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Do you know about anxiety, Beta Blockers, CBT or PND ?

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houndsoflove · 20/03/2012 20:38

Because I need advice on all these things I think.

Went to see my GP today to discuss my stupid bastard panic attacks. I don't want to start taking anti depressants so he has prescribed me Beta Blockers (Propranolol) for the symptoms.

Brief background;

My previous doctor diagnosed me as having PND but I remained convinced it was just Panic Disorder & Anxiety. I have had panic attaks for 15 years but have always been able to 'manage' them (by using a lot of safety behaviours and avoidance, mainly). Since the birth of DD they have increased markedly in both frequency and veracity, and I started to exhibit horrible signs of developing severe agoraphobia. I am 'managing' this, but it is a daily struggle against myself, and I am starting to become depressed because of the anxiety, not in spite of it IYSWIM ?

I am due to complete CBT in the next fortnight - it has been helpful and the therapist is wonderful, but I am not seeing results fast or dramatic enough for my liking. She has told me to lower my expectations.

I feel trapped, fearful and my confidence has taken a mighty blow. I dread the feeling of blooming terror which preceeds a panic atack now, and spend much of my time engaged in conversation with myself (internally) or self-sabotaging all my efforts at self-help (again, internal voice). I am thinking of leaving my partner (I am storing up resentments) and when I look back at old photos of myself (pre DC) I do not recognise the happy girl in them. Its like another lifetime. I have near constant episodes of unreality and dis-association, and feel like a cartoon some days. Its very frightening and tiring. I am aware I think too much, and wonder if I ought to go back to work (am SAHM often alone with DD all day) in order to 'normalise' myself.

However, I do not feel useless or exhausted and unable to go on. I am not unhappy, other than at my failure to cope with the anxiety, and am not angry other than with my resentment toward it. I do not feel like a failure or suicidal or tearful, nor all the other boxes I didn't tick on the 'Depression' list I have to look at each week for CBT.

My GP today said that if the BBs don't work they will try me on ADs and that I have 'suffered long enough to be proud about it'. I can see what he means but I don't think I am depressed, just very, very anxious.

Has anyone used BBs to successfully cope with panic symptoms ?

If I can take the BBs and utilise the CBT methods as well I think I may well allieviate a lot of my misery. The practioner told me not to expect significant change until six months AFTER the course finishes. Has anyone with experience of CBT had the same effect ?

If I do nothing about PND does it go away eventually or am I doomed to this forever ? I miss me an awful lot.

OP posts:
YommyMommy · 22/03/2012 15:02

Hi houndsoflove,

I have just read you post and can say hand on heart I could have written that practically word for word 4 years ago.

I am at work at the moment so will write more later. How is your day going?

There is light at the end of the tunnel...promise!

X x

BustyDeLaGhetto · 22/03/2012 19:02

YommyMommy I'm intrigued - and hopeful that you'll say you made a full recovery using booze, rockn'roll and lying on tropical beaches. That is the kind of cure I'm after.

I'm not feeling too bad - looks like the side effects are wearing off, and I think any residual panic is of my own design. I naively thought that at the most I might feel a bit vague on the ADs for a few days, and the GP himself said 'Just a bit headachy and woozy' so was not really prepared for how low they made me go. I'd forgotten why I hate taking anything which interferes with my brain - because I handle it really badly. HOpefully after 48 hours have passed I should feel a bit better and able to decide what needs to be done next.

On a positive note, I used a heap of what I'd learnt in CBT recently to manage the feelings of detatchment, dread and anxiety I had this morning which felt so insurmountable. I found the technique of mindfulness (i.e. being in the NOW) very useful indeed, and I realised that even though I felt shocking that no harm came to me or DD. Which is the measure of things really isn't it ?

BustyDeLaGhetto · 22/03/2012 19:04

Oooops. Name change Fail. Sorry, this is my 'usual' posting name, I changed to 'houndsoflove' on more sensitive subjects. I blame the Setraline. Smile

PacificDogwood · 22/03/2012 22:17

BustyHound Wink (see what I did there?), sorry to hear the Sertraline is not agreeing phantasically well with you.
If you can, grin and bear it - the first few days are the hardest, you cannot skip them, nobody can do them for you, but they will pass.

I think Outraged speaks a lot of sense re your DH not being (and not needing to be) a specialist in what's ailing you. Hopefully he'll come round to seeing that you are simply accepting all help that's available.

To answer your earlier question, yes, you can take half a dose (are the tablets scored down the middle? - I have no idea) and could take them in the evening/before bedtime if you want. Most people find a time of day that suits them best. Once established on them, it's probably best to stick to whatever time of day you have settled on.

One foot in front of the other, go on... Smile.

PacificDogwood · 22/03/2012 22:18

PS: Are you a hound owner btw??

PacificDogwood · 22/03/2012 22:18
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BustyDeLaGhetto · 23/03/2012 09:05

Arf at pacific being nosey. No, no hounds although I would love one but DP is allergic to dogs and cats, apparently. I do love Kate Bush though, and that is a favourite album of mine.

Feeling a bit better today. Haven't taken any more tablets, and really don't intend to. My appetite still hasn't returned and I feel a bit fuzzy and nervous but again, not sure how much of that is residual and how much is my head, overthinking. Going to try to go to the park with DD today though, as spent the last two days cowering indoors. This week has been a bit of a black hole, mentally speaking. Sad

HepHep · 24/03/2012 20:39

I hope things improve soon for you, OP. Just in case you are still considering them, someone I'm very close to is taking Beta blockers for PTSD-related anxiety and said they are really helping. Had to up the dose recently a bit (after speaking with the doc) as she felt they weren't having quite the same effect as before and her body was getting used to them.
Your DP needs glaring at. FFS! Hope you're okay.

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