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Poolside chat- continues here 😁

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Glittertwins · 02/10/2024 19:37

Did I get this done right??

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Teateaandmoretea · 09/10/2024 07:49

They don’t turn a hair at blood in swimming pools by the way if something does start bleeding - dd2 went through a phase of having constant nose bleeds. They just fished her out and gave her a tissue. I remember her arriving one day at a gala with one and a team manager worrying it would be treated like sick. It isn’t. What a delightful post 😂

itsgettingweird · 09/10/2024 16:42

I've always said swimming pools are like a bar of soap - self cleaning 😂

Hellocatshome · 09/10/2024 17:02

Its best not to think about what's in swimming pools to be honest.

itsgettingweird · 09/10/2024 17:55

Hellocatshome · 09/10/2024 17:02

Its best not to think about what's in swimming pools to be honest.

😂😂

Glittertwins · 09/10/2024 18:32

Yes, the other bonus about being so short sighted was that I couldn't see what was on the bottom of the pool (not being able to see the clock for an extra few seconds rest was highly useful 😆)

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Teateaandmoretea · 09/10/2024 21:01

Hellocatshome · 09/10/2024 17:02

Its best not to think about what's in swimming pools to be honest.

😂😂🤢🤢🤢

Dd1 has a school gala tomorrow at the absolutely grossest pool in our region. It made me feel queasy sitting on the side just operating the laptop and ‘announcing’ at the team gala we hosted there.

Teateaandmoretea · 09/10/2024 21:03

@Glittertwins unfortunately I have 20/10 vision like RAF pilots.

Porseb · 11/10/2024 12:49

DD smashed her fingers on the wall a couple of days ago and broke her nail (you can see part of the bed).

She was told to let it dry out and tape while in pool - it looks really sore .... but she's swimming a meet today and tomorrow.

Glittertwins · 11/10/2024 13:30

Painful! It's probably going to sting a bit if she's racing tomorrow - she'll not want be changing stroke rate to avoid it either.

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itsgettingweird · 11/10/2024 17:45

Ouch!!! Hope she has a good meet.

Ds had a TASS into last night and then trained this morning.

We are now 250 miles from home as my brother gets married tomorrow!

Home Sunday and back to training and work Monday 😴

StrawberryThief1930 · 13/10/2024 16:39

Hi, first time posting in this section. My DS has swam for a while but only just started getting somewhere. He's gone from barely qualifying for counties to hopefully qualifying for regionals & beyond (going by his times/ranking).

Meet season well underway. Slightly concerned we've entered too much for him to achieve his best times. he wants to compete in all strokes & all distances!

anyone got any advice on best poolside snacks/nutrition? he gets v hungry at meets. when i swam years ago we used to eat raw jelly but im hoping for some better ideas than that!

itsgettingweird · 13/10/2024 17:14

Carbs with some protein before racing. Protein (choc milk is a good one) for recovery.

They should eat their main meal 3 hrs before racing.

This is where the problem can lie if they race last race off morning session and straight into warm up and racing one of first events of afternoon session.

In that case it's best for a big breakfast and then smaller snacks inbetween. My ds eats carrots, Pepperami, cheese cubes, eggs, some pasta.

It's very hard to race to the maximum if your body is using energy to digest a big meal.

It's why at bigger meets they tend to pick their best events and use the schedule to plan.

That's great he's doing so well and I'd say follow coaches advice on what to enter. If he's younger he may still be at the stage where entering everything is recommended.

StrawberryThief1930 · 13/10/2024 20:45

thanks - lots of good information there. i have a lot of learning to do! very good info on digestion energy. i hadn't even thought of that!

he's tween kind of age. I'll see how he does at the next big meet then review it as we go i think. and yes speak to his coaches.

thank you

itsgettingweird · 13/10/2024 20:59

No worries. Hopefully some of the more experienced parents (I've learned from 😂) will have some advice too.

It's always slightly different here because my ds is a para swimmer so doesn't have a huge amount of events to juggle (7 for his classification and he only can do 6 of them). Over a weekend that leans itself to a good break between swims to plan meals and recovery.

