When AD's don't do it!

[seaofyou]

What do I do next?

AD's make me feel ill physically and suicidal and I don't feel that before taking them esp SSRI's!

Anyone else get this?

SSRIs do take a while to sink in, are you sure you've given them a good try?

Anyway, I would ask for Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.

What are you on and for how long. In the beginning they make you feel worse and there is a danger that with young people especially they will increase suicidal thoughts, which is as you know a major symptom of depression. Don't despair, sometimes you have to try one or two different ADs till you get the one that suits you, and get the dosage right. The other thing is that most GPs don't know a lot about mental health issues. But with ADs it is sadly a case of"trial and error" - go back to the GP if you have been taking them for more than a month.

Have you tried different kinds? It can be a long process to find something that helps

Yep I tried SSRI's (the worst), cyclic, nonSSRI's, sedative only...this over 7 years. I have not tried MAOI's but don't think they would work either...I have managed to take 3 months of each and it get's worse!

Could I not have depression but something else and the ADs make it worse! I've had PTSD thrown in on top but even before this I had a depression that nothing worked....

Except when I was young I had Vitamin high dose A by dermatologist which had HUGE impact on my mental/physical health...every single side effect I had opposite!

I'm not young lol Nana!

Oh seaofyou it does sound like you have drug resistant depression. I know you might be horrifed about what I am about to say, but when I was an inpatient on a psych ward Easter 2010 with severe depression, I heard patients talking about ECT and I was really surprised as I thought that had died the death long long ago.

I brought it up with one of the drs on the ward and he said it was still used and was very good for treating drug resistant depression. He said that the patient has a sedative and muscle relaxant (that stops all that dreadful shaking that we used to see) and they really have no memory of what has happened. He said there was no evidence to show that there was any memory loss - although the patient might feel tired for a couple of days.

I spoke to a patient I knew was having ECT and she confirmed what the dr had said and she had had 6 sessions and was feeling 90% better than before the treatment. I checked again with the consultant psychiatrist and he said the same, only asked me why I wanted to know, but he was a funny bloke really.

Do you have any idea of the root cause of your depression, and you mention PTSD. Do you think therapy would help you. Thing is as you probably know the NHS only usually offer 6 sessions of CBT. Can you afford to see a therapist with an expertise in PTSD on a private basis?

I was spolit! I had 3 months with psychologist and 6 with OT that visited me when ds under 1. It helped a lot but the SRRI's made my brain hurt and feeling of blood running down my brain and flashes of lightening...though I was going to have stroke so stopped them. The next time years later had SSRI I collapsed when out shopping made me really unwell.

I went private and had NLP and hypnosis in end and worked really well...however triggers have returned just blobs but same thoughts.

The depression is way old..I turned veggie and then Vegan for 5 then back veggie...20 yrs in total. At 10 yrs old didn't realise the importance of vits etc...I had really low B12 and needed meds for that.

When I was 25ish I had to have mega high dose vit A and the side effects hair thining/depression/muscle wealness/ etc I went 110& other way...my hair grew thich and fast with lovely shine, my muscle weakness disappearred and I wanted to suddenly exercise (was phobic I am sure before that) and I never felt so happy and lost lots of weight!).
The vit A stopped after a year and after 18 months I was back to other way...that was the only time I felt well in every sense!

Maybe I need to see a nutristionalist not a psych!

ECT I think is more for people at deaths door. I aint sucidal thankfully (unless you put me on AD's) and I am functioning ok...sleep/diet/anxiety/isolation main issues I guess now.

I have just started counselling (DV) and it has drawn my attention to how my mood and also very little amount of paranoia present (which of course I have good reason...I know they all say that doh).

Sorry my post wasn't helpful seaofyou and I was a bit dubious about posting about ECT but hope I haven't offended you.

oh god no Nana I didn't mean it to sound I was ungrateful..sorry! Thank you for sharing this and your thoughts:)

If I repost with 'anyone has a vitamin induced depression?' might find people who have noticed difference with high dose vits?

My dad suffers from depression. He has coeliac disease and is B12 deficient - has needed to have regular injections as he is unable to absorb from vitamin supplements or naturally. He desribes his shots as rocket fuel for his butt . Have you had yours B12 levels checked recently?

Can recommend Berrocca (vitamins) for boost to anti-depressant rather than increased dose, and find the non-fizzy variety are easier to take. Hope the counselling helps very soon.

yes took Berrocca at one point very nice taste.
AnotE my ds has ASD has gluten and dairy allergy on special diet gets blisters, bad bowels and aggressive/stimmy when digests gluten and absent seizures/bad bowels with milk I did the 'diet' for 5 months and did notice no bloating/skin issues if I remember...I have tested and I am wheat/milk allergy and I was 97% gluten peptides(sp) and I have wondered if I have coeliac type disease but other way round constipation/bloated/skin/ and CFS symtoms
I will go back to doc and ask for levels and allergy tests now...this has made me ? as I am sure it is allergy/vit defic?
My mum is on B12 injections had penicious anemia(sp again!) when younger but has diabetesis now (type2)

ps ds just been put on vits A,B,C,D,E,B12,folate,zinc....sounds a bit of an abnormal vit absorbtion issue doesn't it ?

Anyone know more about vits/allergy/depression issues or had it and if any vits/diet worked?