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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

The 5:2 Thread Number 24 - Summer's still here so skip the snack and share the meal!

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BetsyBell · 22/07/2013 19:30

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon in August 2012, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like, or approximately your TDEE (see explanation below). Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average for a woman, 600 for a man, on those days.

You'll find on these threads we use a number of acronyms. If you're new to the threads, or Mumsnet in general, they might not make much sense.

WOE/WOL = Way Of Eating/Way Of Life. We use this term instead of "diet" as many of us see this as something to do in the long term.

MFP = My Fitness Pal, a website many use for keeping track of the number of calories they're eating.

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure, quantifies the number of calories you burn in a day. This measure is best estimated by scaling your Basal Metabolic Rate to your level of activity. TDEE is critical in tailoring your nutrition plan to desired fitness goals. Here is a link to a calculator to help you figure out how many calories you should be eating in a day.

ADF = Alternate-day Fasting, as it says on the tin, fasting every other day rather than 5:2.

NFD = Non fast day

NSV = Non scale victory

Michael Mosley has a website to accompany his book on the subject. Please go check them out, as he's the whole reason most of us are here!

I know a number of people lurk on this thread, as this is currently quite popular. Please just jump in and post if you're new- you'll find a lot of support here.

Here is a list of links to get you started with this way of eating. Please let us know if you find a new article or some other information online:

All our previous threads can be found by browsing through our very own fasting section of the site.

Another thread which breadandwine has started is a good resource for some of the tips and links that get lost in these big threads. In addition to sharing links, we try to condense some of our top tips for fasting there. Keep in mind, we all do this differently, so these are just tips, not rules. This might be a good place to catch up with us if you're feeling a bit lost!

frenchfancy has a recipe thread over here, please post any low-calorie recipes there so they don't get lost in these bigger threads!

If you've been at this a while and are moving on to maintaining your goal weight, there is a thread here to discuss that.

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

There's a link to the aforementioned Horizon programme here.

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview by Dr Mosley himself, very informative if you're just starting. (I highly recommend this for an overview)

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Something to consider if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing. Most of us are learning this way of eating as we go along. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous threads, and they've been very helpful.

A HUGE THANK YOU to Greeneggsandnicht for putting together all this info and resources into one concise OP text, much appreciated by so many 5:2ers!

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

OP posts:
Lizzabadger · 25/07/2013 09:35

Wow BB. You look amazing!

Dotty342kids · 25/07/2013 09:47

BsshBossh you look bloomin' amazing! Your hair really suits your face, you look in great shape and really youthful. Can I put in a very well meant plea though? As you know, my in laws are indian and both sister in laws insist on wearing black / brown / grey / navy etc but their (and your!) colouring just suits amazing bright colours so please, please wear them as now that you're looking so fabulous you should be "out there" showing it all off Grin

NotAsTired · 25/07/2013 09:54

Oh yes bssh, totally agree with dotty re: colours. Smile

JB30 · 25/07/2013 10:10

Wow Bssh you look amazing! Totally different woman, I wouldn't put you at 43, at least 10 years younger.
Totally inspired! On a 16:8 nfd, travelling at the min so easy enough with a decent cup of costa

BsshBossh · 25/07/2013 10:18

Blush thank you all. delilah I started February 2012 - 70lbs lost so far, 15lbs to go. Dotty, Tired I hear ya!

Talkinpeace · 25/07/2013 10:47

To those struggling with eating "up" to TDEE .....
if you are not hungry, don't eat
BUT
make sure you keep your fluid intake up - even of water - as you need to keep listening to the signals from your body

AND
with the summer holidays, and not having the school run to keep our timetables in order it is even more important
NO SNACKING
even if the kids are ....
If you have little ones who need the example, have some chunks of carrot or cucumber with them

I plan to try to do 16:8 most days over the summer
oh, except that DH cooked bacon this morning. FAIL on my part!

and yes, BsshBossh is inspirational : proof that losing weight makes you look younger!

mumofcrazynamedkids · 25/07/2013 11:09

ok, officially betsybell and bsshbossh are my new inspiration with their fabulous photo's.

I need to start doing some more exercise, fasting all well and good, but toning is definitely required, also need tips yoga exercises for neck tightening youthfullness, but think I'm far too dyspraxic and uncoordinated for yoga.

will get bf to take some photo's this weekend and use them as before shots to track any shred related changes.

attempting back to back fast, successful fast day yesterday, (although scales still show me at 10 12 as I was last week, but I had lost 2 pounds last week, so it's my usual bouncing, and averages at 1 pound a week.

am hoping though to push things with another day and a half of fasting, so next week starts to get me back towards all time low and lower.

please though, can we stop talking about chip shop chips? I'm heading up north tomorrow and they do amazing chips up there!

Breadandwine · 25/07/2013 11:17

BsshBossh you look amazing - what a pretty young woman you are!

(Am I allowed to say that?)

A total inspiration for those wishing to lose weight!

mttum · 25/07/2013 11:50

Agree with everyone else bssh, absolutely brilliant!

NameoftheRose · 25/07/2013 12:06

Fantastic photos, I feel really inspired. I have photos of me atop Fleetwith Pike in the Lakes, weighing two stone more than I do now. Taken almost exactly a year ago. God knows how I heaved all that weight up there. Imagine going for a climb and deciding to put two stone of extra weight in your backpack. For a laugh like.
I'm wearing the same t shirt today, as in the photos and it is very loose on me now whereas then it clung tightly to every bulge. Lovely pictures [embarrassed].

