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Struggling with Depression.......

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Redline · 13/06/2012 03:42

Hi I'm a man posting on here partly as I'm a parent, partly as I'm lost & don't know Where to go or WHAT to do other than Talk through it & partly as there's a LOT of women here & being empathetic/sympathetic & FAR more understanding of such issues than men? I might actually get some help or advice I can Use here instead of the usual abuse & jeering/ignorance I get when I confess such as what I'm about to say to my fellow men.

Anyway not my best couple of months since March but when Has it been lately & other than my beloved Reds (Liverpool FC - Hence my nickname before you ask) making me happy by reminiscing old (i.e. trophy collecting) Ways under our (now departed) King & England looking like the world's best cricket side once again?

Where to start? Depressed as fcuk & Have been for years on & off. Been much more On of late which is mainly why I'm writing here; I had a Huge operation that damn near killed me 7 years ago in 2005 (woke up under General Anaesthetic which I was informed by the then GP's - No-one Ever does normally but I did - Then it got worse as apparently I ripped out a feeding tube from my nose & lost 2 & a bit pints of blood then woke up in what seemed like Hell; Had to learn to walk, talk, eat & shave etc - Everything again). Anyway I made it back from the bottom of a Very Dark Well after spending a year & a half recovering but it completely fcuked my work prospects - I was doing a degree in Law just before that & passed it - Was looking for paralegal work at the time but was out for So long? My prospects of work whilst training for an LPC & training contract were practically eliminated & now? I've seen 7 women & men I used to go to Uni' with are now qualified solicitors which depresses me even more.

To cut a long story short? I became a different person from the once work seeking budding Solicitor I once Had been, depressed, introverted, stuck on painkillers (need them as the op' had my jaw broken in 2 places & steel plates put in which stopped the problem I had the op' for but which now leave me with headaches that feel like my heads split by an axe regularly & they're only one step down from morphine so often knock me out & leave me useless for days on end). I had my son & the above mentioned 6 year relationship with his mum but it All started to go wrong a couple of years ago after our boy was born (May 2009 - Problems began in March 2010). Now she's left & really she Had to because as I mentioned on another thread in these pages? The atmosphere between us & around the boy had become poisonous with bile & venom on both sides & really we Couldn't stay together anymore.

Anyhow now? I am sort of getting it together with another woman now whose a few years my senior but found out a few months back my ex' has got engaged & may be trying to change my boys name on the sly as well as by doing so killing stone dead all chances of the little lad's family getting back together & add to that my Grandad whose my boy's Great Grandad - he's Never seen & prob' never Will becoming Mortally ill & unable even to walk of late & me being stuck in limbo on painkillers of late & out of work for a Long time due to that & being immobilised when I should have been taking the final steps into my chosen career? & To say I've been Utterly depressed of late is putting it mildly - I've done my best to piece my life back together & avoid conclusions about the mess I've been in of late but a series of savage blows like those outlined above & how much they've upset me? Is an understatement; The ongoing Custody war with the ex' & her dirty tactics - insults, threats about alienating my boy from me, telling me to hurry up & die "as you should of done ages ago" (quote meant) etc & various death threats from her & her New OH & a total stitch up at court the other day where I saw my solicitor have rings run around him & realised that I could have done a better job on my own? Haven't helped matters either nor has certain members of my family implying the same if not saying it outright & continually having a go at me/doing me down/Totally destroying my confidence (little as it was before) over my state since the operation & it's aftermath - acting as though I'm like this & often unable to work due to being totally whacked out by said P/K's deliberately. Just a horrible devil's brew of a mixture of circumstances in short.

In short? A lot of what's gone on has really hurt of late & to say I've been depressed due to it all? Is as I said putting it mildly - I've tried to rebuild everything & hold it together as best I can for me & my boy but really? I've Never been the same since that op' in January 2005 & It got to me so much? I was looking for easy ways out the other week & felt lower than I have since before that operation in 2004 - had virtually had enough so I took some of my painkillers (12 of them; They're called Zapain & Codiene based with Paracetomol in them - Don't know if anyone's heard of them on here as they're quite rare unless prescribed or so I'm told), lined them up in front of me & would have taken them All & done God knows what damage but was dissuaded by a caring Lady I know on the phone who smacked me round the ear a few days later when we met up in town & reminded me (which she shouldn't have needed to do) that what I'd contemplated was both cowardly & depriving my boy of a Dad & I should never have considered it - I know better now fortunately & would never go Close to that again. But my depression & dark moods remain & have done for To long now. I'm a mess in short - I've been upset to myself & Very depressed over my ex' & boy not being here - Hating her alternately - Unsure of what will happen with her (possible) successor & above all? Lonely in a Huge 2 bedroom house with my boy only here 4 days out of every 10. Rest of the time? It's like a ghost house with So many memories in & I just Hate being there on my own but Can't move out as it's my boy's main home in my town when he comes now. I'm really lost & don't know What to do really bar this so hoping it gets me somewhere - ah well - I guess I'll see soon enough & one way or the other? Time will tell................

NB And before anyone says it? I Have to take those Painkillers & cannot stop right now; Mainly due to the fact that having had Loads wrong with me since childhood (asthma, hayfever etc) and lots of treatments/medications for those things? Zapain is one of the few things that Works on me & without it? I often get 'flashfire' headaches out of the blue that make me feel as though I've been smashed over the head with a bat & unable to function for Hours at a time. My life Is a horrible mess in short - I don't Want those things much now but I HAVE to take them to function even slightly normally. I Don't know What to do really....:(

NBB I wouldn't Normally write anything like this or my responses to it but I'm normally a Optimistic/Sunny(ish) individual who Normally gets it together & troops on no matter what - Usually for my boy since he was born - but This? Has gone on for months & months now (at least 6 or so now)? That I'm almost (not quite at my wits end) & have been So down of late without having got out of it as yet? That I felt few alternatives really so decided to write on here & see what happens - Fire away then Misses & Mr's - Here goes nothing............

