothing really. just been alone.

in all honesty i dont really know why im posting on here. My old science teacher once told us that you can only help those that want to be helped, and i dont think i wanna be helped. And I really appreciate the amount of people who've been so supportive of me on this site. You're an incredible bunch of people. But I feel drained. My body is just like a heap of flesh. No desire for life whatsoever and no motivation to try anymore.

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mummylin2495 · 24/07/2013 22:32

Why don't you want your mum to know ? Because you don't want to hurt her or other reasons ? You will destroy her if you carry out your plan.you say you will deal with it, but your in deep despair and cannot see a way out you need help from someone and fast.can you speak to someone at Samaritans, I think you did before.

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cjel · 24/07/2013 22:35

that feeling is depression, it passes, it ends you recover. remember i said about judging when it was good to tuck in and refresh and when it was leading down to depression? i think you misjudged the amount of tuck in time you needed this week. You have been this low before and lifted again and you will do it again. I also don't think your science teacher is strictly correct, at the time you start to help people they may feel they don't want help but as you help them anyway they come to realise that they did all along.
that sentance to lin about dealing with stuff when she was away sounded a bit angry - do you have anger towards your mum for the past?
Another thing i thought of earlier was did you ever listen to David Bowie Rock'n'roll suicide? I'd love to know what you think of it!!

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mummylin2495 · 24/07/2013 22:37

Please don't stop posting on here, at least you are in touch with others, not just alone.

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mummylin2495 · 24/07/2013 23:02

Hopefully you are now going to sleep so I will sign off now.i hope sleep won't elude you tonight . Chat soon. Take care x

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Caster8 · 24/07/2013 23:08

Your old science teacher is partly right, and partly wrong.

Depression is a different illness to others.
With depression, as you know, and are unfortuneately experiencing, it has different levels.
And a lot of people, have it sometimes in there lives, but no sign of it at other times, often years, or even a lifetime.

You have dreams. You have talked about them on here.
There is nothing to think that at some point in your life you will not get to live them.
As others have said on here, there are different chapters in peoples' lives.

Right now, you are grieving, apart from everything else. But primarily grieving. It has only been six months since the death of your dad. Sad. That is not a long time in the griving process unfortunately.
I know a lot of older people. And even older people struggle with a sudden death. Those that lose loved ones suddenly, take longer in the grieving process, than those whose loved ones have been ill for some time.
There is a bereavement section on MN. I am not sure if that would help you to have a look over there. It might do.

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cjel · 24/07/2013 23:15

going to have to go to bed now as still suffering from my overheating at the weekend. Look forward to hearing your critique of 'rock'n'roll suicide tomorrow'

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Sijeunessesavait · 24/07/2013 23:16

Hi BT, I''ve followed your thread from the first post, and am de-lurking to add my voice to others who are encouraging you to talk to your mum. Remember how that helped in the very early days of posting here? You didn't expect it to, but it really did make a difference, and it will do again. If you can't say it in words, use some of your amazing writing to let her know how you're feeling and to ask for help. We so want things to get better for you, and know that they can if you reach out to the person who is closest to you. Please do.
xx

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Homebird8 · 25/07/2013 02:24

Hello BengalTiger. I can hear your anger too. Have you talked about your feelings of abandonment and anger with your counsellor? Perhaps you'd find it useful to say all those things to someone. Not telling your mum how you're feeling could be a way of protecting her. Even at 16 you are still not responsible for protecting an adult in this way. You are not her parent, she is yours. Don't protect her from how you are feeling. She won't feel protected if you end your life. You don't sound as if you want to give yourself the chance you deserve. Give her the one she deserves, the chance to love you.

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cjel · 25/07/2013 09:29

morning BT Hows your bunch of flesh this morning? My head still feels heavy and I've only just woke up which is amazing for me I'm usually a 6.30 till 7.30 person!!!

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mummylin2495 · 25/07/2013 10:15

Good morning BT did you finally manage to get some much needed sleep? It is horrible when you feel so tired but just can't drop off.
So have you thought about where you can go for some help or to who.? Please give more thought about telling your mum, why won't you tell her ?to give her the chance to help you. Sorry if you think I am keeping on about it,but concerned for you

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JulieMumsnet · 25/07/2013 13:12

Hi, BengalTiger.

You're getting a lot of support and good advice on here. There are lots of places where you can go for support, your GP or there's a phone line for advice from a charity called youngminds here. You're not alone through this.

All the best,

MNHQ.

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JulieMumsnet · 25/07/2013 13:30

There's also lots of support here, there's also the samaritans who will listen.

Thanks to all those who are offering such wonderful support to Bengal Tiger on this thread. It is our policy in situations like this, though, to repeat our advice to all posters on MN that it's wise never to give more yourself, emotionally, than you can afford to lose.

We wish you all well.

MNHQ.

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Openyourheart · 25/07/2013 14:28

BT - I'm so sorry that you feel this way. You clearly do want to be helped, otherwise you would not have come on here. Please hold on to that thought. I am alarmed that your healthcare provider is missing something. You are a danger to yourself and you need to be admitted to hospital. Why have your doctors not realised this? Please tell them and you will get appropriate treatment.
Best wishes.

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Openyourheart · 25/07/2013 14:33

Also, 30 pills is an awful lot. You must have been very, very ill after taking them. How did your mum feel about that? She must have been very upset. I hope she is organising proper care for you.

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mummylin2495 · 25/07/2013 15:05

You see BT so many of us are willing you to get help so you can recover.you are ill and need to reach out and get urgent medical advice.Please take our advice and either go to A&E tell your mum or phone your doc. Have a look at the advice that MNHQ has left for you.

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Apileofballyhoo · 25/07/2013 15:36

Hi BengalTiger

I've read this whole thread and hope you are ok today. I've suffered from terrible depression and I know what it's like to go through each day fighting it and how exhausting that is. You will come out the other side. You are doing really really well. I will pray for you and I will be thinking of you.

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BengalTiger · 25/07/2013 22:00

i rang the samaritans earlier. didn't help change the way i feel.

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mummylin2495 · 25/07/2013 22:04

Well done BT for at least ringing them. Proves you are willing to get help. ! Look at the places MNHQ have recommended and see if you could try one of the alternative places. Are. You still feeling so down as yesterday ?

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cjel · 25/07/2013 22:07

I've just posted on here but it doesn't seem to have appeared, but we would have cross posted any way.
I'm really sad to hear that you are still struggling. Have you thought of going back to your gp to adjust or change your medication?
There will be something they can give you that will help.
Can you pinpoint anything that changed from when you had started to feel a bit brighter, when you had your girlfriend and you could engage in conversation on here?
YOu don't have to say on here but it may help you to think back to that week when you had hope of wellness?

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BengalTiger · 25/07/2013 22:08

Yeah, I'm pretty much the way I was yesterday. I feel so angry. Today my PS3 was playing up so I took a cricket bat and smashed it into pieces. It's weird cause I'm calm 99% of the time but one of those people who when I get angry I completely lose it.

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