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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

5:2 Diet Thread! Number sweet 16!

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GreenEggsAndNichts · 22/03/2013 20:05

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon in August 2012, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like, or approximately your TDEE (see explanation below). Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average for a woman, 600 for a man, on those days.

You'll find on these threads we use a number of acronyms. If you're new to the threads, or Mumsnet in general, they might not make much sense.

WOE/WOL = Way Of Eating/Way Of Life. We use this term instead of "diet" as many of us see this as something to do in the long term.

MFP = My Fitness Pal, a website many use for keeping track of the number of calories they're eating.

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure, quantifies the number of calories you burn in a day. This measure is best estimated by scaling your Basal Metabolic Rate to your level of activity. TDEE is critical in tailoring your nutrition plan to desired fitness goals. Here is a link to a calculator to help you figure out how many calories you should be eating in a day.

ADF = Alternate-day Fasting, as it says on the tin, fasting every other day rather than 5:2.

Michael Mosley has recently unveiled a new website to accompany his new book on the subject. Please go check them out, as he's the whole reason most of us are here!

I know a number of people lurk on this thread, as this is currently quite popular. Please just jump in and post if you're new- you'll find a lot of support here.

Here is a list of links to get you started with this way of eating. Please let us know if you find a new article or some other information online:

First things first, here are links to some of our previous threads: most recent one before that another one!

Another thread which breadandwine has started is a good resource for some of the links and tips that get lost in these big threads. In addition to sharing links, we try to condense some of our top tips for fasting there. Keep in mind, we all do this differently, so these are just tips, not rules. This might be a good place to catch up with us if you're feeling a bit lost!

frenchfancy has a recipe thread over here, please post any low-calorie recipes there so they don't get lost in these bigger threads!

If you've been at this a while and are moving on to maintaining your goal weight, there is a thread here to discuss that.

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

There's a link to the aforementioned Horizon programme here.

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview by Dr Mosley himself, very informative if you're just starting.

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Something to consider if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing, btw. Most of us are learning this way of eating as we go along. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous threads, and they've been very helpful. Sorry if I haven't given credit where it's due, but it was just enough of a job getting all the links re-copied and back into one post.

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

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akarucker · 27/03/2013 14:12

Oooh, it put mine at a whopping 10lbs over my target weight! I guess there are some perks to being almost 4 stone overweight - even websites take pity on you, and get realistic!

Dawndonna · 27/03/2013 14:18

Lost last week and despite my sister staying for four days I stayed the same. I'm doing an extra fast day this week, just to get going again.

Southeastdweller · 27/03/2013 14:38

Thanks Itsaboatjack Smile. Yes I will be doing consecutive days again with no hesitation. I just need to be careful to do them when I know I'm going to be busy. Feed day today and have had two quite calorific meals but I still feel really light. It's such a nice feeling.

TheEarlyBird · 27/03/2013 14:55

Hi and goodbye - am heading off for Easter (though just "us" so hopefully not too much temptation). Dukan put my weight at 71.5kg whereas I'm aiming for 70 so I still have 5kg (11lbs) to go please him and 6.5kg (14lbs) to go to please me! It's a little depressing seeing it in pounds - am kind of used to my European kgs. Still - must be cheerful as am already in my BMI range - just.
Think my problem is slightly different to most of yours - I can resist chocolate, crisps and biscuits, I'm not much of a carb eater but, here's the but - show me a glass of Wine or a g&t and I'm completely de-railed. I think it must be doing quite a lot of damage to my weightloss but I do love my glass of something (although only on a Fri/Sat/Sun night.)

tomorrowweeat · 27/03/2013 16:01

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Carefully prepared my lunch, weighing and measuring everything to give 2 250 portions. Ate one then when I took my plate back to the kitchen before I could stop myself ate the rest! So now what to do? Try to go without eating anything else today. Have a 200 cal dinner and call it a mini fast. Or eat a proper dinner tonight and redo my fast tomorrow. ??? Any advice would be very much appreciated.

