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Over everythinger!

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bettyblueshoes · 20/08/2012 17:02

Hi there,

Some advice would be welcome. I have a problem - well a few actually. I overindulge.

I am an emotional overeater
I am an over spender
I drink too much
I smoke too much.

I feel so out of control of my life. It's probably got a lot to do with my lifestyle. I am what you call a 'trailing spouse'. We are professional expats, and through DH's job we have lived all over the world for the last 14 years (i'm 36 btw). We have 2 DCs. The thing is my life is based entirely on his job. I could say that all my problems are down to this, but to be honest, these issues have been around since before him.

We live in a non English speaking country. I cant get counseling. I was hoping that one of you lovely ladies could recommend a book or something that could help me to regain the control I have lost (or indeed have never had). I would love to use the strength that allows me to continue these habits to help me stand up to them - if that makes any sense. I'm sure there is a way to describe the way I am, would love to know what that is so that I could go someway to being in control.

I think it pertinent that I also let you know that I am on ADs - citalopram (20mg). This is due to what (I think) is a genetic depressive disorder. I got prescribed these by my doctor about 2 years ago.

Thanks for any advice you can give
Bettyx

OP posts:
amillionyears · 20/08/2012 20:21

Would you say you are in control of other aspects of your life?
Do you do most of the above because you are bored/fed up with husband/lonely?

NanaNina · 20/08/2012 21:09

Sorry can't recommend a book. It sounds like you have an addictive personality and I think it's more common than people realise but maybe have 1 or 2 of your list, but 4 is a bit off the scale!

We usually indulge in these things when we feel there is something missing in our life, and we are compensating for that (though not at a conscious level of course) and it sounds like you have been doing this for most of your adult life. What sort of childhood did you have, as the adults we become are in many ways related to the experiences we had as children, so maybe you can look back on that to see if it provides any clues. Did you feel there was something missing in your childhood, that there wasn't "enough" of anything, maybe food, maybe love I don't know, but you will know. You would need the help of a good therapist to help you unravel this because we so often forget childhood and it is the most important factor in the adults we become. I wonder why you can't get therapy - is this because of the language barrier?

On a more practical level I think you need to tackle them one at a time and you can only do this if your are motivated as otherwise you won't do it. Maybe choose the one to which you are last addicted. Smoking is probably the worst one healthwise but is also going to be difficult as addiction to nicotine is very under estimated in my view, and so very hard to stop. Drinking too much is not good healthwise either. How about the over spending - were you deprived in childhood of material things that youwanted and didn't have. I think you need to look beneath the surface and try to find the reasons for your over indulgence and maybe that will help I don't know.

Does any of this ring any bells for you.........

Showtime · 21/08/2012 15:34

If you'd like help with overeating or overdrinking, there are Twelve Step programmes for both around the world, AA being the best-known and with some local groups using English. It's where I'd start for getting life in order/making changes and probably available online too. Good luck.

Salbertina · 21/08/2012 17:40

Just a thought but u cd post on living overseas as a few of us are trailing spouses and can relate to unusual circs/challenges

bettyblueshoes · 22/08/2012 16:15

Hi
Sorry for the late response - I've been giving thought to your answers.

amillionyears: this was the most difficult question for me to face up to. No, I'm not really in control. I am disorganized, and find it easier to put things off, go to the gym, meet friends for lunch rather than get organised at home. I go through periods of being super organized: preparing dinners in advance, baking, giving the kids plenty of quality time doing arts and crafts. I control my diet etc., and everything feels as if it should be, then BANG. I lose the control and head in a downward spiral. Everything is all over the place, and I'm months before I can sort it out again. Granted, as I get older (and probably with the help of the AD's), the periods between these times are growing less.

Nananina: I KNOW my habits are off the scale, but maybe not as bad as I have made out. I'll list each and explain as I go:

  1. Emotional overeater: This is probably my biggest problem. As I become increasingly aware of it, I see how bad the problem is. The other day, I was putting the children down (DH was at work). The house was a mess, the dinner dishes hadnt been put away, I had been out all day entertaining them and I wanted to get it all tidied before I went to bed. Anyway, the kids wouldnt go down, and were giving me a lot of grief. In the end, after 2 hours, I left the room in anger and frustration, and the first thing I did was run into the kitchen and shove a cupcake in my mouth (before I lit a fag, or reached for the wine!). I heard a noise and turned round to see my daughter standing there. It was that 'scene' that shocked me and made me realise more than ever what a problem it is.

  2. Overspending: This is a problem that I inherited from my father. He LOVED to go shopping. He worked abroad and when he came home, he would take me out on a big shopping trip just him and I. As I grew older, he would use the shopping trips to apologise for any misdemeanors: a couple of DV episodes with my mother, a few times he went for me for minor reasons. My dad was an alcoholic, and obviously bipolar (although neither were ever diagnosed as far as I know). I say WAS because he dropped dead of a heart attack when I was 15 in the middle of my GCSEs. This is something that took me over 15 years to get over, and now, I think back to my childhood, and dont really feel anything more than intense dislike for him.

