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Would the current climate and cost of living put you off having a 3rd child if you were on benefits?

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mugcup · 30/08/2022 16:29

As about.what are your thoughts ?

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mugcup · 30/08/2022 17:49

@itsgettingweird I absolutely agree with you, sometimes people find themselves in difficult situations and we definitely shouldnt judge but there are times when you look a group of young mum with multiple kids up the town in McDonald's and you just know that they have zero intentions of looking for work. Yet they always seem carefree and having a great time with their cohorts. Maybe I'm
Secretly bitter and twisted as I'm knackered with a massive workload at work and 50 million piles of ironing to tackle lol

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TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2022 17:52

mugcup · 30/08/2022 16:42

Thanks for your reply. I'm talking no job at all, solely reliant on benefits. Partner doesn't work either. It's a mum at my child's school, who seems pleasant as far as I can tell but she seems to know how to play the system (if you know what I mean) she's having her 3rd baby which is of course lovely news but I couldn't help but think about the cost of living and all th fuel prices etc it made me feel a bit almost irritated that some people on decent wages will struggle yet some on benefits just keep plodding on.

Having a third child is not "playing the system". She will not receive more benefits for having another child. The government capped it at 2 children @mugcup.

mugcup · 30/08/2022 17:54

@MassiveSalad22 she's a young mum approx 22/23 with a 6 year old and 3year old, from a well known rough estate. She could absolutely be a multi millionaire for all I know but I doubt that she is. She is a pleasant girl I'm knocking her but I genuinely know she and her partner don't work.

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Jets121 · 30/08/2022 17:54

Yes
unfair on the kids & unfair on the rest of society

knackeredagain · 30/08/2022 17:56

Bit of a judges thread this, but no I wouldn’t. There’s a benefit cap which means the same money will have to stretch further. She won’t get any more for having a third - so it’s hardly playing the system.

Anon50000 · 30/08/2022 17:58

Goad. Goad.Goad.

MrsR87 · 30/08/2022 18:02

mugcup · 30/08/2022 17:31

@MrsR87 were the same. I have two older children, would have love a 3rd but it would make everything a big more of a squeeze and if I'm working full time I like to be able to have some luxuries to make it worth while. A 3rd child would mean we would be working hard to just live.

It’s a shame isn’t it but I feel needs must! Ours are both under two (my and DH are not getting any younger!) and when I return to work my childcare bill will be £2400 a month…my take home pay is approx ££2450…I work 60 odd hours a week! And, goodness knows how much things will increase over this year! I’m already worried with the two under two and that’s with a good wage!

abovedecknotbelow · 30/08/2022 18:03

Depending on what posts you read on here we are high earners and can't afford a third child. So no.

mugcup · 30/08/2022 18:09

@MrsR87 it's definitely going to be a tough year with everything going up so much, I'm genuinely dreading the winter fuel costs and Christmas. But I think that's my point if people on good wages are struggling I just can't understand why people would continue to have more children. I know that's my opinion and according to MN I'm probably the worst human ever for even saying that but I suppose it's my age talking

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itsgettingweird · 30/08/2022 18:09

mugcup · 30/08/2022 17:49

@itsgettingweird I absolutely agree with you, sometimes people find themselves in difficult situations and we definitely shouldnt judge but there are times when you look a group of young mum with multiple kids up the town in McDonald's and you just know that they have zero intentions of looking for work. Yet they always seem carefree and having a great time with their cohorts. Maybe I'm
Secretly bitter and twisted as I'm knackered with a massive workload at work and 50 million piles of ironing to tackle lol

Just think of it this way.

Those kids will grow up. Then what? They have no job and the CB and UC childcare element ends.

They have no career to fall back into or get back into.

Remember that what's happening today will shape what happens in the future.

Snugglemonkey · 30/08/2022 18:12

Definitely! I wouldn't have any babies if I were on benefits right now. I am not on benefits and I won't have a third. I just feel it would detract from the quality of life of the other two too much and that isn't fair. You need to be wealthy to have 3 kids really.

OldWivesTale · 30/08/2022 18:14

Yes. I wouldn't advise anyone to have children right now. Not least because of climate change. This is going to get worse and worse and our children will bear the brunt of it. Have you seen that a third of the whole of Pakistan is submerged in water?

mugcup · 30/08/2022 18:18

One example of playing the system
For who ever asked is pretending to be single parents while their partner lives with them! I am no expert but I'm sure there are people that know some loop holes in the system. !

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chillipenguin · 30/08/2022 18:19

mugcup · 30/08/2022 16:42

Thanks for your reply. I'm talking no job at all, solely reliant on benefits. Partner doesn't work either. It's a mum at my child's school, who seems pleasant as far as I can tell but she seems to know how to play the system (if you know what I mean) she's having her 3rd baby which is of course lovely news but I couldn't help but think about the cost of living and all th fuel prices etc it made me feel a bit almost irritated that some people on decent wages will struggle yet some on benefits just keep plodding on.

Oh right so you didn't want advice for yourself but to start a judgey thread about someone else.

FourTeaFallOut · 30/08/2022 18:21

mugcup · 30/08/2022 16:42

Thanks for your reply. I'm talking no job at all, solely reliant on benefits. Partner doesn't work either. It's a mum at my child's school, who seems pleasant as far as I can tell but she seems to know how to play the system (if you know what I mean) she's having her 3rd baby which is of course lovely news but I couldn't help but think about the cost of living and all th fuel prices etc it made me feel a bit almost irritated that some people on decent wages will struggle yet some on benefits just keep plodding on.

How does play the system work when benefits are capped at two children?

mugcup · 30/08/2022 18:22

@chillipenguin call it what you want, I was asking a question.

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chillipenguin · 30/08/2022 18:22

mugcup · 30/08/2022 18:22

@chillipenguin call it what you want, I was asking a question.

In the family planning section? You're not planning someone else's family.

mugcup · 30/08/2022 18:27

No, Not planning anyone else's family. I'm working hard to support my own. However I asked in the family planning section as others are planning their families and I was wanting their thoughts.

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FourTeaFallOut · 30/08/2022 18:31

I think you should take your chip on your shoulder to AIBU.

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 30/08/2022 18:32

mugcup · 30/08/2022 16:42

Thanks for your reply. I'm talking no job at all, solely reliant on benefits. Partner doesn't work either. It's a mum at my child's school, who seems pleasant as far as I can tell but she seems to know how to play the system (if you know what I mean) she's having her 3rd baby which is of course lovely news but I couldn't help but think about the cost of living and all th fuel prices etc it made me feel a bit almost irritated that some people on decent wages will struggle yet some on benefits just keep plodding on.

You don't get any further uc for a third. Maybe you should keep your judgey beak out of other people's wombs.

Scaevola · 30/08/2022 18:32

"However I asked in the family planning section as others are planning their families and I was wanting their thoughts"

The topic is 'family planning' in the sense of contraception, which is why it's nested with the other health topics, and if you look at what else is in here, the other threads are about contraceptive choices

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/08/2022 18:33

There’s not enough money in the world to make me want a 3rd child!

Thinkbiglittleone · 30/08/2022 18:37

I was under the impression that benefits got capped at 2?

What are they claiming for the 3rd?

I personally wouldn't, but I wouldn't pass judgment on someone who's situation I didn't know.

LobeliaBaggins · 30/08/2022 18:38

I wouldn't have even one child on benefits.

LobeliaBaggins · 30/08/2022 18:39

ah this is about someone else. I don't care what others do.