Is this PND?

[baby2makesmeblue]

I've changed my name for this as people in RL know my normal mumsnet name.

i've been feeling really quite lost and down since DD2 was born. i have a very supportive DH but he doesn't seem to have noticed quite how i'm feeling at the mo. He's snowed under at work so its not really suprising. i'm also very good at hiding how i feel. its easier to bury it rather than confront it.

Since DD2 had been born i've just not felt like me. its more than just being tired. i love both of my girls dearly but soem days i just want to curl up in bed and not move.

Is this PND or just normal second time mum blues?

I think there is a difference to PND & the baby blues. It just depends how down you are feeling really.
I had PND with both my ds & dd. But it didnt happen until about 3 or 4 months after the birth.
I suffered from anxiety & panick attacks after dd was born. The usual tearful feeling, I even felt suicidal !
I had a very supportive dh, & sometimes I think that can make you feel guilty for feeling the way you do, but at the end of the day, its hormones & there is no control over it.

For your sake I hope its just the baby blues, as it can pass very quickly. But if you are worried maybe you could chat with your HV.

Hope you are feeling yourself soon

I would worry more about your last line about not wanting to even move somedays, just wanting to curl up........this is how my PNd starts often. you catn shake the PND blues tho you can normal post baby blues so maybe in a few days thsi could give you a clue?
just wanted to say please TALK to your dh, even if hes busy, even if you think its all mad stuff and not worth him hearing. because its very hard to get those lines of comunication back open if you DO have PND and need his support. -if he has no idea how you are feeling, he cant help or support you (biggest lesson I learnt, dh has NO idea what things bother me or get me down, and i really do have to tell him) and i was surprised at how kind and helpful people are, like my HV, who I had never really bothered before. and my GP, who i thought wouldnt understand, and did, wonderfully. it might help to speak to them now, just so they can keep an eye on you, even if this comes to nothing.
I hope you are feeling more yourself soon. and I hope all that rambling of mine helps!

yes it does sound like PND. I had this too and was concerned about going on meds and resisted for far too long. eventually took st johns wort and now taking vit b6 supplement instead as ttc since december and have had very good results with this. worth a try going down the milder routes first. also try your local homestart, they were a godsend to me and they have started up a pnd supprt group round here too which is fab. please get some help. don't want to scare you but i waited too long and had a breakdown. not to mention lack of quality of life and it was affecting my dh and ds too even tho I tried hard not to let it. hth.

K xxxx

thanks

i've been feeling like this for a few weeks now. i think i've become so good at putting on a happy face that most people would be shocked to hear how down i am. dh is off next week and we're going to see my parents, so i will wait and see if having a bit more help around and therefore not feeling quite so tired helps. i'm hoping its just normal post baby blues coupled with being tired. i'm breast feeding so not sure where i stand with taking meds.

my hv is useless, well always has been in the past with baby related stuff.

Hugs to you. I had dd2 just ove 13 weeks ago and have had definite moments of miserableness.

Do you feel down every day or just on some days? If it is just on some days, on the good days work out the reasons why you're feeling down - i.e. lack of sleep, constant tiredness, lack of time to yourself and remind yourself about that on the bad days. If you remember the 'rational' explanation of why you're feeling down it can help you to put it in perspective.

Baby2, there are ADs you can take while bfing.
If the sad/hopeless feeling is persistent, if you find you're more down than up for a period of time (even a week), please speak to someone DH, your parents, GP about it.
Just talking may be cathartic and may change the pattern of whatever it is.

just spilling the beans here has lifted my spirits. i've been composing my thread starter message for about 2 weeks. so this is the first step. thanks for listening