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Fasting / 5:2 diet

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Not2bObvious · 25/06/2016 11:17

Shiny new thread for the BSD'ers. Best thing you can do is first read the MM bsd book do you get a full grasp of what the rules are but in a nutshell:
800 calories a day
No bread/pasta/potatoes/rice
No processed food, no alcohol
As close to no sugar you can get
Full fat, no low fat
Protein to keep you full
2-3 litres of water a day
10,000 steps a day (work your way up)
HIIT if you can 2-3 times a week

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Not2bObvious · 28/06/2016 11:53

And ate not are!!! Arg!!

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BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 28/06/2016 12:01

Egg mayo and salad for lunch :)

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BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 28/06/2016 12:02

Oh and thank yu for bringing up flax seeds - i actually remembered to put them in my smoothie this morning Grin

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Not2bObvious · 28/06/2016 13:14

Apologies for posting so much, it helps me keep on the straight. I've cancelled my meal out tonight, I'm going for long term gain over short term wants, tbh I didn't really want to eat out, very hard to stick to cals with diner food. So I'm having chicken & veg with mayo for dinner, that'll keep me on plan.

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H3l3naGraham · 28/06/2016 13:36

Hi! Anyone else having trouble on the app ie not on a phone call a ipad/laptop? I can't post on it, says there is an error?

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 28/06/2016 14:39

Not2b I think keeping to BSD when I can manage to eat again may be where it falls down. I'm envisioning an incredible hunger will descend that I will probably curb with carbs. But yy, you're right if I maintain control then that doesn't have to be the case Blush

I've managed some mangetout today. I might make some soup but I think it may be wasted on me. I'm very impressed that you cancelled your meal out. I think you win the Star for dedication this week!

H3l3na the app is working for me.

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Not2bObvious · 28/06/2016 15:09

Ahh thanks for my Star place, I think this is just one of those weeks where I have to remove rather than resist temptation? The kids will eat out with their dad while I walk around the shops (getting a few steps in, no walk/run today as piddling down here)
H3l I use the website on my iPhone, don't like the app so I can't comment but weren't you having grief like this before? Maybe uninstall/reinstall app?

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H3l3naGraham · 28/06/2016 15:26

I don't like the app either to be honest; but let me try + re-install it, thank you, doing this on my phone is shocking!

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BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 28/06/2016 16:04

I hate the app, always use the mobile site

Dinner is roast chicken and veg, have done my 2100 steps :)

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H3l3naGraham · 28/06/2016 18:48

This is what I have spent 1/2 day trying to post. Scrapped the app & am using the web based access instead.....Hardly profound but I am so sick of IT today, I am going to post it, hours late!!!

Hi thatswot - MM prefers the use of full-fat products, I can't bear full-fat milk though so have to admit to using skimmed in my occasional cup of tea - I have switched to light almond milk for porridge but can't face it in hot drinks, it seems to form a sort of custard but is fine in porridge and to loosen up the youghurt & seed mix.

Cheese is allowed but it's a matchbox sized piece of cheddar, or the equivalent. I do really recommend you read the book, it will honestly help with getting your head around the diet & the rationales. I use grated Parmesan on appropriate dishes, because you get 'more bang for your buck' taste-wise, you get that really cheesy intensity but use much less actual cheese. I also grate the match-box size piece of cheddar over certain dishes when I crave cheese as it goes a lot further. Full fat cottage cheese is on-diet & is heaps better than the diet variety.

Well done elvish - a great result, you must be very pleased!!

The whole think with flax-seed (& chia for that matter) is that they absorb fluid, so when they are processing through your gut, they expand & help move things along.... This is why milled is best or they come out as they go in.... Sorry (tmi), am pretty sure this is why they are in the diet to be honest, less nutrient as opposed to a bulking agent with any nutrient value as a positive benefit.

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H3l3naGraham · 28/06/2016 18:57

koKo - I am struggling after my hols too, but know that I have to get a grip ...... & to do this I have just grabbed a handful of my wobbly tummy......gripped it hard & told it to buckle on down & get on with losing some more fat!!!!

You have had a nice weekend away & enjoyed it & unless you want to start putting weight back on, remember why you are on the diet in the 1st place. A treat is a treat, focus forwards & remind yourself how much you want to lose & more importantly why. I posted about a young chap I met at a do for the Queen's Birthday a couple of week's ago ....he had lost 1/2 his body weight & kept it off for 2 years, I asked him how he coped. Reply was along the lines that it was hard to lose, he would have died if he hadn't & he sure as hell didn't want to get fat like that again....

