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Spring / Summer 2026 music thread

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northerngoldilocks · 12/03/2026 16:36

Time for a new thread as the old one is filling up and think we can claim its spring now!

Come and talk about music lessons, choosing instruments, exams, auditions, specialist schools, orchestras or whatever other music activities are going on. Everyone is welcome, from those with total beginners to those whose children are studying music at advanced levels. Ask for advice or share successes or struggles.

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Siriusmuggle · 28/08/2026 22:11

Mine went to Chets for 6th form- the bulk of the fees are covered by the MDS scheme. One of the biggest advantages was the school orchestra, they play at a high standard in school and that becomes the norm. He did get offers everywhere he applied but I don’t know if that’s down to the school although he really progressed well with the tutor there.

Ubertomusic · 28/08/2026 22:20

Compsearch · 28/08/2026 22:03

I got into conservatoire without a JD or specialist school @horseymum - these things don’t exist where I’m from - we had more the equivalent of the county/borough music service - and still to this day plenty of people get into conservatoire and then the profession from my home city. I agree it doesn’t really happen in the rest of the U.K. though, probably because JDs etc do exist and so most talented kids must end up there somehow.

Interestingly I was talking to someone recently who runs a harmony course over the summer for incoming music undergrads at Cambridge, to get them up to scratch/try to level the playing field between those (limited few!) who have had proper harmony teaching vs those who have just done the music A level (which isn’t enough really for their purposes) which seems a great idea, and may be useful info for prospective applicants on this thread!

I had a chat with a Ukrainian lady whose DC attended JD, private school and specialist school in the UK. They were baffled by the lack of harmony teaching and general level of music provision even at JD and DC moved back to Ukraine...

herbaceous · 28/08/2026 22:20

I’m sure I know lots of people who’ve got into conservatoires without JDs. Would seem unfair otherwise…

thirdfiddle · 29/08/2026 00:04

horseymum · 28/08/2026 20:17

I guess you have a point. You can get to art school just from doing art in the curriculum though. no one to one lessons. The one-to-one music lessons are not enough in most schools. I suppose I wouldn't expect core PE or exam PE to get you into a performance sport career so I'm probably be unreasonable to think a child should be able to get into conservatoire without junior department input or specialist music school. Almost need a foundation year option but it wouldn't really help as auditions are so early.

You can get to art school just from doing art in the curriculum though.

Ooh, hadn't thought of art. I don't think I know anyone who's gone to full on art school. A couple who've gone to do illustration-type courses, but they also did a lot outside school.

thirdfiddle · 29/08/2026 00:20

I know you can get to conservatoire without JD or music school obviously; there are generally a small number from our local youth music groups, and they wouldn't be in that if they were at JD as it's also on Saturdays. I'm sure they do have good teachers. The local 6th form college I think is a lot better for music than the schools, they have some excellent teachers visiting or connected.

chocolateisnecessary · 29/08/2026 09:48

No JD in Wales anymore and it’s feeling more and more like a disadvantage. I remember kids there getting a lot of audition prep and chats re choices.

Compsearch · 30/08/2026 12:30

Hi all, I was wondering if any of the more experienced parents had any thoughts on whether my DS’s schedule is too full for next year/is this normal for a child doing lots of music plus other stuff?

He will be in year 4. Atm he is signed up for choir x 3 per week, swimming (30 min lesson), football (1 hour), cubs (1.5 hrs), plus morning practice (20-30 mins). He’s got 2 free weekdays after school. If it was up to me he would quit cubs - it’s after one of the choir rehearsals so will be a very long day - but he’s adamant he wants to do it. I suppose we can start and see how it goes?

StuntNun · 30/08/2026 13:55

Compsearch · 30/08/2026 12:30

Hi all, I was wondering if any of the more experienced parents had any thoughts on whether my DS’s schedule is too full for next year/is this normal for a child doing lots of music plus other stuff?

He will be in year 4. Atm he is signed up for choir x 3 per week, swimming (30 min lesson), football (1 hour), cubs (1.5 hrs), plus morning practice (20-30 mins). He’s got 2 free weekdays after school. If it was up to me he would quit cubs - it’s after one of the choir rehearsals so will be a very long day - but he’s adamant he wants to do it. I suppose we can start and see how it goes?

One of mine had something on every day of the week for a while. It's what he wanted so we went with it.

chocolateisnecessary · 30/08/2026 15:23

I think that’s fine. See how it goes? Sounds like my daughter’s schedule at that age!

thirdfiddle · 30/08/2026 16:17

I agree with see how it goes. We found DD naturally dropped things over time.

MockCroc · 30/08/2026 19:54

its child specific - some cope well with lots on and others don’t. If he’s happy I wouldn’t worry about it. My youngest was in y4 last year and has more on than this and loved everything. Other kids would have been less keen. FWIW all my kids have absolutely loved beavers, cubs and scouts and got so much out of them. it can be a really nice change of pace from music and other activities that have a degree of pressure attached to them. From a personal development and sheer fun perspective they are brilliant.

Compsearch · 30/08/2026 20:02

Thanks all! DS is annoyingly inconsistent - will often moan about doing stuff but then will not contemplate giving anything up, and my mum is always saying she thinks he’s doing too much which makes me doubt myself.

@MockCroc I know you’re right and he has absolutely loved Beavers, but he’s moving to Cubs this term and it’s on a Friday night 7-8.30 (!) after a week of school and a 2 hour choir rehearsal…his bedtime is 8-8.30 normally. So I fear it could be challenging, but we will see!

thirdfiddle · 30/08/2026 21:05

Oof. That's quite an evening. Could go either way, either it'll be his favourite evening of the week, or he tries it and learns it's too much. Are there any alternative Cubs groups on different days?

