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Has anyone beat anxiety for good?

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bally2 · 26/12/2010 21:17

Hi there,

i dont post often on MN but i am going through an awful time with anxiety. I dont want to take medication. I want to beat this through councelling/ hypnotherepy etc..Has anyone beat it naturally and completly cured themselves?

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onepieceoflollipop · 01/01/2011 22:32

bally2 just want to add that I do remember/understand how distressing severe anxiety can be. I hope that you find the right key to help you come through this.

People who have never experienced it find it so hard to understand how a "bit of worrying" - as some people see it -can affect you so much.

Best wishes to you.

bally2 · 01/01/2011 23:21

Thank you so much for all this advice. it really is helping me so much already!

Meunscrabby, Your right i am scared of the panic. Your so right about fighting it. im having a bad night tonight and after reading your post, i feel instantly better! I will remember that in future. The minute i feel the slightest bit nervous, i panic about panicing! its a vicious circle.

Ilovenewpjs, Thank you so much for taking all that time to reply to me! I am the exact same about the hospitals. When we were snowed in recently, i nearly had a nervous breakdown thinking if something happend me, i would not get to the hospital on time. I was due to visit sil in london (i live in ireland) but i cannot go as i am too scared to go on the boat because if something happens me i won get to hosp. ITs ridiculous, ive spent months trying to convince dp to get the boat as im scarec of flying and now he has agreed, i cancel!

I went out last night and had a great night. had one too many glasses of wine and couldnt have cared less about my anxiety! I got up this morning and my mum was here with dc. I was throwing up all day it was awful! My mum left and i had a really bad panic attack. Its from the drink. I Put the kids to bed for a nap and i woke dp. He was actually very good. normally he doesnt know what to say to me. he made me lie down and breath. I had a little sleep and felt much better. ds1 now has a vomiting bug which isnt helping with the anxiety at all!

I will defo look into that book you you recommend. I will google her now. Im going to make it my mission to beat this. IT really is taking over my life and i think about it constantly. thank you all so much, it gives me great hope to hear your stories xxx

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charliesmommy · 02/01/2011 00:23

I have had panic attacks and anxiety attacks for the last twenty years on and off..

I now have them pretty much under control for the first time, and thank a lot of that to this forum

www.uncommonforum.com/viewforum.php?f=7

if I am having an attack now I read through that, and it really really helps me..

also there is an article on there about the vagal nerve, which is fascinating and explains a lot about why you get missed heartbeats, racing heart beat, fluttery heartbeat, well worth reading, and I totally recommend it.

ilovenewpyjamas · 02/01/2011 20:17

Bally2 - no problem. I have been on mums net as I have been facing difficulties with my relationship/lone parent things so i don't want to be a hypocrite in saying my life is rosy. I am experiencing problems in other areas and I have cherished the advice and kindness received.

However, in terms of anxiety/panic attacks I would say i am cured. This is more my area of specialism on advice and I am going to cut and paste something i wrote when I used to do work with anxiety sufferers. I do, as usual, go on! It may not be relevant for many of you it is for people who suffer with more extreme anxiety/ panic attacks........

I wish I could stop harping on about Dr Claire Weekes but I can't. Reading in her books about people who were completely cured (some had suffered for even 40 years! Couldn't leave their house for 40 years!) for me was music to my ears. As I think back to it, anxiety was a disability and to me it was controlling my life every second - and how heavy every second was. Exhausting. You see, I have to really think about it now as I am in such a different place. God, it made life difficult. I never thought I would get better. A very dark place. Since being cured, before I had baby and had free time, I used to do voluntary work with other sufferers. If you need any help/advice please feel free to ask. But, i know everyone is different and from now on I will just talk about what helped me as tis may help others. Some people on here may be talking about having one symptom and fortunately they were able to control it with calming techniques or medicine or rationalising etc. I think my anxiety was a more nervous breakdown thing and so may not be relevant to you but I will write about it in any case others come to the thread in this situation. You can break free from the prison of anxiety. You can do what the hell you want and do it in a way you may have used to - without thinking about anxiety - without your body reacting to whatever it is that triggers your anxiety - it is through a process of de-sensitising your body - making it know that the triggers and the symptoms it creates are not important. I know I sound like a preacher......When i mentioned I had travelled abroad I meant on my own. I'd have never thought that was possible. In fact to not even think about anxiety on a daily/weekly/monthly basis is how I am now. For most people I can imagine you might think the following is pretty crazy for a few you may be able to relate to it. I first had anxiety when I was 24. It was from a combination of physical exhaustion (busy/hectic lifestyle)

Anyway the book is called Essential Help for your Nerves - I got the edition that has the interview with patients in the back called more help for your nerves. She was an Ozzy doc who devoted her career to anxiety sufferers. IN many countries it is handed out like we hand out pills here. I don't know why it is not more popular in this country. But, she did do some work for BBC radio and cured thousands through that.