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Redline · 13/06/2012 03:45

Sorry just meant to add? I don't see my son at ALL now as the witch I used to be with has stopped me seeing him entirely out of spite & with NO Legal reason or justification for doing so - so MUCH more depressed now than I was when I wrote that before which was something I posted once before elsewhere & forgot to update the middle of. Miss my boy & not SEEN him for 2 months now.............:( :( :(

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MrsMuddyPuddles · 13/06/2012 06:50

:( I'm terribly sorry to hear that you don't get to see your little boy, on top of the rest of it! You do have a lot to deal with!

What sort of help have you recieved toward your depression? Are you on any antidepressants yet, have you had councelling? You might also want to look into group therapy, my brother swears by it and someone else I know who had a tough time of it recently really benefited from it.

You mention what your aim in life was before this operation, you don't say whether you've explored what you can do with your degree given your current capacities. I'm "just" depressed, but already know that I shouldn't will probably return to work part-time rather than full time, and my ambitions and goals have lowered a bit away from "material success" type goals to "good work/life balance and quality of life" ones. Obviously your circumstances are different, and some may be temporary (?) but setting your sights towards what you can do as opposed to what you thought you wanted when you entered Uni might give you a direction to head towards.

Can you talk more about your painkillers? You mention unbearable pain for hours without them- are there any warning signs at all that this is coming up? What I'm wondering is, would it be possible to take these only when one of these flashfire headaches is coming on or has started (yes, it won't prevent it but maybe it would shorten the length of time in which you're in agony?), so the rest of the time you're more you? Is there any chance of re-operating to fix things? You have probably already explored these things, but thought I'd throw it out there, just in case!

Also, is it possible to separate the pain from the plates in your jaw from the discontinuation syndrome of the painkillers? (I'm in the middle of switching antidepressants, so have been acutely aware of the side effects of stopping a medication! And opiates are meant to be hell to come off of! Much worse than just ADs!)

I'm not going to be around much later today, but didn't want to read and run, and you sounded like you needed someone there for you :(

Redline · 14/06/2012 05:33

Thanks MrsMuddyPuddles - Only JUST seen your reply Miss? & I appreciate you BEING there for me despite not (& prob' NEVER) knowing me when so many others haven't been - Sad it's Got to this stage but there you go been So upset of late didn't know Where else to turn to & miss my boy So much.................Anyway VERY tired right now but will reply more in detail later & thanks again MissMuddy - Appreciate your help :P

Redline

NB My painkillers are called Zapain & are very VERY strong indeed - Only a level or two down from Morphine - Re' the pain/headaches I get? No there's NO warning though of late re' the Hell my dear witch sorry ex' is putting me through? It's become a more regular (& JUST as dreaded) hammering & thump, Thump, THUMP!!! in my head rather than the flashfire hammerblows or feeling like I've been hit by a bat & then receding as it did before - I get ringing in my ears & head pains all down the left side of my face now as well sometimes - Usually ALWAYS starting around the area just above my jaw where the two steel plates in my face From that op' are.

As to me having the hospital (re' my jaw) Re-operating? Prob' no chance as I will NOT go back to the mess I had with my jaw before - will explain later. And yes you guessed correctly Miss - I think the PK's ARE Opiates which worries me & they ARE hell to come off if me coming off my OLD Codiene ones was anything to go by. However right now? They're working to STOP the pain so will use them I guess & they're the ONLY thing that does but are SO strong? That I WON'T risk antidepressants on TOP of them & no the pain in my jaw won't be seperated & will ALWAYS need SOME sort of PK's I think.

Hope that little lot helps you a little re' the medical side Miss - WOULD write more but utterly knackered after yet ANOTHER night up missing my little son so will go & TRY to catch a few hours nap now. Night for now Miss & I'll write again soon. Keep Well MissMuddyPuddles......................

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timetoask · 14/06/2012 06:29

Oh Red, I am so sorry about this terrible time you are having. You desperately need some counselling, have you looked for that?
Regarding your son, yesterday on the radio they were talking precisely about this subject and one man who faught to see his children for years, whilst their mother tried to prevent it, now has the most amazing relationship with them (they are adults now) and his message was to never give up and that one day you will be able to regain that contact.
Do you have any other solicitor that can fight your corner for you? Don't let the ex get away with it, he is your son and you deserve to have contact with him as much as her.
This is a bad phase red, but it will pass, you sound strong, have gone through so much already. Sending you a big hug.

Redline · 28/06/2012 23:11

Thanks timetoask for your dear words Miss :P Means a lot to know SOMEone is listening to me? No I haven't thought of counselling in truth - Didn't THINK I'd need it but maybe I thought to soon? And yes I agree - I heard that radio show the other week? Brought me some (small) Hope for the future.......

Yes I have a solicitor but being a Law Degree holder myself? I'm a VERY critical & hard to please Client & in my eyes (& my dad's)? My brief of late has been WORSE than useless - Surrendered virtually EVERY important point to the ex's Point of view, had RINGS run round him by HER brief & not listened to (never MIND presented Their side with) ANY of my ideas or compromises - Just feel useless & Constantly on the losing side of late?

It Doesn't help either that the Cow I used to be with? Has been virtually Taunting me down the phone of late re' my boy - going on about how happy She bloody well is one minute & being nice to me then? Bringing him to MY town to another kids b'day party only Two Minutes walk from where I Live (& WE used to?) KNOWING I can't go near them or the police WILL end up involved & sending out threats of injunctions (IF I ring my boy on ANY day other than the two my solicitors latest surrender ended up allowing me) another? Just very down right now again but thanks for the hug Miss? It helped a lot....................