DitheringMusicParent · 30/08/2026 21:59

@Compsearch I'd guess you need to look at what Saturday is like, after a Friday like that... DS9 (would be going into Y5 in the UK, starting Y6 work next term here) is finally learning the value of cutting down on non-essential commitments as the intensity increases for music and schoolwork. But we had multiple years where a few days a week were a write-off because of the number of activities the day before...

Ubertomusic · 30/08/2026 22:05

I think it also depends on the commute, if everything is close by then it's less exhausting. Going on the tube from the cathedral on a Friday night is no fun tbh. Also, I found it easier if there was a short break between activities, having a snack and hot choc always helps :)

thirdfiddle · 30/08/2026 22:17

I remember some days when I was little where I'd have a sandwich and change into sports kit sitting in the boot of the (estate) car en route between activities. Some parts of that might not meet with approval these days 😂 I think it lasted about a year before I decided I really wasn't very good at the sport and it wasn't worth the trouble.

Compsearch · 31/08/2026 07:11

Yes everything is local except choir, but that’s 30 mins on the tube+10-15 min walk, and it would be straight from there to cubs 😬. I’m just surprised the cub leaders are happy to be doing it on a Friday night! All his friends from school go so I don’t think he would agree to move, even if he could get in - waiting lists are mad. Will give it a go and see if we can all cope.

Hope everyone is ready for the start of term!

LemonVerbenaGeranium · 31/08/2026 10:18

I’m mainly a lurker on this thread, but just jumping in to say to @Compsearchthat my Ds was (still is) a bit of an over committer in terms of all the things he wanted to keep doing at that age. The brilliant thing about cubs (which was a hassle for me also to fit into the weekly family schedule) is that it provides opportunities for residentials at a young age. Ds did nights away with beavers, cubs and scouts, which increased in duration and taught him packing responsibility, so now he’s utterly chilled at doing music residentials. He joined NCO at 13 (just after Covid) and didn’t know a soul - we are in the north and he goes to the local secondary and we’d never even heard of NCO. But he went off completely confidently and had a blast and I do think a lot of that was down to cubs and beyond. He’s been in NYOS this summer again not knowing a soul and being the only English player, and again had a great time. So I think the hassle of cubs is worth it for the skills it brings - they are more robust in their expectations of the kids than anything else they do at that age.

hidingmystatus · 31/08/2026 18:44

Ubertomusic · 26/08/2026 15:07

Ooh I'm very interested! Don't know where to start though 😁 Are the standards for bachelor's higher than in the UK? Are there more options for joint first or combined music+academic studies or classical+jazz? How many ensembles do they do? Are job prospects any good?

Starting here. Standards in the conservatoires are the same or lower - we said she had to get into one of the top five or she couldn't go (tuition is immense and scholarships a necessity). Universities will mean (in US) that you are spending less than 1/3 of your time on music. DD is a composition girl, not a performance one. I think performance standards are about the same, but that I don't know for sure.
I don't think the US does joint degrees as often, but we weren't looking at that. You can do classical and jazz, I think.
Job prospects...in the current climate, as good/bad as here. Depends on your instrument. Rare breeds are easier, as ever. Composers largely go for teaching with composing on the side.
If you PM me with specific questions, I'll see it sooner - I'm a bit here and there at the moment! Sorry for delay.

hidingmystatus · 31/08/2026 18:48

yodaforpresident · 26/08/2026 22:56

Well done on the PhD post for your DD. Very interested too. DD is considering a double major with music and something else and also conservatoires. Did you find that they had good recognition/ appreciation of UK music extracurriculars?

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I think they did have a good appreciation - most applications required a list of what you'd done and what you knew. We had to curtail it significantly to fit the word counts - in the end there was so much from GCSE/A-level that we restricted it to A-level only, and the non-school stuff (instruments, singing, musical theatre) was summarised very hard. DD is a composer, so performance wasn't really an issue. Theory is much better taught here than in schools there!
If you have specific questions, PM me - I'll see it quicker.

hidingmystatus · 31/08/2026 18:50

thirdfiddle · 27/08/2026 07:55

Welcome back and congrats to your DD! I'm really curious, if you've done a performance degree what sort of thing do you research for a PhD? Does she have a research proposal, or does that come later? Must be fascinating.

She's a composer, so the proposal is a large piece (but she also wants to research composing for voice).
Thank you!

Ubertomusic · 31/08/2026 20:09

Thank you @hidingmystatus !

CelloMumFlums · Today 08:42

Thank you @horseymum for NYO audition advice- super helpful! Does anyone know how smartly they need to be dressed for the assessment day? Best of luck to everyone with auditions coming up. I will be happy never to hear the orchestral excerpts again!

horseymum · Today 13:39

No dress code for the NYO audition. It's a long tiring day, so something comfortable and 'them' rather than trying to be anything different. Mine will probably wear jeans, a t shirt and a hoodie. It's likely to be hot in a uni as well. I'm sure I saw kids with black concert gear, though that might have been for conservatoire auditions. Whatever suits you best.
We are also tiring of the excerpts, and hoping to be rid of them. However, what will probably happen is moving seamlessly onto the next set for other auditions. The pieces might get a rest and some new ones started. Looking forward to getting some concerts in the diary for the new term.

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