ELR · 27/03/2013 16:08

I would try to go without eating if possible. See how you go if you succeed great if not keep it small and call it a mini!

BetsyVanBell · 27/03/2013 16:12

I'm having a really good fast day today which is great as I wrote off Monday's attempt by pigging out on nuts. The scales were unexpectedly low today too which gave me a boost. This may be my last fast day for a while unless I manage to pop in a Saturday one. Actually, that could work - I promised myself the kids I'd bake hot cross buns on Friday and appear to have bought quite a lot of butter today sooooo I might really need a fast day on Saturday! Not that freshly baked wheaty goodies with lashings of butter are my downfall or anything Hmm.

Thanks all for your target comments, I might attempt to try on my wedding dress to make a mid-twenties-me size comparison!

BetsyVanBell · 27/03/2013 16:23

tomorrow Oh that's a tricky one. Can you keep busy enough to not eat more today? Can you manage with just another 100 cals? I'm not very strict with the 500 and regularly end up 600 to 700 and it seems to be working nonetheless! I think I would try and keep to as low cals as possible for the rest of the day and consider it a fast, but make sure that my next one is a proper one (that's me this week!)

Daisy1407 · 27/03/2013 16:23

Hi All
i havent been on here much this week
Did my fast day Monday i tried those "Slim a Noodles" they are deffo not for me - i will not be having them again - bit like chewing hard jelly

Another fast day for me today and tonight meal is jacket potato with chicken salad been holding all kcals for tonight

Then 2mo in my eyes - EASTER has arrived im gonna have afew days withough tracking calories and im gonna enjoy meals out and choccies here and there - Its holiday season after all.....

Then back to 5:2 from Tuesday

ill be logging back on to read through the forums over the next few days but wishing you all Happy Easter x

BetsyVanBell · 27/03/2013 16:32

That Dukan calculator gave me 8 more lbs to lose! Maybe that's about right. Should I set myself a target or is it ok just to see what happens? (I'm thinking out loud here folks! I know it is ok!!) What I'm really enjoying is that I feel like someone who is of normal weight and that I'm on a par with colleagues I'm previously thought of as properly slim. It's lovely not to feel overweight anymore actually :)

I'm having quite a euphoric fast day! (Hence the overuse of exclamation marks...)

tomorrowweeat · 27/03/2013 17:06

LOL - go Betsy, go :)

Thanks to you and ELR for the advice.

wildwater · 27/03/2013 17:23

Fasting today...amid enormous upheaval (we are selling a business, moving house - well, actually becoming homeless for a while! - and planning to move countries soon). Life has been crazy-busy-upside-down but this WOE rules over all.

My eating is very much tamed compared to where I was before 5:2. No more urges to eat the entire fridge/cupboard. The 'worst' thing I have done lately is drink a few bottles of beer but hot weather and hard work... I deserved them I think!

Today I will have my famous frozen banana smoothie around 11.30am, then the fabulous 'Telegraph' ramen soup later on.

Good luck to all you losers. PS Still haven't worked out how to use Smileys List...

BetsyVanBell · 27/03/2013 17:44

wildwater Phew that sounds hectic! You need a smiley square open bracket [ smile square close bracket, without spaces so not like this [ smile ] but like this Smile

Unless you're on a phone... iphone has a list you can tap if that helps.

swallowedAfly · 27/03/2013 18:21

sorry - haven't caught up as i've had a really long day at work and another one to come tomorrow. not moaning as i then have most of two weeks off of work so i'm lucky really.

have fasted today - haven't had anything to eat and i'm actually not planning to today. weird thing is i have a really bloated tummy and slight pain in it as if i've over eaten rather than hunger pain Confused going to listen to my body and just not eat at all today.

aim is to go to sleep asap as i'm knackered and don't have my son this evening. doing staff training tomorrow and will need my wits about me to keep my nerves in check. we also have a celebratory reception and buffet lunch at work tomorrow following a recent success so i will be able to indulge in lunch without feeling guilty.