I went to a private school, and the thing I always remember, in particular, was going into town with the girls from school. They always had money for Big Mac meals, whereas I would only have enough to buy a hamburger meal. It is something that has always stayed with me. I guess I felt inferior for this reason, and they probably came from wealthier families than mine - which was a problem at the time. Nowadays, my spending is better that it ever has been, but I can go a month or so without buying STUFF, then it's like I self implode and I have to go and get something - no matter how big or small. Afterwards, I come out of the shop and have a cigarette to help calm the rush. It's awful! I spend almost £400/week on family outgoings (household, activities, lunches etc.,) which is WAY too much. We can afford it, but save little. Imagine the amount of money we could save if I could live on under a £100/week like many people do. I dont NEED to spend this amount (Also note that the country I live in is very expensive compared to the UK, so you are going to spend maybe 30% more). I've tried shopping lists, going to cheaper supermarkets, cutting down on eating out and I still can't seem to get it down Sad

3)Overdrinking: I certainly think that this has more to do with boredom than anything. I try not to drink during the week, but if there is booze in the fridge, then I WILL drink it, so I just dont buy it in. I would say, that I drink about 3 bottles of wine through out the course of a week(end), maybe 2. That seems quite bad, just looking at it. I DO like a drink - but HATE getting drunk, and I dont touch spirits....

  1. Smoking: It is so unpc that I tend not to smoke during the day, so when I say I over smoke, what I really mean is that I SMOKE. I go through a pack of 20 about every 3 days. I dont know if this is excessive (I dont think so), but I do think that its bad enough that I smoke, no matter how much.

So Nananina, you have given me A LOT of food for thought (boom boom). And yes, I cant get help purely because of the language barrier. There may be people in the expat community here, but it is a VERY small community with lots of gossip - not really viable.

Showtime: I will have a look, thank you.

Salbertina: I'll come on over when I have some free time later in the week.

Thanks to all those who responded! Great practical ideas.

Bettyx

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shaky · 23/08/2012 14:57

A counsellor recommended, "cognitive behavioural therapy for dummies" it is an excellent book, you can get it off eBay or amazon. Hope it helps

NanaNina · 23/08/2012 20:18

Hmm I think the views on MN for CBT are very mixed. I know it has helped a lot of people but not others, and certainly wasn't very helpful for me. I think it's good for some mental health issues and it does attempt to show us how to stop the negative thoughts spiralling out of control amongst other things. I only know the basics so maybe I shouldn't be commenting really.

However I think the OPs issues are very much related to her childhood experiences (which most of our issues in adult life are an echo of what kind of parenting we had as children) and this needs a therapy that will delve into the background of someone and help them to see how the issues of the past are still affecting them today.

Agree though no harm in getting the book and you may be one of the people who find it helpful. I did wonder why it had to be "for dummies" though - when we are mentally ill (especially in depression) we have a low enough view of ourselves, without needing a book "for dummies" or maybe that's just me!

bettyblueshoes · 24/08/2012 04:44

I dont mind the for dummies bit. Any help is help at all. I think that I have reached an important point in seeing my problems however long it has taken me to get here! I realise I need therapy, and I WILL get it when I am able to. I cant believe how many of the boxes I tick for addictive personality - sounds stupid now, but its been great and an eye opener to come on here and see that.

Thank you for your help and suggestions
Betty
x

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MrsShrek3 · 24/08/2012 04:55

I has a book called "the power is within you" - basically about making changes in you life and sticking to them.
Fwiw go in tiny bite sized bits (scuse pun) and only tackle one manageable thing at once, over weeks/ months. Don't move to the next til you have this one firmly in your grip. (sounds obvious but not always so when you're in the midst of wanting everything to be better, and quick!)
Good on you for identifying all the difficulties. Takes courage (x lots). Now believe in yourself to take apart the big ishoos and decide what you want to do. I've no idea if there are huge past issues underlying this, but if you want things to be different and ultimately to feel more in control (which is how it sounds to me, dunno if I'm right) then have a go a day at a time. Believe in yourself Smile

MrsShrek3 · 24/08/2012 04:56

I has ?Grin I HAD, obv. Think the author is Louise hay. A wee bit ott in parts but like anything you take the useful bits and leave the mad far-out stuff.

cupcake78 · 24/08/2012 06:31

Have you looked into Skype counselling? It is available. Counselling directories web page should be able to help find someone.

You can very definatley get over this but will need some prof help IMO.

There are many types of counselling CBT is only one of them, all of them can be effective!

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