Also? VERY depressed right now in another sphere of my life as made a stupid, stupid elementary mistake with my New Almost OH (lady I was seeing) the other week & she ended up first blocking me on FB & then WHEN I got in touch with her? Completely exploding at me (went off like a Nuclear bomb & Vesuvius ALL in one!!) She was telling me How right then? She was really Hating me & how me she Never (not EVER) wants to talk to me, have Any contact from me or anything like that? Ever again & that right at the time (she was writing?) she wishes she'd NEVER met me. :( :(

I've Missed her SO much in the days since & feel utterly desolate withOUT her? Really REALLY miss her & don't know WHAT to do - Don't know What would happen IF I wrote to her again but might leave it a few weeks until my Birthday (the One day she CAN'T shout at me) & then write to/ring her? Just very, very sad right now & really missing the one person I cared about almost as much as my little son? Now there's a chasm almost the size of the Marianas Trench (deepest Underwater Chasm on Earth) Between us & I've no Idea HOW to bridge it. Very, very sad & upset right now; Feel completely desolate & utterly lost without my honey.............................:( :( :( :(

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AngelDelight78 · 29/06/2012 06:30

Hi Redline,

I am so sorry to hear how you are feeling. I may not be going through the same things as you but have experienced a lot of pain, heartache, health problems, depression, you name it.

Firstly, you are being really hard on yourself. The main point is, you love your child and want your child in your life. Let your ex continue being a spiteful cow! It will backfire on her eventually.

From now on, make notes of anything she says or does. If you have parental responsibilty, I am pretty sure she can't change your childs name and even if she does, she will probably do it by deed pole, which means nothing!

You are torturing yourself, metally and pyhsically. I have been there but please believe me, this bad and dark episode will pass.

I suffer with a lot of pain, back and knee pain, migraines and I am on a lot of medication. But I cannot change anything. I have come to accept that this is how my life is going to be. My pain will not get better, it will worsen. I was very angry and bitter, mainly for being unable to do most things mums or dads can do with their kids. It sucks big time but like I said, try and accept what has happened to you and try and find other ways of distracting yourself from the pain. Ten years on and I am finally able to say this is how my life will be.

Explore different things that you haven't tried before or done. easier said than done but you have nothing to loose.

Go and see your GP. Ask if you can have CBT. the therapy may not work the first time, second time or third time but don't give up! Keep trying so in the end, you can prove your critics wrong and say, you tried and you will see there are things out there that will help, even though it doesn't seem that way now.

I know you said you can't move but even if you are still in the same area, I would definately recommend you move. Even if it is a one bedroom flat, the bedroom can be for your child and you can have a sofa bed... Believe me when you move, you will change, you will be happier and you will be able to release all the bad energy.

You are stuck in your home, which is full of memories. Sometimes, you have to say, it is time to let go, however hard it may be. Make that your goal. It could take 6 months or a year to move. In the mean time, change the stuff in your home. Give your furniture to charity, look on freecycle and replace the furniture. Change your style to something new.

When you are stuck in a rut, it is very, very hard to let go. For some it is very easy, just like that but for us, it takes a long time. When I moved, which was recently, I started from scaratch. It was hard as hell, not having a bed, cooker, basic stuff but you get by. before I moved, I lived with all the stuff I had and that reminded me of my sons dad. It was so negative and dragging me down. But one day, I just started getting rid of everything. I gave clothes, shoes, kitchen stuff to charity. I shopped in second hand shops and changed the way I looked.

Try and write to your lady friend. Take your time. If you have made a mistake, learn from it and try and not do it again. If you really love this lady friend, then go after her, without coming across as a stalker lol. At least then you know in your heart, you tried. If it doesn't work, her loss. There will be more women that you will meet. Just don't rush it.

If you know where your ex lives, send your child nice letters, cards ect. Send it recorded delivery. i will tell you why. I grew up without my dad. I was 8 when they split up. I saw my dad for a while, then all contact stopped. Both parents are to blame. I was a messed up teenager. When I was 18, i searched for my dad and found him. He had a new wife, a son. He said he looked for me. That was a lie as he knew where I was. I got no phone calls, no birthday or xmas cards. He bad mouthed my mum and I defended her. Despite her mistakes, my mum raised me. My dad should of fought for me.

When I was pregnant to my son, I had already split up with his dad due to domestic violence. I told him despite what he had done, I wanted him to be a dad as I didn't want my son going through what I did. My ex was a waste of space. he was in and out of my sons life for several years. When it suited him. When he had a new girlfriend, he would dissapear, as he did at xmas and his birthdays. History repeated itself.

I always told my ex. Fight for your child, no matter what. Send cards, letters, have proof, so that child knows they were loved and thought about.

So now Mr, get some pen and paper and make a list of your goals. I found this very hard. I tried on and off for years. nothing motivated me. But I had to change my way of thinking and deal with my mental health as well as other health problems. In the early stages, i was ready to end my life. yes despite having a child, selfish I know. But now, even though I have the worse, darkest and horrendous bouts of depression, I put on a brave face. I want my son to have a happy childhood.

Live for the fact that you will get your son. Don't let the witch take him away from you. Stand your ground, what ever you have to do. Get advice from as many professionals as you can. Keep going on and on and don't give up!

Redline · 09/07/2012 05:50

Hi Angeldelight & any other ladies (or gents ) reading; I Read your reply of a couple of weeks back & it helped a lot Miss but now? I feel worse MUCH worse of late & am very depressed once more; :( :(

To put it (anything but) briefly? I can just feel EVERYthing closing in ALL around me; The legal case for my boy isn't going GREAT - the cow even deliberately FAILED to hand HER statement in re' why I SHOULDN'T have him? So I can't even submit an answer for the court to ponder but what she DID submit? Was a statement aimed at TAKING the tenancy of the house I've watched & maintained & kept for our boy whose spent 2 Xmases & new years & THREE years at since he was born? Away from me so her & her tame ape can live there for a short while (which with MY family in the SAME town on ALL sides of said house after ALL the trouble they've caused US of late? Is little short of suicidal but is prob' just a device by her & her brief aimed at upsetting me & Making me lose control/confidence? Well it's working).