sorry to be me me me! nothing to give today i'm afraid. good luck to all wednesday fasters - tomorrow is really close Smile

BsshBossh · 27/03/2013 18:22

Itsaboatjack if you think of 16:8 as giving you a 16 hour fast then that might strengthen your resolve not to eat when your eating window closes. It helps me. So far I've not eaten outside my window because I'm thinking about the health benefits. I like snacking eating at night and am not a natural breakfaster so 2-10pm really suits me. By the time my window closes at 10 I'm nearly ready for bed Grin.

But as I mentioned before, I eat whenever I want at weekends as that's family/social time.

virginposter · 27/03/2013 18:33

wildwater good to see you are coping with all the stress and sticking with this woe - well done.

For smiley's list: put a square bracket [ then type the word grin [grin then close square bracket [grin ] but make sure there are no spaces, and that will give you Grin hth

Dotty342kids · 27/03/2013 18:55

ooh gosh today's been an eating day and I have eated! Huge plate of home made shepherds pie and peas for my tea. Really didn't need the seconds, or pudding........ or large bar of Dairy Milk too - oops.
Thank goodness for another fast day tomorrow....

Itsaboatjack · 27/03/2013 20:06

That sounds like a good way forward BsshBossh, think I'll give that a go from now. I'm just on my break from work so having dinner now so it would have been about a 8.5 hr window today which is close enough I reckon.

BsshBossh · 27/03/2013 20:15

Itsaboatjack best of luck - hope it helps control the tendency to overeat.

HopAndEggRoll · 27/03/2013 20:54

Dukan puts my ideal weight at 9.7 so aiming for that. Nearly 3 stone to lose .

Was a feed day today and have prob eaten more than I should but loads less than I would have before so I'm heading in the right direction.

Talkinpeace · 27/03/2013 20:55

Well according to Dukan, my true weight is 56kg.
And my actual weight is ..... 56kg !

Tired after a long day with a really interesting CPD evening marred only by stodge central buffet - so I had an omelette when I got home!

wohmum · 27/03/2013 21:33

So I've been following this for 3-4 weeks now and losing a steady 1lb a week. Finding fasts easier than expected most days.

I had a really good fast on Monday and was due to fast today cos I'm working from home tomorrow, which I find much tougher than being at work .

Struggled with a major headache this afternoon and feeling a bit nauseous so succumbed to a bag of crisps after home made soup at lunch.

Had a couple of chicken thighs with broccoli for dinner, so overall not too bad, no where near as good as I'd have liked.

Also a bit worried about a long Easter weekend as that's time for family breakfasts and lots of choc!

It's great to read everyone's stories and experiences - I need some tips to get through this weekend - help!

GreenEggsAndNichts · 27/03/2013 22:20

wohmum I'd suggest just having your last fast day as close as possible to the weekend (Friday?) then forgetting about it until the next one (Tuesday? Whatever is realistic). You'll probably find you don't want to eat as much as you normally might for a holiday; I know for Christmas I self-regulated even when I honestly hadn't planned to. I just couldn't physically eat the normal portions of roast I could have in previous years.

Just try to be calm, remember you'll be back on your fast days next week, relax and enjoy a bit of chocolate. If you're terribly worried, try a half-fast- leave one day where you don't eat until supper. I am planning one on Friday, and probably a proper fast on Saturday, because I know I'll be making a lovely roast on Sunday and we'll have leftovers on Monday.

I have to say, this WOE does make me plan my menus more than I ever did previously!

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GreenEggsAndNichts · 27/03/2013 22:22

Also I wanted to thank everyone again for their kind words earlier this week. I was able to successfully fast the next day after my first failed fast on Monday. :)

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sweetkitty · 27/03/2013 22:44

Good second fast day. Had 400 cals just had a boiled egg before bed to hopefully stave off the hunger pangs.

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