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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

The 5:2 Diet Thread number 18! Breaking out the summer wardrobe?

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GreenEggsAndNichts · 22/04/2013 10:51

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon in August 2012, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like, or approximately your TDEE (see explanation below). Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average for a woman, 600 for a man, on those days.

You'll find on these threads we use a number of acronyms. If you're new to the threads, or Mumsnet in general, they might not make much sense.

WOE/WOL = Way Of Eating/Way Of Life. We use this term instead of "diet" as many of us see this as something to do in the long term.

MFP = My Fitness Pal, a website many use for keeping track of the number of calories they're eating.

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure, quantifies the number of calories you burn in a day. This measure is best estimated by scaling your Basal Metabolic Rate to your level of activity. TDEE is critical in tailoring your nutrition plan to desired fitness goals. Here is a link to a calculator to help you figure out how many calories you should be eating in a day.

ADF = Alternate-day Fasting, as it says on the tin, fasting every other day rather than 5:2.

Michael Mosley has recently unveiled a new website to accompany his new book on the subject. Please go check them out, as he's the whole reason most of us are here!

I know a number of people lurk on this thread, as this is currently quite popular. Please just jump in and post if you're new- you'll find a lot of support here.

Here is a list of links to get you started with this way of eating. Please let us know if you find a new article or some other information online:

First things first, here are links to some of our previous threads: most recent one before that another one!

Another thread which breadandwine has started is a good resource for some of the links and tips that get lost in these big threads. In addition to sharing links, we try to condense some of our top tips for fasting there. Keep in mind, we all do this differently, so these are just tips, not rules. This might be a good place to catch up with us if you're feeling a bit lost!

frenchfancy has a recipe thread over here, please post any low-calorie recipes there so they don't get lost in these bigger threads!

If you've been at this a while and are moving on to maintaining your goal weight, there is a thread here to discuss that.

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

There's a link to the aforementioned Horizon programme here.

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview by Dr Mosley himself, very informative if you're just starting. (I highly recommend this for an overview)

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Something to consider if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing, btw. Most of us are learning this way of eating as we go along. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous threads, and they've been very helpful. Sorry if I haven't given credit where it's due, but it was just enough of a job getting all the links re-copied and back into one post.

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

OP posts:
BetsyVanBell · 26/04/2013 16:33

tougholdbird Flowers Well blimming done!!! How have you lost so much more quickly! More info please Grin

tougholdbird · 26/04/2013 16:40

BVB thank you! Miso soup at lunch, fish or prawns and veg in evening or ready meal when not got time to cook. And following advice on here about avoiding carbs etc.

Dotty342kids · 26/04/2013 16:51

Good grief tougholdbird that's amazing. I've been doing the same amount of time as you, from what sounds like a similar starting weight and I've only lost 8lbs! C'mon, how've you done it?!

Dotty342kids · 26/04/2013 16:51

have you 5:2'd it? Or 4:3'd it? Congratulations!

tougholdbird · 26/04/2013 16:58

5:2 with mini fasts - and every time i have thought about snacking i hear a stern voice in my head (TIP style) telling me not to do it. I have to admit I have been gobsmacked at the way it has come off. Someone once posted on here something about your body tries to help you get back to the right weight, well I put masses on when I gave up smoking and had the DCs, but before that I had always been quite slim. I think this WOE is right for me and really wanted to say thank you to all you proactive posters. And that was my longest ever post on 4 years of mumsnet!

BetsyVanBell · 26/04/2013 16:58

tougholdbird Now I want to be 9something [pouts] Grin [puts down biscuit]

tougholdbird · 26/04/2013 17:01

And you will be BVB!

BetsyVanBell · 26/04/2013 17:08

I wasn't that bothered before, but now it feels like a challenge! I wish I had your willpower tob, my subconscious simply blows raspberries like a petulant child to the old no snacking advice. Just checked out the calorie content of the enormous and delicious biscuits I was just eating, not good at all Blush. [pulls self together as remembers I didn't have lunch]. Ah well, lovely healthy dinner planned - mackerel fillets & salads :) (and wine).

greenfig · 26/04/2013 18:04

Argghh!! I came on here to check in as am supposed to be fasting, am not hungry but am home alone & I know there are mars ice creams in the freezer! I was feeling so inspired by you all that I was taking strength to go & find something to do instead & then what is the topic? Minimal cals in mars!!! What to do....
Well done on all your fab losses, esp congrats to bsh for target & tougholdbird Come on, share your secrets, I'm stuck on losing these last few lbs Grin

akarucker · 26/04/2013 18:06

So I had a job interview two months ago (didn't get the job) and had a different interview yesterday - didn't get that one either! But, it's not all doom and gloom because I wore the same outfit yesterday as the first time (ok, maybe it's a bad luck outfit now!), and on the first interview I remember wishing I could unbutton my trousers during it, and yesterday I was wishing I had a belt because I was afraid they were going to fall off me!
Ooo - long sentence, but you get the point!