Not suggesting for one minute that you are morbidly obese, but you did ask for a stern talking to & if he can do it, we can!!!! So no more Wine or Cake young lady!!!!!! Wink

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 28/06/2016 19:31

I struggled after my hols too, and I was pretty well behaved on holiday. I think just having a bit of sugar and bread set me off and I couldn't go back; I've had to do a total system reboot and start again!
Just finished my 2nd day totally on plan. Finished at 830 cals, so I'm really pleased. Even though its my second round and I felt like I knew it pretty well, I've made a few observations today which I thought I'd share in case they help the newbies. They are more like reflections of how I thought I was doing and how I was actually doing.....

  1. In these 2 days I have eaten more seeds/nuts than I would previously have chosen. I see them as a bit of a 'waste' of calories as they are high cal but small volume. However, they have really boosted my meals and I've felt full.
  2. I've had virtually no dairy, just 1tbsp yoghurt in my smoothie each day. Previously I would have made sure to include a portion of yoghurt each day (because I 'need' dessert) but actually I think it deprives me of other more valuable nutrition. I've also had no cheese although some is planned for tomorrow. I would have always had some when planning my own recipes.
  3. I haven't snacked at all. This shows me that I had probably been having more than I was thinking I was, because i was having nibbles throughout the day, and then attempting to claw back from meals.
  4. I think I'd reverted from 'plan mode' and back into 'diet mode' (eg focussing on calories and saving calories, rather than nutrition)- for example the meal I made tonight used a tbsp of olive oil, which in my head I was thinking was a waste. But I followed it to the letter and probably wouldn't have felt so full after if I'd scrimped.

I'm not usually one for following the book, but its really getting me back on track and I can see how things have been creeping in recently, even though I record everything, or so I thought. I'm finding it a positive experience for now and its giving me the boost I needed. I just think the balance of nutrition in the book must be doing me more good than I realised it would.
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Not2bObvious · 28/06/2016 19:32

Very good points made there H3l, keep just take it meal by meal, when you get a good day under your belt you'll feel much better. The alternative will be loosening your belt😉
I kept to my plan & thoroughly enjoy my chicken with dollop of mayo. I adore full fat mayo and can't believe the years I ate that awful LF muck. I even managed to remember to take my psyllium husk capsules! Kitchen closed at a shade over 800. Nil by mouth til tomorrow lunch. I'm on 2 meals a day at the minute, the later I eat the better.

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Elvish · 28/06/2016 22:11

I've had a decent day but I was craving bad stuff and I had to go to the local co-op for some things before dinner, which is a danger time for me with so much temptation.

Anyway, I did succumb but I found this stuff www.oppoicecream.co.uk which is fake ice cream made from air and unicorns or something...

It's actually quite nice, a but of a chemical aftertaste but I enjoyed it. And it has cured a craving this evening, so fingers crossed for another good day tomorrow. Finishing the day at 825 including the ice cream Shock

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Elvish · 28/06/2016 22:12

By the way H3, I can't get the app to post either.

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H3l3naGraham · 28/06/2016 22:58

elvish ....you posted unicorns......this is remarkable as they are meant to hold the key to infinite possibilities & sucess...... Perhaps we should all try your ice-cream!

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keeponkeepinon · 28/06/2016 23:41

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Not2bObvious · 29/06/2016 06:15

Morning all. Scales down to 11.1.6 so only .6 up on last Friday. 2 days until my official WI which will have been 7 weeks of a relaxed (some might say slapdash!) version of bsd. And 6 days to go until my holiday. If I can keep to the plan for the 6 days, it will be nothing short of a miracle🙏
Kids off school now & it's going to be a challenging day. Keep I hope you wake up raring to go, you can do it

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H3l3naGraham · 29/06/2016 08:28

Good luck not2b my fingers are crossed for you!

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BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 29/06/2016 09:15

I've stayed the same the last few days, but i havent had a poo for a few days (my normal - i go about once a week Grin ) so i reckon that'll make a difference!!

Breakfast was a smoothie - ff greek yog, blueberries, milled flax, almond milk and a stixk of celery - with a black coffee.
Working on my first litre of water now...

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notsoold · 29/06/2016 11:20

9 days and 9lbs lost!!! It has slowed down a lot this week. Most of the weight was lost last week but very happy.
beyond green yoghurt!!! My favourite!!!
I also had problems with the app these last few days. Unable to scroll ....
bear well done!

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Not2bObvious · 29/06/2016 11:25

Well done notso, that's a good chunk of change😉 Keep it up

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 29/06/2016 12:29

I hope your day is going well with the DCs being off school Not2b

Well done notso you'll see a big difference being 9lbs lighter!

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 29/06/2016 12:54

Morning everyone, I've been having app trouble too, but on my phone. Seems to be working better now. Thought I'd posted this morning but it doesn't appear to be here, but Apologies if it's a duplicate! I've managed to lose my weekend bloat, another 2lb down this morning. Really enjoying my food these last few days, just had halloumi salad with black olives from the book. Tonight it's salmon with lime and coriander crushed peas. Have a great day everyone!

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