At his big big meets he'll only do 3 and possibly add 100m back or fly. And they are usually over 4/5 days so even easier to plan 😂

Glittertwins · 13/10/2024 21:07

We have early / big enough breakfast - sometimes bacon sandwiches, sometimes weetabix and banana depending on what and when he's racing. Lunch stuff also depends on what and when - usually pasta and sauce and he'll eat bits of it as and when necessary but he's quite a bit older than tween and knows when to eat in relation to his races.
Any snacks in between time should be light and easy to digest - can't race well if the body is trying to digest food - malt loaf, homemade flapjack, dried apricots, dried mango, fresh banana (easier said than done in keeping it undamaged!!) and plenty of water for hydration.

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Glittertwins · 13/10/2024 21:08

PS - I remember the raw jelly cubes too!!!

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Hellocatshome · 13/10/2024 21:43

Oh God yes raw jelly. That trend seems to have died out. A nutritionist friend of mine said Rice Crispie Squares are excellent gala snacks but as per usual this seemed to coincide with DS declaring he doesn't like them. He also said one of those little bags of Haribo is good to eat while in marshaling but that coaches don't like him saying that. Although to be fair really its just the same as eating jelly really.

Eccle80 · 13/10/2024 21:55

Similar to the others, early breakfast of porridge or weetabix with banana and blueberries, then they take some kind of sandwich but wouldn’t necessarily eat in one go, then to graze on rice cakes, flapjacks, fruit, and I do normally give them a few sweets for emergency energy boost though I know their coach wouldn’t approve!

In terms of events, at open meets we try to go for 2 events per session, maybe 3 if they were only doing one session or they were shorter events, keeping an eye on what the girls events in between are so they aren’t too close together (knowing something like a 100 or 200 fly won’t have many heats so won’t take long!) I do see some entering huge numbers of events, but I think once you have got past the early days it is hard to do a lot of events well, plus it gets expensive!)

With counties and regionals it’s harder as it depends on the schedule, but again it may be worth not entering everything they have times for and focussing on their better events

SkankingWombat · 13/10/2024 22:03

We go for a heavy carb dinner the night before then wholemeal toast with nut butter and a yoghurt drink for breakfast. She can't eat much if it's a really early start without feeling sick, but if it is a later start then I'll try to get a much bigger breakfast into her such as eggs and beans on toast.

For during meets, the skill is in maintaining a delicate balance of never full and never hungry IMO. I tend to send sushi, as it mixes carbs and protein and is easy to not go nuts with and have a snaccident (ie can follow an easy direction of "have 2 or 3 pieces straight after each race"), plus has the added bonus of being one of her favourite foods. Something like a pot of pasta would disappear in one sitting and it wouldn't be until she felt full and bloated that she'd remembered she needed to ration it out! Bitesize chunks of chicken or cheese are good for this too, and wraps or sandwiches cut into much smaller than usual pieces could work as well. I pack a small amount of crudités and a pot of fruit, a milkshake and/or a carton of fruit juice for if she feels she's flagging, and a token amount of sweets plus the sushi and another bite sized protein. She likes the protein yoghurts in the squeezy pouches too. Our senior coaches are against copious sweets at anything other than our 'for fun' internal galas, and warn against creating sugar highs and crashes, so to much disgruntlement, DD gets less sweets than she'd like. Sadly but understandably, nuts aren't allowed, otherwise I'd send a good amount of those (she tends to have some in the car on the way home though!).
Lots of people bring flapjacks and homemade cakes (particularly banana bread), but DD doesn't like to eat these during a meet for reasons she can't articulate, so they are out for us. Ditto bananas as a whole fruit.
I have tried sending her with salty sugary squash to rehydrate with, but she only wants water, so that's now what she has. I figure she gets plenty of salt from the food and sugar from the other drinks and odd sweet, so haven't pushed it. There was an episode of Sliced Bread on Radio 4 recently about sports drinks and the conclusion was the best choice was 1/3 fill the bottle with their favourite fruit juice, 2/3 water, then add salt until you can just start to taste it (you need carbs, sugar, water and salt in the drink).
I tend to only give a sessions' worth at a time so everything is eaten in balance, refreshing her supply in the breaks.

At the breaks I usually give a smallish portion of marinated fish with 1/2 a pouch of mixed grains (the supermarket version of Merchant Gourmet. I have the other half) plus some salad with a dressing. I try to pick a different style of flavour each time to make it a bit more interesting eg Mediterranean, Pesto, Mexican etc. There never seems to be enough time to properly digest it ahead of the next warm-up, so I am wary of giving her too much. Our Counties pool is just across the road from a Greggs, so she did have a steak bake one day this year when her gap to the next race was bigger... She never complains she's hungry whilst we're there, but will always need a big dinner once home!