Also been accused of all sorts again in said applications & statments? Apparently I held her on the bed & punched her, hit her in front of the boy & threw slippers & a TV remote at her BEFORE I was arrested last year via her accusations of DV? Only thing is? She told the Police? I threw a REMOTE only at her THREE days in a row & hit her in exactly the same place (she even took a photo of a bruise & said I caused it)? Only trouble is One of the days I was MEANT to have thrown the remote? We were at her friends baby daughters b'day party ALL afternoon & when we got home? She went straight to bed leaving ME to deal with the boy & tidy up the bombsite she was happy with our (then) shared home being. The second day? We were up all day AND all night worried about our boy's health after the previous days party due to an allergice reaction to said friend (whose daughter it was) gerbils & hamsters which we'd had a HUGE row about in FRONT of everyone? Finally the THIRD day I was MEANT to have "remote-bombed" her? We were at the hospital all day for SIX hours while our (then) 2 year old was diagnosed with asthma due to coughing fits after said allergic reactions.

So tell me this? Despite us being absent all THREE days at the TIMES of said incidents & the missiles going from TV remote THREE times to TWO slippers & a TV remote? HOW can I have attacked her as she alleges? It's total rubbish & she KNOWS it. The allegations along with all the shite my family & I have had to endure (threats, death threats from her New BF, false & spurious allegations from HER brief & the other day even my dad & MY brief Screaming at one another over HOW to respond?) Have upset me lots but nothing LIKE as much as HOW much I've missed my boy - 3 months now & counting - Miss him SO much............:( :( :(

BTW on the day before the first day SHE alleged I assaulted her last year? She had a wrestling match in the garden with our 2 year old (she's a bit of a boisterous child herself in truth due to her learning difficulties) & then? When we got indoors HE threw his FULL milk bottle at her & hit her Square ON the head making her cry - As I said to the police? How do they know HE didn't throw the bottle & it landed on her leg after? Her story was FULL of holes - Rather like her statement re' the tenancy - She said we'd been together sicne 2007 (Anniversary was on June 13th 2006 & I have PROOF of us celebrating it SEVERAL years in a ROW on FB?) & that we'd lived in the house since 2010? (We moved in there on October 24th 2009) & on the morning of the third day I was meant to have fought with her BEFORE we took our boy to hospital? She threw a plastic box I store tablets & medicines in at my head & then? Punched me hard in the forehead with THREE rings on during an argument over her upsetting our boy - I was gashed on my forehead & it bled in THREE places with cuts that didn't heal for weeks - I have photos of all that damage including the lump/bruised area around the hair on the back of my head & the gashes on my forehead on my phone's photo albums.

Finally of late? I've LOST the woman I got together with AFTER the b*tch of an ex; Someone I cared for SO much & REALLY was enjoying getting to know with what we called together our "baby steps"? That has hit me REALLY hard & left me totally gutted - I REALLY miss her but she seems lost now thanks to a stupid elementary mistake on my part that whatever I say & do? She WON'T let me rectify & I swear I didn't MEAN to upset her - I just didn't think & was rather hazy that night due to PK's for my headaches - but she? Won't accept that & from some of what she wrote me for the FINAL time 3 weeks ago? I would SWEAR she was crying - I'm so sad, upset, gutted & Lonely without her & really WANT to make it up to her but don't know HOW? I think HER emotions fluctuated to as she blocked, UNblocked & SCREAMED at me on FB & left me UNblocked for a Week before? Blocking me again. I just feel lost without her & don't know WHAT to do.............:( :(

All this & that mistake to? I swear came about due to the stress my cow of an ex' was & IS putting me under? I've not SEEN my son since April 4th & not Had him at MY house? Since April 1st. the ex' is TRYING to take the house off me & get a residence order for the boy - this despite the fact HER new BF has made death threats to ME & MY family, has had photos of him & my son with him topless & my son in only a nappy ON a bed taken & that the other night he put one of MY photos taken JUST after my sons birth in 2009 on as HIS profile prompting me, my brother AND a female friend of ours to ALL go after him with a MASSIVE barrage on FB (He soon changed the picture again) but the new pic? Was one They had taken of HIM? Giving MY boy a piggy back but as HE took it? I can say little. Also I've been accused of bullying & hitting my ex' when actually? SHE bullied me & wished me dead, insulted my weight, threatened me, accused one of my former friends (almost certainly falsely) of r*pe to cover HER infidelity & she even once (KNOWING of the plates in my face & the chance of death If I was hit to hard?) Punched me 17 times in the face UNTIL I hit her back way back in 2007. To think I LOVED that woman SO Much & would have (& DID) follow her to the ends of the earth/gates of hell & back to help her before? And that I was engaged to her TWICE & that we had a son & another child whom we sadly lost? I must of been mad to bring children into THIS with Her; She's destroyed my NEW relationship now to so I hope she's happy & I just don't know WHAT to do once more so guess I'm writing here to hopefully gain some help & advice as I feel so, so lost & drifting in the dark right now...............:( :(

NB Didn't help either that she rung the other week before the NEXT b'day of her mates daughter that STARTED our downfall last year? Not only was she NICE for once (which immediately put me on guard) but she was asking me ALL about my new r'ship (none of her business & WHAT r'ship now?) but also? We soon found out WHY - The party? Was right around the CORNER from my & My parent's homes & directly across the ROAD & underneath the flats from my bro's family flat!!! Talk about cheek & risking it from them!!! No wonder she was nice. Talk about rubbing it in to.