BsshBossh · 26/04/2013 18:07

greenfig I never eat ice cream on fast days, only on non-fast days. Is that motivation enough for you? Smile

BetsyVanBell · 26/04/2013 18:27

greenfig Oh noo, you can't eat ice cream on a fast day. Not having those floodgates opened. [sternface]

BetsyVanBell · 26/04/2013 19:00

aka Woo excellent NSV! Smile

akarucker · 26/04/2013 19:04

bvb I just had to google that! Non Scale Victory - love it, and yes, perked me right up after a not so great weigh in yesterday. (It's that bloody sugar again: no sugar = weight loss, sugar = no weight loss!! It's a demon I tell you!!). I think I'll focus on these NSV for a while.

MelanieCheeks · 26/04/2013 19:24

Ah yes, should point out I was devouring that Mars ice cream on a non-fast day.

Tougholdbird, that is fan-bloody-tastic, well done you!

BsshBossh · 26/04/2013 19:38

tougholdbird forgot to say congratulations to you. We started 5:2ing at the same time? I started last week of January. I've also lost 19lbs since then Smile.

tougholdbird · 26/04/2013 19:51

Thank you for the congrats - and yes, Bssh sounds like we are on a parallel track, well done to you too! It helps when people start to notice as well, good motivation! I turn 50 next year and buoyed up by this weight loss, I am now planning new wardrobe and possible blue streaks in my hair ( for charity and for fun) before I sink into frumpy old age Smile.

fluffypillow · 26/04/2013 20:09

Fantastic success stories here. Very encouraging to us newbies Smile well done everyone.

Had my second fast yesterday. Lasted from 9pm Wednesday until 7pm Thursday, then had 500cals. I didn't feel hungry at all, but at about 6pm, right in the middle of a parent/teacher meeting I started to feel a bit 'spaced out'. I don't know what the Teacher thought, especially because DH was fasting too, and felt the same Blush We were both struggling to concentrate, so maybe we will pick our fasting days better in future !

Feeling great today. Had some lovely 'non diet' foods, and can't believe I can lose weight eating this way Confused I look forward to next week when I will see if I have lost. I hope so, I am really enjoying it so far Smile

greenfig · 26/04/2013 20:37

Have held strong against the mars bar ice cream & don't even fancy it now, hurrah!!! Have sadly caved in to a lge glass of pink wineBlush The boys are away on rugby tour & dd has a friend for pizza, onesies by the fire & Charlies Angels, post dance class & school disco. God they have it good Grin Still, a fast followed by a glass of wine has to be better than a day of toast, sandwich for lunch, bottle of wine & large carb based supper followed by munchies of ooh, maybe cheese, ice cream, toast or chocolate!!! That was the old days, never do it all in one day anymore!! Would actually make me ill!! Have a lovely w/e all.

peplum41 · 26/04/2013 20:57

Hi chapettes. Lots of lovely 5:2 news on the threads today, although sad about the about the wee hamsters, postie.
tougholdbird glad you decided to delurk, and what restraint you showed leaving it until 19 lbs down. A testament to just reading the threads and getting on with it. Mind you if we all did that there'd be nothing to read! I wonder how many more like you there are out there?

*well done greenfig

GreenEggsAndNichts · 26/04/2013 21:09

Way too cold for ice cream here today! :) I had some friends over and we were in and out of the house, trying to sit in the sun, then running for cover as the hail came in, etc.

Have done two fasts this week, tomorrow might be a half fast as the evening will be full of wine and lovely food.

OP posts:
peplum41 · 26/04/2013 21:13

Oh stupid phone, I'm sure you got that greenfig, enjoy your wine. I've had my fast day tea, it was just soup and veg, kind of tempted by a bottle of becks blue, only 50 odd cals according to mfp. Glad there's no mars bar icecreams in the freezer or I'd want one of those too.

fluffypillows he he, the teacher probably thought they were boring you. Those pesky weird side effects do wear off after a few weeks. I used to get headahes, insomnia, mood swings, a bizarre restlessness- make the most of the positive effects such as increased energy because that seems to have dissipated also. Fasting seems normal now and I'm only about 8 weeks in. No longer feel the need to keep busy, can just chill. House is starting to deteriorate again though!

greenfig · 26/04/2013 21:15

Oh yes I meant to say sorry to hear about the hammies PMPC Sad
Is your dd ok?

peplum41 · 26/04/2013 21:19

Oh hi greeneggs, you're such a veteran IF,do you eat cake and whatever you fancy or are you really virtuous like brad pylon types?

LexingtonBear · 26/04/2013 21:51

Sooooo cold after a good fast day, third this week. Hung on til 5 and then had a boiled egg and later an m&s ready meal from the (new?) delicious and nutritious range. Most of them seem surprisingly low cal and are pretty nice, tho not as filling as my usual standby, the Linda McCartney lentil pie. I never thought I'd feel so enthusiastic about lentil pie!

Anyway, am taking myself to bed to avoid the cold and the lure of wine. Strangely don't fancy the sticky toffee pudding DP is supportively and noisily scoffing, but best take myself out of temptation's way. Here's to a happy and slightly less restrained weekend. 1.5 stone down, 2 to go....

Well done all today's fasters!