The jelly probably wouldn't do much these days, as I think it is all now very low sugar and full of sweeteners? If someone has found a brand that still makes the jelly of my childhood, I'd love to know please for pudding (rather than swimming) purposes! Neither me nor DD1 like the taste of sweeteners, so it has been reduced from occasional treat to happy memory.

SkankingWombat · 13/10/2024 22:50

Events-wise I don't usually enter DD in more than 2 events per session. Possibly 3 if it is two 50s and a 100 (and the 100 isn't fly!) or 1 if it's a tough one or the time is much wanted. A friend has a rule of never more than 400-450m total in a day, which doesn't seem like a bad strategy for younger swimmers. DD recently swam 750 in a day over 4 events and managed it well with good times, but was totally broken the next day. Thankfully, she only had one 100 on the second day, but didn't move from a ball on the sofa once she got home until bed time except to eat... It was hard to avoid due to what she was chasing and our meet calendar, but I wouldn't make such a big distance in a day the norm, despite it coming good in the end.
She enters a mixture of various distances and strokes, making a decision for each meet based on what she likes, what she hasn't done in a while, what she's still chasing a time for and what might be likely to yield a medal. I have noticed even at her younger age that her best events change or are added to, so I wouldn't want to pigeon-hole her just yet into a single category (either by distance or stroke). Some of the swimmers I coach have had their parents do this, and even at 10/11yo those children often don't feel confident swimming anything else, made worse from the gap between their #1 and everything else widening due to lots of practice at that vs little in other events. We are an IM club, so the coaches actively encourage a range of events, but we don't insist on telling the swimmers/parents what to swim. Some ask for and listen to the advice, and others stick rigidly to their idea that 'Pamela's a breaststroker, so that's what she'll swim'.

I agree with PPs that for Counties consider strategically not entering events they have little chance of doing well in to save it for their better events. DD is unlikely to enter any of the breaststroke distances in January despite qualifying, as she isn't going to get anywhere with them. She has other events that should yield some good results and that she cares about more, plus will be doing various relays on top - it is better she saves her energy for those.

Teateaandmoretea · 14/10/2024 07:39

I’m sure that I haven’t got nutrition right at all at meets.

My two tend to say they feel sick first thing, take snacks for the day as that’s what they want. Then dd2 last time was wandering around with a massive portion of chips mid morning after her session 1 races 🤦🏻‍♀️ 😂.

StrawberryThief1930 · 14/10/2024 09:32

one problem i can see coming up is multiple race days back to back.

eg Friday night Club gala 200m distance x 2
Saturday league gala - probably 3 races say 2 x 50 1 x 100
sunday - meet. 5 x race over whole day. 200 IM, 50 breast, 200 breast, 100 back, 50 free.

too much! this is an actual weekend scheduled coming up.

im going to buy some of the suggested food mentioned above.

last gala was 2 doughnuts, small haribo, lion bar, pasta (not eaten!), crisps and banana. more protein i think.

StrawberryThief1930 · 14/10/2024 09:36

breaking down that sunday, rationale is:

200 IM need a time for. He likes 100IM but its not swam at regionals.

50 breast - he's good at

200 breast - doesn't have time for

100 back - good at

50 free - good at

maybe we should drop the 200 breast? but 200 IM is a bit of a killer to start the day off with.

Glittertwins · 14/10/2024 10:40

They'll get there themselves with the food eventually. I saw a big change with him at nationals this summer compared to last year. Last year was full on locust mode including desserts but this year very much thinking of what he was racing the next day and when it was. Did give in to temptation once on dessert on the last night but not surprised as the restaurant was very good.

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Eccle80 · 14/10/2024 11:31

That does sound a lot in one weekend, we wouldn’t normally have a meet and a league in the same weekend,

in terms of his events, does he already have county times for the 3 you’ve said he is good at? How are they spaced throughout the day? If 200IM, 50 breast and 200 breast are all in the morning and he already has a county time for 50 breast, it may be better to focus on the two 200s and give him more rest, but see what his coach thinks if you are worried it’s too much.

i agree with Glittertwins, over time and experience they learn what works and when they are best eating throughout the day

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