NBB She KEEPS boasting along with her so-called 'partner' about them having 'new' babies & her being pregnant (hence her taking MY pics from my early photo album of our son the other week which I don't mind HER doing as she's his mother & then a photo she took appearing on HIS profile which I most definitely DO mind!!!) Anyway apparently in the last 2 months? She's been (variously) 13, 17, 15, 22, 25 & 29 weeks as well as having HAD the baby/ies - Why do I say that? Well apparently at different times? It's been ONE baby, twins, Quads (!!!) & back to twins again with only ONE being born apparently; When the female friend (3 kids of her own) who had a go at her BF re' THAT pic' pointed out the absurdity of it all to her on FB? She blocked that friend & yet despite ALL this? Along with her & HIM getting engaged only 2 WEEKS after meeting & ONE week after finding out about me & my new GF (now ex' :( :( )? She apparently "loves me as little one (our son's) dad" & "wants me to be happy"? Don't make me fucking laugh................:(

NBBB Don't know WHAT to do with myself in truth Angeldelight78 or any other readers? She lives in a world of fantasy & Make believe & much as I try? I CANNOT alert the authorities to her UNsuitability of raising our boy (ESP' with THAT tame ape involved whose JUST like her - a Male her if you will). her parents help her ALL the time but? Our boys on dummies & bottles sometimes STILL at 3, sleeps in beds with HER & HIM sometimes, DOESN'T have set bedtimes, is STILL in nappies & not "big boy pants" as I was training him to do before & even calls ME on the phone now? By (variously) my REAL name, "bad/stupid/nasty/silly/cheeky daddy" & he calls THAT ape "Daddy" as well. The tw*ts TRYING to adopt him & calling him his stepson to & they're NOT so much as married yet!! She's smacked him SO hard in the past in front of me to that she's left a red mark on his back for a WEEK & THROWN him at me bodily TWICE as well? Once in front of that Female friend I told you about?

She's hit, screamed at, sworn at & threatened me as well as wishing me dead to & allowing her BF to threaten me of late to ALL in FRONT Of our son as well - She also threatened suicide WITH him 2 years ago & had a row with a drunk bloke IN her parents house where a door window was smashed leaving shards everywhere after which? I TOOK him for his own good under PR rules for 5 days only to be SCREAMED at in the street outside MY home when she & her mum picked him up (once mummy got back from Greece) that it's "all my fault, shouldn't have got legal etc" & I'm just stuck for options? I've TRIED to alert CAFCASS & SS but they DID a review last year & REFUSE to open a new case saying "we see no reason to at this time" And in the meantime? I am the one being told to go to parenting classes, clean up the house (which I hoover non-stop & keep fairly tidyish) & get RID of books (my great vice) to clear space there (they're all in boxes, on the bookshelf or out the store anyway) as well as being told to check with the council WHAT to do IF she gets the Tenancy despite being JOINT & her? Not being here properly for a YEAR now?

Oh yes & when applying TO the court? She accused ME of abducting him once last year (I kept him here one night due to his asthma as SHE did once a few weeks before ON one of MY contat days yet HER mob? Called the F*cking police & SHE abducted him AGAIN After acknowledging this as his primary residence the day she left & called the police) saying she was taking him for lunch & "loved me" & NEVER coming back & he's NEVER lived here since (this was last year: Wednesday June 29th 2011) She thinks I am a threat of abduction to him Now & a threat of VIOLENCE to!!! With all SHE has done!! I don't know Miss - She's also alleged at various times that he sleeps in the same bed as me, I medicate him wrongly (despite having nurses as mother & sister & asthma myself for 33 years yet HER brief knows more?), that my FAMILY don't have enough safety equipment at my mum's despite us raising FOUR kids (& counting) in me, my bro', my sis' & (virtually) my nephew (bro's boy) as well as MY son with nary a problem before? My bro's girl & NEW baby (his missus is pregnant again due in November) & SHE (bro's lady) is a nursery nurse to & me & my bro's cousin is a Social worker in the north of England?

So to summarise? We're NOT short of professional people in our family - my dad's a Royal Mail manager & I hold a degree in Law but can't use it as yet due to medical difficulties)? I've been accused of all THAT (inc' more flawed dates & more argument changes than I've had hot dinners) With HER background & charge list & history with the police in 2 counties (which interestingly? MY brief SWEARS is NOT on file - One reason me & my dad Rowed with him on Friday) The stupid thing is? I was GOING to accuse HER of abducting him (as she damn well DID last June!!) but was talked OUT of it BY? My brief & mum - yet she? Goes ahead & accuses Me of abducting him when I kept him ONE night for his Medical Safety due to cold air, asthma etc with 2 nurses in the house & a trained first aider (my dad). You couldn't make it up - But SHE did.....................:( :(

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Redline · 09/07/2012 05:58

Sorry to write ANOTHER massive novel/post so quickly on top of the last one BTW to anyone reading but couldn?t really put them BOTH together as That? Would be TO big I think; Anyhow? Here?s Part 2 of the Magnum Opus that is My F*cked up Life which I just wrote; LOL

I Feel lost in life in truth Angeleyes Hun'? I'm overweight - Massively (dangerously) so & whatEVER I do? WON'T remove it, I have sleep apnea & will start using (again) soon a machine like a pilot's oxygen mask to deal with that? For LIFE. My medication is AS strong as morphine almost so I'm almost always (pardon the French) Fucked & hazy & VERY tired non-stop & when I'm NOT? I get MASSIVE headaches that USED to come & go out of the blue like thunderbolts & being hit in the head with an axe or bat but now? It's a CONSTANT hammering in my head that's ALWAYS there & gets SO bad at times? I have to keep my left Eye CLOSED & ALL lights out as light hurts & I get ringing in my ears to - My doc' thinks it's due to MUCH more stress of late. I can hardly walk to ANY places due to my weight & sweat profusely when I do DUE to afore mentioned weight & yet I exercise EVERY day & seee NOTHING come off (am SO bad in weight? I need lifts EVERYwhere right now) - I have horrible diets & cravings & binges that I CAN'T control partly due to my PK's & eye ointment/drops for hayfever which have steroids in. I've not worked PROPERLY for YEARS & prob' EVER as before? All I did was work in cinemas & retail stores as a teenager when I LAST worked properly? I was 22 & am 34 next week!!!

