How do i go about getting a menal health asessment for dss today without getting him sectioned?

[Marne]

Dss (19) is having some kind of breakdown, he wont talk and has shut down, i have no idea how he's feeling or if he wants to harm himself, Dh has just taken him to gp and they have referred him but will take few days to hear back, the gp could not do anything else as dss refussed to speak, where do we go from here? can we get him assesed by mental health team today?

Oh Marne I'm so relieved people have responded and are assessing him. Hope it goes ok as in they find out what's going on x

Marne, any news on dss? I hope he's got the support he needs. Please feel free to ask any more questions if you are unsure of anything.

Have been watching this thread...any update?

He was asessed yesterday by a member of the mental health team, again he refussed to speak, dh got very frustrated and took him back home to his mums. He has to go and see a mental health gp today to get tablets but he will refuse to take them. Dh kept trying to phone him last night to tell him about the appointment but there was no answer, we were worried so dh drove up there and he had gone out with his brother and friend, dh was not happy as it seems odd that he would want to go out when he's apparently so depressed. We havn't got a clue whats going on, if he is really depressed or if its an attention thing or even if he might be in trouble (done something he shouldn't have). He has done this before as a child (shut down) to get his own way when things are not going the way he wants them too. Dh used to coach his football team when dss was 12 and if dh put him in goal he would just stand there, refuse to talk and let goals in (didn't care that he was letting his team down), he has never really shown any feelings towards anyone, its always been about him. Last time he did this it was suposedly because he wanted to see his dad more (he shut down for days) so we told him he could come over as often as he liked, he cheered up but still didn't come over more often (his choice). We could give him the world and he would never be happy (it would never be enough for him).

Dh has taken time off work to take him today but i can't see us getting anywhere unless he talks. I'm sure its likely to be linked to ASD, ADD or ADHD, he has always been a little odd with behaviour problems when he was younger so it would make sense.

Feels like we are going around in cercles, each appointment consists of someone asking him questions and him just sitting there, the next day he will say a few words and then clams up again, its so frustrating and its taring dh apart.

A quick update:
Dss has been admited to a phyc hospital, dh went to pick him up for his appointment and he was on a heap on the floor crying , the doctor took one look at him and referred him to the hospital. Dh is with him now, i phoned ex to tell her and she said 'he was like that this morning when i left for work' (so why the hell did she leave him and why didn't she phone us?). I'm waiting for dh to phone to see is he agreed to go in and if he has settled. Lets hope this is the start of getting him sorted out and better. Thank you all so much for all your advice over the past couple of days, i have had no one else to turn to (thank god for the internet).

Thank goodness he is now in hospital where he can be assessed and cared for. And thank goodness that he has you and his father who care, unlike his mother .
I'm sorry that he is going through this though and I wish him strength and a positive recovery

Just wanted to add that if he is on the autistic spectrum as you suspect, he may find it hard to know how he feels and almost impossible to articulate, and perhaps that might contribute to him not being able to talk and describe what is going on for him when he's been asked. He might be feeling very low and distressed but unable to articulate that.

Poor dss seems worse today, last night (after medication) he was talking but today when i visited he barely spoke at all, i couldn't even get him to drink and he didn't want to go ooutside to smoke (yesterday he was asking to go outside). I spent 2 hours with him and it was like he wasn't there or almost like he's in a coma (non responsive). Dh has phoned to check on him tonight and the nurse said he has hardly spoken all day and they gave him something to make him go to sleep for a few hours this afternoon. They keep telling me 'he will improve' and 'he will be ok' but i think its going to take a very long time .

Marne, it will be a big adjustment for him to be in hospital but hopefully he will slowly settle into the routine there. This period is when staff will build up relationships with him and fully assess his needs and appropriate treatments. He is in the best place for support, especially if he has been having thoughts of self harm. Your feedback about the history of his difficulties will help in his assessment (especially if he is not talking to staff) so you can prepare for that. You have done the very best thing for dss, hopefully it won't be long before things begin to improve for him. He's taken the first steps on the road to recovery, it may be a long journey but the important thing to remember is that he's getting the professional help he needs.

Any update? How is he doing now?