I bought several self help books when I started getting panic attacks but I thought it was less for what i call medial anxiety it was just about fear in general.

A friend's mum handed me this book and I didn't bother read it - I was in a state that i couldn't calmly read anything. I didn't quite know what was happening to me at the time.

of course it helps to know that the tingling in your head is not a brain tumour or that the tingling in your arm isn't a stroke or the teeth marks in your tongue aren't the result of a severe reaction that might....... blah blah the thing is when you are emotionally drained and tired as much as I was, knowing this was not enough for me. When I had panic attacks i thought I was dying - thinking I was facing death many times a day - absolute bloody awful fear that to rationalise and think through my symptoms - I couldn?t - it wasn?t enough for me, I didn't have enough energy or even faith in it. Besides, with an overactive imagination, I would be able to convince myself that my arteries were different so i may be more susceptible to having a stroke or that I read there was a woman who had a brain tumour at the age 24 and....(Heat magazine has a lot to answer for)

Instead I applied the FAFL technique (Face-Apply-float-let go (the book the book o holy book explains it))which just helps a tired mind deal with the here and now - to get through the panic attack - or rather, to let it happen with a smile on your face, and it may return again, triggered by a thought, a memory, a smell, being in a claustrophobic place...(whatever triggers it, it doesn't matter) and it comes back with less severity, and you apply FAFL (the book, the book...) and it may come back again and so forth until you no longer react. And it works.

I never took any medication. In hindsight, I think I should have taken some beta blockers just to calm my body. Give it a break. I don't think, personally, medicine is a cure; it is just a crutch - that's my opinion on the type of anxiety I had.

I can imagine the flying and boat trip scenario. I had to cancel many things - or make such a fuss about things v- ask 1000 questions to make sure I could go - I lost friends. I know how it can chip chip away at your confidence. How crap it can make you feel when you can't do things. The hospital thing is typical, so is travelling. You think you are ill; you are going to die so you want to get medical help quick. On your way to being cured, you will realise that it just doesn?t matter - you will not get scared of your physical symptoms. You will be able to fly in the future I am sure. There is no reason for you not to be able to. If you know how to deal with anxiety you will be able to do anything.

I have many nuttier things to say about my condition! (I use the word nutty just to laugh at myself) - just to show you how bad i was (no previous history of mental illness) - when it all started mid-20s.....it spreads - phobias spread -one of the 1000s of weird things I did was I was convinced I would have an anaphylactic shock from reaction so I wouldn't eat anything out of the house - restricted diet. I used to take a tissue out with me in case I had food in my mouth or on my tongue so I had to remove it in case it would cause a reaction. Then, i would have to make sure that the tissue wasn't one that left fibres in case these were left on my tongue to cause a reaction....AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe how I was. I have to say, poor bloody me. I would like to laugh at what in out myself through but I know at the time it is a living hell.

2 years ago, i travelled across the outback (again, who would have thought?!). I felt the panic come on - in the middle of nowhere - what if what if...but applied the FAFL technique and smiled when I felt my heart racing, dizziness, sore scalp, I even said "ha ha here you are again you little b*&^%rd!" But, i didn't fight it; i let it take over (FAFL)

Some people think anxiety, especially if it is triggered by things of the past is a way of your subconscious telling you that you need to take stock of things. In a way it is a positive thing. Hard to believe and so getting things off your chest for some could also be a cure.

For now, i think onepieceoflollipop is right - you could look after your body help your body to relax. I think anyone who has anxiety will know that the body and mind are indeed linked. If you relax the body it and your mind will be able to cope better. You could exercise or even steps like having a nice shower- looking after your body. I mentioned body scan - you start at your toes working your way up body, clenching muscles and then relaxing them - smile when you do it or say 'relax'. It will only take a few mins, you could do it when you are in bed at night.

If you are v anxious now, you could do some breathing - hand on belly/below rib cage - breathe in and your belly should go out - make it go out, breath in for 4 counts and then exhale for 4. Do this few times a night as many anxious sufferers shallow breathe so that their bellies go in when they inhale.

I would be happy for even one person to be helped from the above.

SO, I think I've said more than enough!

ilovenewpyjamas · 02/01/2011 20:21

DIDN'T COPY VERY WELL......THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD LOOK

Bally2 - no problem. I have been on mums net as I have been facing difficulties with my relationship/lone parent things so i don't want to be a hypocrite in saying my life is rosy. I am experiencing problems in other areas and I have cherished the advice and kindness received.