Further? I have LOADS of qualifications but feel an UTTER utter fucking failure, I've not seen my son for going on FOUR months by the time I FINALLY get to the Contact centre, I MIGHT lose my house, the bills are all around me, I can't do the karate that once kept me sane (& fit) due to possible death threat via the plates in my face & CAN'T get off the ground or even motivated to work now due to constant rejection; I hate myself & my body SO much? I'm surprised I've HAD 2 PROPER relationships with women (including the witch) over the past 7 years never MIND one lasting Six YEARS & another with a woman of 36 (who I Miss SO much now); I've also lost the above mentioned NEW GF now & don't know HOW to fix the rift JUST when we were falling for each other & getting used to one another; I feel SO lost without her & don't know HOW to get her back.

On top of that? My parents HATE me or so it seems & row non-stop with me about my weight, lack of work/motivation/chance of losing my son etc, my bro' helps me but also is disappointed in the spectacular Crash I've suffered since our teenage years when things were pretty much reversed (I was the one going places then with friends & ladies on every arm, a decent enough physical figure & a job......at times now He? Has just started a new highly paid job, has a fiancee & three children as well as his own car), my sister despises me to though deep down I THINK she loves me (am always getting cutting remarks off her re' ALL the same stuff as my parents - Hardly surprising as she's my dad in a bra & knickers basically!! Won't say in a skirt as she NEVER wears them!!!) Doesn't help that sis' best friend is the sister of that singer Duggy from Mcfly & she often hangs out via that circle of friends (inc' Jazzy - The sister in question) with Pop & showbiz' Royalty - (no wonder she looks down on her tramp of a big bro' - :( She used to WORSHIP me once).

It helps that MY sis' is a bombshell knockout in looks herself & a VERY competent young cardio' nurse on the rise & her way to uni' with HER own car as well. :( Just feels like EVERYone is going places & I'm stuck in time in stasis & HAVE been for years since the op' & even sometimes BEFORE that - I don't know HOW to free myself but my god HOW I NEED to. I even ONLY go out at night or afternoon now as HATE daylight & seeing myself in those hours or with lots of people around to much & am VERY self-conscious of my weight & body issues (have a VERY bad tummy now & despite being hungry a lot? I NEVER keep it down & other times? I go DAYS without hardly eating or only ONE meal a day & despite clothes falling DOWN on me now? I've gone UP In weight of late). I often have VERY little money either due to lack of job & medical reasons as well as RUNNING the house I might now LOSE & am keeping for my son as it's ALL he knows in our town (calls it "daddys house") on my own? It's bloody expensive - More so when you're me & that just gets worse as time goes by.

And then finally? There's what led to me losing my recent darling who had (just about) captured my heart to. My utter, complete, unmitigated, total bloody DISASTERS with & around women - I can TALK to them yes, even make them LAUGH & sometimes (shock, horror) can now? ASK them out without suffering an attack of nerves (some even say yes but had I been here a few months back? Asking them WOULD have been my problem but mastered that now). But when it comes to what women & men "in the know" (sometimes with each other i.e. Couples) slyly call "the next level" & nudge, wink & laugh at the uninitiated for NOT knowing? I'm BEYOND bad - utterly awful - I CANNOT tell a woman my feelings or TRY to advance a relationship beyond social - Actually right now that includes TELLING those I REALLY like that I like them - IF I do it socially or with those I think a fair bit of? Fine but if I REALLY like them? ALL the old problems are STILL there.

And with those few (like the most recent ex')that I DO get beyond that stage with & even into the "babysteps" (as we did) towards a PROPER physical, intimate relationship of the sort that I See SO many men & women ALL around me of ALL ages (mine, older, younger, MUCH younger :( ) starting? It just ALWAYS without Fail & with a completely sickening inevitability where I am involved? Goes totally, completley & predictably horribly, completely WRONG when I get to THIS stage - In short? I ALWAYS end up pointing the double barrelled shotgun at my OWN foot & then? Pulling the trigger without Fail; Be it self-inflicted wounds (as with THIS GF? :( ) non-stop arguments, flashes of temper resulting in harsh words, putting my foot in it withOUT knowing, being sarcastic when I shouldn't or needlessly insensitive or even (also with the recent ex' :( ) being a little slower & less alert than normal due to my PK's? You can guarandamntee I WILL find a way to fcuk up even fairly promising or VERY promising (as with the recent lady Sob) relationships.

I dunno Miss Maybe I'm meant to be celibate or will NEVER meet my Princess Charming? Maybe I'm looking TO much? I just don't know - Just know that I WAS alone once before the less recent Witch (HOW I had even TWO relationships never MIND consecutively in recent years for nearly 7 years given all MY problems? Astounds me) for FOUR years & I WON'T be alone THAT long Ever again - Whatever happens & yes I DO think that has led to me sharing my homes & beds with the wrong women at times due to just NOT wanting to be lonely (it got a bit much when a date F*cked up 7 years ago & then? A female friend used MY bathroom for her & her BF withOUT asking? She was VERY shy & embarrassed afterwards but THAT? was the final straw - I decided after (then) 6 years at my (Former home) Flat? I was GOING to find a GF come what may & 4 months (& 2 more dating disasters later?) & a year & a half after the op' that so NEARLY killed me? I found my son's mum & was with HER for 6 years or so. What a mad choice THAT was. :(