The photos gave me the kick up the backside to start exercising and eating healthily. I've started 5:2 to shift that last stone.
This is my third week and I've got less than half a stone to go.
Healthy BMI first time for years!!!

BTW I look much younger without the extra weight, I seriously get mistaken for ten years younger. I look much prettier too (I mean that modestly, I don't mean I'm an Angelina look alike, just vastly improved on me). So losing weight, if done sensibly, doesn't age you.

mumofcrazynamedkids · 25/07/2013 12:17

name of the rose go on, post your pics!

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 25/07/2013 12:17

Those photos give me inspiration too! My BMI is about 40 and I am 41. So am hoping in another 14 months or so, I too will be down to a BMI in my 20s. It averages out at about 1lb a week weight loss which is about what I think I am losing (no scales).

Can I ask a couple of qns:

  1. What is 16:8?
  1. The recent articles that skipping breakfast and not breaking your fast is bad for you have been discounted here, but one thing puzzles me.
All the research behind ADF etc points to lowered blood pressure and lower insulin levels when the body is fasting. yet in the recent articles they say that when fasting your body's blood pressure and insulin levels increase, hence why it's good to break your fast to reduce the strain on the body.

Which is correct?

mehefin · 25/07/2013 12:25

Just seen your photos Bssh - amazing! I feel proud on your behalf !

BetsyBell · 25/07/2013 12:31

MrsArch There's loads of research links on the Tips and Links thread, I recommend you plough through some of those to reassure you that this is a good thing according most sensible research.

This Forum has some excellent science links too (Scroll down to The 5:2 Lab section)

There's also plenty of positive testimonials on these threads too... very few people report insulin spike symptoms (dizzy, shaky etc), there have been some, but not many.

16:8 is a way of daily fasting - fast for 16 hours, eat during 8 hours - ie limit eating to 2 meals. There's lot of evidence to suggest this is an excellent way to keep healthy. Again, links in the T&L thread.

OP posts:
mehefin · 25/07/2013 12:35

MrsArch
16:8 means waiting 16 hrs after your evening meal before eating the next day.

Southeastdweller · 25/07/2013 12:37

Looking fabulous Bssh and much younger than 43. It really shows yet again how extra weight ages people. Very well done, lady Smile

EagleRiderDirk · 25/07/2013 12:49

Bssh great to see the pics. you look fantastic and so much younger.

swallowedAfly · 25/07/2013 13:05

just marking place as i haven't managed to fast for a while - holiday and since being back. must get back on track soon!

weight seems to be sitting steady between 10.2 and 10.3. if i could get back on board i could probably see the magic 9 within a few fasts.

motivation where art thou? stress and alcohol is my downfall at the minute. gets to mid afternoon and i really fancy a drink.

Talkinpeace · 25/07/2013 13:18

SAF
no booze before the sun is below the yardarm : 6pm at the earliest
unless its a party

smellylittleorange · 25/07/2013 13:23

Hi All,

Just logging on for motivation as Fast day 4 is a little bit taxing, and I found it!! BssH AMAZING!! Lovely! Well done.

Im off to a posh hotel Sunday - hate what i'm wearing think I look old and chubby - but there will be plenty more posh hotels and chances to wear nice flattering clothes as long as I can stick at this.

One.Day.At.A .Time

Smile
NotAsTired · 25/07/2013 13:33

mrsarch. I suffer from low blood sugar problems: dizzy, shaky, mood swings. Or rather I did. Since I started 5:2, I've not had any major problems (apart from around totm) and it's pretty amazing to me that I don't need to eat between breakfast and lunch and between lunch and dinner. I don't get shaky, dizzy, moody and the feeling of being out of control. Whereas in the past, I used to. My DP can't believe the change in me.

Talkinpeace · 25/07/2013 13:38

MrsArch
Sadly the reporting of the research was (as is often the case with science stories) very poor.
I have clinically low blood pressure (85/60) and controlled fasting has not given me any problems at all.

HellesBelles396IsDeeplyUncool · 25/07/2013 14:25

I, too, have noticed far fewer symptoms of hunger.

Partly, I think, because I am eating less refined-foods so I am falling off fewer sugar-cliffs.

Also, fasting has shown me that I do not need to preventatively eat. By this I mean that I would have a cereal bar at break time at work because I would be worried about making it through til lunchtime without feeling hungry.

Now, though, I am not afraid of being hungry and, slowly, I am training myself to think of hunger pangs as thirst pangs.

Fluids are the key. Calorie-free if possible though I do like the occasional ice-pop.

thinkcan · 25/07/2013 15:48

Wonderfully inspiring photos from all who took the trouble to post their before and after pictures - I think so far it's TIP, BetsyBell and Bssh. Thank you so much for continuing to keep us motivated.

EagleRiderDirk · 25/07/2013 16:13

FD fail. In fact entire week fail. I'm either sabotaging, need a break or aunt flo is being a bitch.

So much to OHs delight Chinese takeout is on the cards tonight. One massive blowout and then tomorrow onwards its back on the horse properly. I dont honestly think I found my first fast as hard as Mondays or todays.

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