However, in terms of anxiety/panic attacks I would say i am cured. This is more my area of specialism on advice and I am going to cut and paste something i wrote when I used to do work with anxiety sufferers. I do, as usual, go on! It may not be relevant for many of you it is for people who suffer with more extreme anxiety/ panic attacks........

I wish I could stop harping on about Dr Claire Weekes but I can't. Reading in her books about people who were completely cured (some had suffered for even 40 years! Couldn't leave their house for 40 years!) for me was music to my ears. As I think back to it, anxiety was a disability and to me it was controlling my life every second - and how heavy every second was. Exhausting. You see, I have to really think about it now as I am in such a different place. God, it made life difficult. I never thought I would get better. A very dark place. Since being cured, before I had baby and had free time, I used to do voluntary work with other sufferers. If you need any help/advice please feel free to ask. But, i know everyone is different and from now on I will just talk about what helped me as tis may help others. Some people on here may be talking about having one symptom and fortunately they were able to control it with calming techniques or medicine or rationalising etc. I think my anxiety was a more nervous breakdown thing and so may not be relevant to you but I will write about it in any case others come to the thread in this situation. You can break free from the prison of anxiety. You can do what the hell you want and do it in a way you may have used to - without thinking about anxiety - without your body reacting to whatever it is that triggers your anxiety - it is through a process of de-sensitising your body - making it know that the triggers and the symptoms it creates are not important. I know I sound like a preacher......When i mentioned I had travelled abroad I meant on my own. I'd have never thought that was possible. In fact to not even think about anxiety on a daily/weekly/monthly basis is how I am now. For most people I can imagine you might think the following is pretty crazy for a few you may be able to relate to it. I first had anxiety when I was 24. It was from a combination of physical exhaustion (busy/hectic lifestyle) and emotional stress.

Anyway the book is called Essential Help for your Nerves - I got the edition that has the interview with patients in the back called more help for your nerves. She was an Ozzy doc who devoted her career to anxiety sufferers. IN many countries it is handed out like we hand out pills here. I don't know why it is not more popular in this country. But, she did do some work for BBC radio and cured thousands through that.

I bought several self help books when I started getting panic attacks but I thought it was less for what i call medial anxiety it was just about fear in general.

A friend's mum handed me this book and I didn't bother read it - I was in a state that i couldn't calmly read anything. I didn't quite know what was happening to me at the time.

of course it helps to know that the tingling in your head is not a brain tumour or that the tingling in your arm isn't a stroke or the teeth marks in your tongue aren't the result of a severe reaction that might....... blah blah the thing is when you are emotionally drained and tired as much as I was, knowing this was not enough for me. When I had panic attacks i thought I was dying - thinking I was facing death many times a day - absolute bloody awful fear that to rationalise and think through my symptoms - I couldn?t - it wasn?t enough for me, I didn't have enough energy or even faith in it. Besides, with an overactive imagination, I would be able to convince myself that my arteries were different so i may be more susceptible to having a stroke or that I read there was a woman who had a brain tumour at the age 24 and....(Heat magazine has a lot to answer for)

Instead I applied the FAFL technique (Face-Apply-float-let go (the book the book o holy book explains it))which just helps a tired mind deal with the here and now - to get through the panic attack - or rather, to let it happen with a smile on your face, and it may return again, triggered by a thought, a memory, a smell, being in a claustrophobic place...(whatever triggers it, it doesn't matter) and it comes back with less severity, and you apply FAFL (the book, the book...) and it may come back again and so forth until you no longer react. And it works.

I never took any medication. In hindsight, I think I should have taken some beta blockers just to calm my body. Give it a break. I don't think, personally, medicine is a cure; it is just a crutch - that's my opinion on the type of anxiety I had.

I can imagine the flying and boat trip scenario. I had to cancel many things - or make such a fuss about things v- ask 1000 questions to make sure I could go - I lost friends. I know how it can chip chip away at your confidence. How crap it can make you feel when you can't do things. The hospital thing is typical, so is travelling. You think you are ill; you are going to die so you want to get medical help quick. On your way to being cured, you will realise that it just doesn?t matter - you will not get scared of your physical symptoms. You will be able to fly in the future I am sure. There is no reason for you not to be able to. If you know how to deal with anxiety you will be able to do anything.

I have many nuttier things to say about my condition! (I use the word nutty just to laugh at myself) - just to show you how bad i was (no previous history of mental illness) - when it all started mid-20s.....it spreads - phobias spread -one of the 1000s of weird things I did was I was convinced I would have an anaphylactic shock from reaction so I wouldn't eat anything out of the house - restricted diet. I used to take a tissue out with me in case I had food in my mouth or on my tongue so I had to remove it in case it would cause a reaction. Then, i would have to make sure that the tissue wasn't one that left fibres in case these were left on my tongue to cause a reaction....AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe how I was. I have to say, poor bloody me. I would like to laugh at what in out myself through but I know at the time it is a living hell.