Anyway to end here as I've rambled LONG enough now? I feel lost, falling apart, utterly depressed & just want to SLEEP all the time - I feel right now (& have for YEARS) like I'm 'existing' & just WAITING for my life to end rather than living? Everything that CAN go wrong? Does Non fucking stop for me & I'm SICK of it; I want to DIRECT my life & FEEL in control once more - I want to STOP being TOLD to "be yourself" (to live life, attract the right partner or A partner in my case!!) "find your niche" & other such ridiculous cliches & just get on with it? A way of ending WWIII with THE ex' from Hell would come in handy to but that? Can wait - I'll settle for some advice (ANY if there's some out there?) on HOW to find ME (the REAL me) that disappeared YEARS ago leaving my body & LIFE on autopilot with the spirit & spark behind my eyes just a disinterested observer as a once promising life was shot down in flames like a WWII Spitifire over Germany. All I live for right now? Is my son, the end of the limbo, hell & purgatory involved in the war to the knife with HER over him & SOMEHOW earning a second chance with only prob' the SECOND woman I've ever REALLY cared about (was asked a LOT at school IF I was gay? Am not but was worried for a while as women didn't attract me much? Don't now in truth unless VERY special in certain ways or we click but? SO lonely? I often look at the wrong ones or say the wrong things I think) but no? I'm NOT gay - I've only ever LOVED? Two women though I think including the one my hearts burning up missing right now & who haunts my every moment?

Anyway I THINK I need to find my 'Core' - a sense of WHO I am, WHY I'm here, WHAT I'm doing (other than for my son & hopefully the now ex' who I THINK I love (Any ideas on WHAT to do there BTW Ladies?) I think I NEED to learn to stand for MORE than just love & loss & FIND myself IF I'm to make a start on sorting out the myriad & Multitude of problems I'm facing right now Or? I could take the option that's seemed SO much more appealing of late & let the waves just close over my head - Close my eyes & NOT wake up. My depression is such that ONLY the thought of my son being WITHOUT me when he's an adult? Is Stopping me doing that so needs must? It's "FIND myself time" Trouble is? WHERE do I start? Feel SO lost & depressed right now & miss my son & my honey SO much. Any help would be appreciated Angeldelight & any other of the stunning ladies who post here (& I mean in SPIRIT not looks before anyone starts!! Your spirit & personalities SHINE through your words & I've read LOTS of them believe me!! Might seem odd for a man but I? Devour words like a machine almost in the manner that Roger Federer does Grand Slam Titles believe me & I've Read a LOT on here - There's a stunning bunch of women posting here & ANYone who THINKS British women are ugly, stupid or NOT intelligent etc? Should just come here & then? READ - Enough said.

OK then Now I've written virtually ALL I can? I think THIS? Is THE rest of my life - here goes nothing - now then Ladies (& any Gents reading) WHERE do I start? God knows but right now ALL I know is? I feel so, so lost & have had more than ENOUGH Of that - It's Way past time that changed & something tells me this? May be the first of a thousand steps. Just wish I didn't feel SO sad right now. Will I EVER feel happy again? Who knows? But right now? Doesn't feel like it anytime soon.........:( :(

BTW in return for your help before & to (Maybe) make me feel a little better at having done so? Sending you big hugs Miss; Hope you don?t mind ? I just NEED to hug SOMEone right now ? Feel trapped in a mental & Physical cage & NEED to find a way out or? I?ll go under & now (for the first time in AGES having FACED Death in my 2005 op? & been Right on the EDGE of it?) that really DOES scare me ? God knows WHAT I do now; Just DON?T want to go under but don?t know HOW to begin swimming ? Which is not good as in Real life? Deep water terrifies me ? Weak though that sounds. Just hope one of you good ladies can maybe throw me a buoy or a lifeline somehow? I NEVER thought I?d say this again but think I HAVE to now as I?ll FINALLY admit I?m scared once more but in truth & for the first time in a Loong, long time (& no I DON?T know WHY) but I?ll SAY it? I CARE again, I WANT to build it ALL back up from scratch for me & what I?m TRYING to say is? I DON?T want to drown...................:( :( :( :(

Hope someone can send some hugs right now & maybe hold my hand as THINK I need it ? Even being a bloke ? We DO get scared to; We just DON?T like admitting it but for a multitude of reasons? I?ll admit it now ? I AM scared & then some......................:( :( :(

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Redline · 10/07/2012 02:43

Is anyone out there? Just hope someone's listening/reading is all? Yes, I know I often write odysseys & novels sometimes but is just me? In short I'm Very scared re' life & what Might happen right now & I DON'T want to go under for the first time in a Very long time. Hope someone's there to hug or hold my hand - Think I really NEED it now & I don't say that lightly as Last time I admitted something like that? Was 7 years ago before it All changed. Anyway? Hope someone's out there. God knows I really Need them right now. Feel like I'm stuck in a black hole & about to disappear forever in all the darkness & clouds over & around me & my life of late - Feel stuck in a whirlpool of dark & don't know HOW to get out - Just Hope someone's out there...........................:(

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cupcake78 · 10/07/2012 02:55

Hello... I'm in the wide awake club as well, depression is a truly horrible illness. I know I'm in my second round. The black hole is so hard when you can't see your way out of it.

It helps me to tell myself it's just a feeling. It's inside my head and it will lift!

Redline · 10/07/2012 03:14

Thank you cupcake for answering Miss & sending you a hug for being there when I Really needed you - Hope I'm there for you to & you not mind a hug Miss?; Felt REALLY ready to fall OFF the deep end for a min' there thinking No-one answered or cared? I know people on here do - It just is hard to see forwards sometimes even one Minute as you say never mind for months & years etc. The black hole IS hard & then some when you Can't see the end of it - You right about that Miss;

I tell myself it's a feeling to that's inside my head & being a bloke? I sometimes even Believe that - but it's not - If you (or any other) manage to brave my two enormous Opus' Novels above from yesterday? You'll prob' see I've MORE than enough reasons BEHIND my depression & right now of late? They've been getting WORSE not better. I'm Trying to battle my way through; I really am for my son if no-one else (he's only 3 & Needs his daddy when he's older & now) but have not seen him for 3 months;

The ex' is a bitch par excellence & trying to take My (& My son's) home off me After being gone for a year now while I maintained it for him alone & paid all the bills & worse of all? Thanks to said Ex'? I've now made an utterly stupid mistake & killed stone dead the One relationship other than that with my son that I really cared about? I've lost a woman I think I was falling in love with - Almost certainly made her cry or sob as we broke up on FB & now? She hates & despises me & never Wants to see me again never mind talk!! Just Not in a good place right now. But whatever happens? Will keep fighting on - I have to. Sure there's a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere - right now though? Just HOPE it's not an oncoming train..................

