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please help: trying to get some perspective

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namechangersad · 28/10/2010 09:49

(sorry this is long)

I am married (almost 6 years) and have a toddler (2). My DH and I have always had what you might call a tempestuous relationship. I suffer from anxiety/depression (think I might be bipolar but never formally diagnosed as such)

I seem to feel things enormously. So stressors in everyday life affect my moods hugely. In particular if we have a row, it can spiral me downwards until I am feel almost paralysed and unable to get on with even simple everyday things.

Every time there is a row I am convinced that I need to leave the marriage, that it will never work. I am incredibly self-critical and lacking in self-esteem. I realise that it must be difficult for DH to cope with this but I am self-aware and am trying to change this. (I was recently at CBT which was effective for the duration of treatment, but the effectiveness seems to have slipped away now).

For his part, whenever we have a row, DH is horrible. He uses name-calling and will use things that I have confided in him about my moods or anxiety to dig at me, which makes me feel dreadful (hence my "this must be the end of the relationship" when we do row).

BUT he says I do exactly the same as him (I don't think so, but can't see things in perspective because I seem so ruled by my emotion of the time).

I think he is transferring a lot of his anger onto me (always wants someone or something to blame for his temper). I do not think I do this (I certainly don't use name calling the same way) but sometimes he rants on and on and on until eventually I do snap and then I respond just as badly, if not worse. He sees the problems as being mine. (i.e. he's only ranting because I have done something wrong in the first place)

If we have had a row and try to recap it, its like two entirely different scenarios, so we only end up fighting about "who caused it". (This makes me feel like I am going mad. He often calls me a liar during this kind of exchange)

I realise this isn't helpful but he is so good at being able to turn things around and make them my fault I honestly don't know what way is up anymore.

When I am "down" I have a tendency to "self-medicate" and drink too much, which infuriates him. He also has a stressful job and finds it difficult to cope if I am not coping.

We went to counselling once and the upshot (pretty much) was that I was the one at fault: a fact he uses now to undermine me and refuse to have more counselling. But I just don't know. I really can't see the wood for the trees. Sometimes I think I am just such a needy difficult person to live with its no wonder he erupts.

I have struggled (if I am honest) to cope with life post-baby, as I had a successful career and have chosen instead to try and build a new business rather than return to it (as it was not family friendly) but I am finding it really difficult, lonely and feel unsupported. We have no close family/friend network.

How can I make some positive change when we both think its the other person causing the problems?

And should I get more help for my anxiety? I am on citalopram but it doesn't seem to touch the sides at the moment.

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namechangersad · 28/10/2010 10:00

I suppose I should summarise by saying that he seems to think that because I have mental health issues that affect my mood then everything is my fault, and although I do not think that is correct, I realise that I find it impossible to see things from his point of view, so maybe it really is me?

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NanaNina · 28/10/2010 14:40

namechangersad - when couples row, there is usually a "script" to the rows - bit like a play. Each one of the couple play their part and both are to blame. However many men (who seem to have very fragile egos) seem to have to believe that it is not their fault.

However I think you need to get your mental health problems more sorted (you say you think you have bipolar) it seems to me that you need a referral to a psychiatrist for a diagnosis followed by the right treatment for the illness.

You say you are lacking in self esteem and it sounds to melike your bloke is aware of this and so bullies you in a way. What are his problems that he has to be so controlling. What sort of childhood did he have - men like this often have a controlling parent (usually a father) and are overly criticised and they tend to behave in the "then and there" (not consciously of course but they oare often still nursing hurts from their own c/hood which make them more prone to temper loss and an imability to regulate their emotions)

To be honest I don't think you are going to be able to sort this out without some help from an objective person. Can't believe that the counselling ended in "it was your fault" - musthave been a really crap counsellor who was initmidated by your H and they DO unfortunately exist, or was this just your H's perspective that you accepted becauuse of your low self esteem. Small wonder he doens't want any more counselling because that just might change things and he won't be able to undermine you with the past counselling and it being all your fault, which is quite ridiculous.

Could you get some good counselling for yourself which I think might be very helpful. People who have m/h problems (and I am one of them) need partners who are supportive and understanding, otherwise you will go from bad to worse.

Ma end up in you two having to part unless your H is prepared to accept that ina row it is never just one person's fault and that you each have to take responsibilty for your part in the row, and never try to re-hash because this will just end in another row.

Hope you can find some emotional strength to deal with this difficult situation and sending you best wishes

namechangersad · 29/10/2010 18:14

hi nina, am posting from phone so wont go on at length (sausage fingers make me slow!) but i just wanted to say thanks so much for your really considered reply, which has given me a lot of useful food for thought. thanks x

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namechangersad · 29/10/2010 19:10

hi nina, am posting from phone so wont go on at length (sausage fingers make me slow!) but i just wanted to say thanks so much for your really considered reply, which has given me a lot of useful food for thought. thanks x

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zippy539 · 29/10/2010 19:36

Namechanger -also posting from phone so will be brief. I'm no expert on the relationship issue so wont comment but regarding your self esteem issues have you checked out mood gym? It's a free cbt programme which you do online and is recommended by mental health professionals as a self-help stategy. I'm only suggesting it because you said the cbt was useful in the past - this might be a good free 'top-up'! Hopefully when you are feeling more confident in yourself you'll be able to see the rest more clearly. I can't do a link right now but if you google 'mood gym' it'll come up at the top of the results.

Keziahhopes · 29/10/2010 19:40

Hi - like Nina says, I think getting yourself properly diagnosed would be helpful and the right treatment for whatever diagnosis you have. Also finding a good counsellor, seeing them by yourself might help you ...and the one you saw before is summed up well by nina. All the best .

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