2 years ago, i travelled across the outback (again, who would have thought?!). I felt the panic come on - in the middle of nowhere - what if what if...but applied the FAFL technique and smiled when I felt my heart racing, dizziness, sore scalp, I even said "ha ha here you are again you little b*&^%rd!" But, i didn't fight it; i let it take over (FAFL)

Some people think anxiety, especially if it is triggered by things of the past is a way of your subconscious telling you that you need to take stock of things. In a way it is a positive thing. Hard to believe and so getting things off your chest for some could also be a cure.

For now, i think onepieceoflollipop is right - you could look after your body help your body to relax. I think anyone who has anxiety will know that the body and mind are indeed linked. If you relax the body it and your mind will be able to cope better. You could exercise or even steps like having a nice shower- looking after your body. I mentioned body scan - you start at your toes working your way up body, clenching muscles and then relaxing them - smile when you do it or say 'relax'. It will only take a few mins, you could do it when you are in bed at night.

If you are v anxious now, you could do some breathing - hand on belly/below rib cage - breathe in and your belly should go out - make it go out, breath in for 4 counts and then exhale for 4. Do this few times a night as many anxious sufferers shallow breathe so that their bellies go in when they inhale.

I would be happy for even one person to be helped from the above.

SO, I think I've said more than enough!

SeriousCat · 05/01/2011 08:39

ilovenewpyjamas I completely agree with you about Claire Weekes! I suffered from anxiety from the time I was a teen. My 20s were tough and I had an anxiety induced breakdown in my early 30s. Her book changed everything. Like you said you really have to absorb what she says and apply it, but having done it I can attest that it works. I haven't had a serious panic attack for 7 years now.

SeriousCat · 05/01/2011 08:41

bally2 sorry, forgot to say I do really hope you read her book and that it works for you too. there is an audio recording you can get as well which is very soothing. Best of wishes.

bally2 · 11/01/2011 13:57

Hi,

Sorry i havent been on. my laptop had a virus and was off being fixed over the weekend. Thank you all so much for taking the time to reply. i love new pjamas, thank you. Your so good to take the time to type ll this out to me..

I had a very bad this weekend. I had a vomiting bug on friday and of course this kicked off my anxiety as i thought i had something very serious! I was just a ball of anxiety all weekend. it was my brothers 30th on sat night and i had to leave after an hour :(

I went back to work yesterday and was a nervous wreck on the train there but i got myself some rescue remedy and its improved so much. I am defo going to order that book this weekend. its sounds amazing. your stories give me such hope that i will be cured one day. Fair play to you for beating this, its must be such a great feeling!

My inlaws are aware of my anxiety as i needed someone to talk to and they have all suffered with PND. I feel my sil is trying to pressure me into taking meds..Im not going to im going to try the book first and i have also booked in for some CBT starting next tuesday.

I feel a bit confused sometimes as to what is wrong with me..is it depression?? or is it possible to just suffer with anxiety. my in laws keep telling me i have PND. I dont feel depressed, just anxious..I dont know why but when i am like this i get very weak. I cant seem to stand up to sil. She is a psych nurse and when im talking to her she treats me like a patient. She nearly made me feel guilty on the phone over the weekend saying my kids deserve more than this...That i should take the tablets so they arent affected.

Sorry my post is all over the place..I cant wait to get my hands on the bible(Claires book!)!

Thanks again to you all, your amazing!!

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bally2 · 20/01/2011 20:51

Hi Guys,

I started CBT the other night, We just spent the first session talking about the last few years. ive had a tough 2 years so was basically just going through that. she gave me a relaxation cd which i have to listen to every night. im back with her in two weeks.

Ilovenewpjs, I kept meaning to order the book and never got around to it. i had search for it on my library website but it wasnt there. i was in the library the other day when i just randomly came across it!! I was delighted so have 'the complete self help for your nerves' if i find it as good as you did i will buy the one you recommended to me. ive only started so cant reaaly tell yet. dying to get into it tonight in bed! thank you so much for all your advice xxx

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lisapenn · 26/01/2011 09:10

Yes, I have. With special CBT techniques for anxiety that I used at home. Didn't go to therapy.

lovechoc · 28/01/2011 20:07

DH is a hypnotherapist and I told him last night that I have been very anxious and it's been building up for several weeks - feel like everything is just getting on top of me. So he recommended that I listen to a progressive relaxation CD of his, which is working a treat.Felt great after listening to it last night. Hypnotherapy works very well at helping you deal with anxiety.

But as someone else said, best speaking with your GP as it may be worth ruling out another problem other than anxiety.

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