NB Cupcake? I'll hold your hand if it gets worse anytime soon if you'll hold mine? Like I said? Good to know SOMEONE'S out there who knows Miss; Thank you again for answering & have a good evening. Take Care & Keep well Cupcake.

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cupcake78 · 10/07/2012 07:33

I think you make some very good points and it is understandable why you have your desperate times. Your only human and youve been deeply hurt.

It good for me to see your son is still a bright flame in the dark swirling hole. I understand that. I too have described my lowest points of being like a dark hole filled with nothingness, just empty. Feeling trapped in it is a very uncomfortable difficult place to be. I try to grab onto all the good that happens in a day, being thankful for my life and the gift it gives me even if it's just being able to watch the rain and see how beautiful it can be.

I am sure you will find hope and strength again and recognise when you have the luxury of control to make the most of it to build yourself up for the next slump. Each slump is a time of great emotional healing and understanding and does have a purpose.

I hope today you get some mental rest from your battles. There are good things out there.

Redline · 31/08/2012 05:48

Bump - Just to say to those who helped me here before? Thanks for all your help & I'm a little better now seeing my boy every fortnight if not Staying with him as yet; And yes me & the (sort of) new lady did (sort of) patch it up in the end; We're growing into something together anyway & since it's my first real r'ship since the Btch & with her included? Only my second* in 10 years? I'm treasuring it & the lady whose providing it all the more by the minute.

Unfortunately? It's not all plain sailing Sad When is it Ever in the UK nowadays mind? The ex' is still making my life as hard as possible - throwing around as many accusations as she used to punches at me while she was here before, trying to poison our son against me (telling him to call someone else dad, cutting the phone off at random during our calls, mad accusations etc) and now she's trying to take the family home which she abandoned and which I have kept up for a year & half now & Redecorated along with my parents & made into a lovely home for our son when he's here myself? From me.

Why? Not because she wants it you see? No she'll only be here 6 months - along with her loathsome New Partner (whose threatened my brother, mum, dad, BFF & me repeatedly during this time) but they will be what? 10 mins away from about Nine family members of mine or to put it another way? It's a good way to start WWIII? Angry But then after the 6 months? They would give the place up for good & exchange for somewhere near Her parents in Their town. Sod the fact we have a Joint tenancy so it's not Hers to muck about with but hey ho...........

My son calls this place "daddy's house" and has only stayed here when he's in my town on visits - he doesn't Have anywhere else to go around here - it would be senseless to have to settle him into somewhere else & he's used to spending time here with me but no - they continue on their mad quest to poison him against me, lie about & threaten me & my family and slander us non-stop before when We back Them into a corner legally? Trying to negotiate? Confused It's ridiculous & is upsetting my son who was Very confused when I saw him 3 weeks back for the First time in 4 months & 1 week Sad

Other than that? I'm getting on a Lot better with most of my family - my grandad's health has greatly improved - my brother's going to be a dad again Shock He only Had his daughter last Sept' (but another is due in Nov'!!); I'm improving as detailed above; I still need my PK's for the headaches unfortunately - I tried other forms of treatment but the pain got To bad to ignore & that's roughly where I'm at now - thanks all who spoke before (Timetoask, Cupcake78 & MrsMuddyPuddles) & any others who read or comment now - Hope the update is OK if a little long - but then with me? When is it ever not - t'was ever thus.......................Smile

NB I suppose even small acts of kindness help as well? I saw/was served by a checkout girl in my local Tesco quite late (for shopping) this evening just gone? She was on a corner till on her own about 4 mins walk from the nearest manned/womanned tills? I looked at her & thought she was ill as her nose/cheeks & face were reddish & she was sniffling - I asked her if she was OK & that was it!! She grabbed me hugged me very hard & gripped my hand really hard then? Started sobbing into my shoulder pointing at a copy of the local county free newspaper on her county whilst sniffling out her story? Turned out one of her best friends from college had been knocked down & killed in a recent RTA and it was the main story on the papers FP?

Anyway - I calmed her down somewhat - we chatted then I bought my stuff & made her smile a little and said we'd chat again online if we had time? And when I left? She wasn't just not crying? She smiled at me - I was really happy I'd if not removed it - at least assauged her grief a little - I don't know why but that? Really stuck in my head for some reason & I couldn't not talk to the poor girl - she was sobbing & only 18 - I know I'm 34 but at least I helped her a little - had a warm glow for the rest of the evening for some reason - God Knows Why but I keep thinking of her now - I hope she's ok. But as to me? With things like that from me? I feel like I've at least done something to help someone instead of feeling like a useless piece of trash as I did not to long ago (read my previous posts here for proof of that). Anyway thanks to any & all who read. Hope you're all OK & keep well...............

Redline. A mixed up but harmless (I think) bloke whose had a strange year & then some...............Confused Blush Smile

Bye for now - Keep well people

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Redline · 31/08/2012 05:55

Sorry didn't mean to ramble or write to much above? Just been very confused of late & spent a Lot of time in the past few months wondering where or if I'll have a home when this mad court battle over my boy & our house is finally over in a couple of months - to say it's been stressful & added to my depression at times? Is an understatement Sad

But at least a number of other things are combining now to lift said depression a little & the proof that (shock) there still is a little kindness in the world & that (big shock) I am capable of providing it sometimes helps somewhat as well as all that is currently happening with my dear lady & DS. Anyway thanks to any & all who read as I said & all who replied before.

Bye for now & keep well. Smile

Redline.

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