NYO 2022

[Musiccake]

My DS is preparing to apply for NYO.
He said the application form is quite hard to fill as so many questions to answer (Like mini essays for about 10 topics).
He just has started looking at the excerpts, also needs to upload contrasted pieces too. DS knows he is not good enough yet but as he is interested in NYO inspire too, he will give it a go!
It would be great to hear about either NYO or NYO inspire's experience.

Any logic as to who has heard and who hasn’t? I looked again at the info and it says results ‘on or around 24 September’. Will it be Monday now do we think? Not massively anxious as it was a bit of a long shot anyway but all the same ....

What’s happened in previous years?

@FalalaLondon

Any logic as to who has heard and who hasn’t? I looked again at the info and it says results ‘on or around 24 September’. Will it be Monday now do we think? Not massively anxious as it was a bit of a long shot anyway but all the same ....

What’s happened in previous years?

My dd heard she was accepted around 5.30 (viola). I think all of her friends have had successful/unsuccessful emails now. I'm so sorry you haven't heard yet!! It's a stressful wait even when unlikely (this is my daughter's 3rd attempt - even when she thought she wasn't ready it was a tough wait!!)

My ds also accepted yesterday for violin 5.30ish (on first attempt so very shocked!) perhaps you should call Monday to chase, that’s not fair leaving you hanging!

I emailed and got a very quick and apologetic response to say my DC had fallen through the admin gaps and so we will get our email on Monday. I imagine it’s a no as they presumably wouldn’t overlook a successful candidate. Not sure why we now have to wait until Monday and they couldn’t email today as it’s their error. But anyway .... we assume unsuccessful.

DC didn’t get a place but has a place now automatically on NYO Inspire. The more playing / meeting people / having fun, the better in our book so will definitely do that.

Audition was good experience and we’re grateful for it.

just resurrecting this thread to ask about NYO Inspire. DD applied for this programme over the summer (she's probably not of the standard for NYO proper yet) and was accepted. We were emailed about an initial online meeting on 30/09, which was then postponed. It's all gone very quiet since then. I know different players will be contacted about different local opportunities, but just wondered if anyone has heard much before I think about contacting them directly.

TheTurn0fTheScrew
I haven't heard from them neither. But when we had audition feedback, the email mentioned about NYO inspire.
[We will be in touch very soon with further information about this year’s programme of activity]
So we will wait. Like your DD, my DC anyone who applied NYO must have G8 but the program is for G6-G8, so it is very interesting to know how they are going to allocate their activities. Residential Orchestra or ensemble sound great but I hope it does not clash with my DS's other commitment.
I there anyone experienced NYO inspire in the past?

thanks @Musiccake. Sounds like things aren't quite up and running yet. I was starting to worry we'd fallen off a circulation list.

my DD hasn't sat G8 yet (in fact due to our local music service being pretty shambolic from the start of the pandemic onwards still hasn't sat the G5 theory that she should have taken in March 2020!), and I don't know if she'll eventually make the exceptionally high standards required for NYO, especially as she has the unfortunate combination of playing a popular instrument with not many seats. But she does really love ensemble playing and so was hoping there might be a bit more action than we've seen so far. Fingers crossed for the future.

@TheTurn0fTheScrew You can enter and sit the theory yourself, there's lots of info on the abrsm website. It doesn't need to be through a teacher. Maybe doing that might feel like she is taking some steps forwards after a chaotic time.

oh, that's interesting @horseymum, thank you. I don't think she's going to be ready for G8 until the summer, at least partly because she neglects to practise the exam material when there's far more interesting ensemble stuff to work on. If her teacher hasn't sorted things out by the start of spring term we'll look at entering her ourselves.

@TheTurn0fTheScrew
Sorry, I thought your DD applied for NYO!
If your DD is not keen for theory, you can have a look at Trinity G8.
My DS took ABRSM G8 but G7 he did Trinity as he didn't have theory G5 at that time. Trinity has wider choice of repertoire and also have Orchestral excerpts choice for additional test which was really useful for NCO, NYO audition. Just a thought.

NYO musician's page was updated.
Many congratulations for anyone who gained a place!

Mine didn't get a place. He knows about 20-25 who are in but he says he doesn't know of any year 13s who got a place unless they were previously in. Is there an element of wanting continuity after the last couple of years? There are some choices he also finds surprising.

To show how nuts it is- he’s now got 6 conservatoire offers including 5 scholarships.

Was he in inspire @Siriusmuggle?
My dd is Y13 and first year NYO but she showed up to everything Inspire that she could. I do think they push the % that have done Inspire activities.
She has 4/5 conservatoire offers. One unconditional but no scholarships. She’s at state school and the one she was rejected from were very very negative about that in the interview!! She wasn’t impressed and I don’t think she would have accepted even if she had an offer. RNCM has gone from bottom to top of her list now after very positive audition. Previously her top 2 were TL and RCS.

He wasn’t eligible for inspire since they made it state school only. He used to go when they were open to all.

Oh I spoke too soon - she did get a scholarship from one today - seems a bit last minute!!
I think that Inspire is great for providing orchestral experience to musicians that wouldn't otherwise have the opportunity. I'm not musical and have daily regret that I didn't really know anything about junior conservatoire, specialist schools etc. until my daughter had been learning for a long time and it was too late to start down that route. I worry that she has been disadvantaged somewhat. We lucked out in a way that my daughter's teacher moved overseas and her new teacher happened to have been in NYO as a teen and encouraged her to try. She didn't get past the first round twice but has been motivated to keep trying as a result of being in Inspire so it's been great for her and I guess she is the kind of musician it is aimed at. NYO does seem to be providing more and more spaces for musicians who have been in Inspire. I looked at the stats and it has gone from 17% to 47% over the past 5 years.

@SlippersAndCake - that's a brilliant success story on both counts: NYO and the conservatoire offers - congratulations!

My son (Year 12 ) didn't get in, and didn't really expect to but found the experience worthwhile and will try again next year. He's state school and so eligible for Inspire - I need to find out what's going on with that. It's so hard for state schools to compete with the advantages private schools have, particularly when kids get to an advanced level. Music services / county youth orchestras etc also often stop having anything to offer after a certain point (although great when younger). I think it's absolutely right that Inspire is directed towards helping those who literally don't have those advantages.

@Siriusmuggle - what do you mean, it's nuts? Do you question NYO's judgement in choosing the best players? I understand it's disappointing (particularly with the years missed due to Covid) but it's a fact of life in the business. You can play wonderfully, but there might be someone out there who just plays that bit better. And you have to suck it up. I think it's really important for the kids to realise that. It's a hard road. No doubt your DS has already had wonderful opportunities and will have more at whichever conservatoire he goes to.

I just mean it seems a bit illogical in some ways. NYO are saying he’s not good enough yet conservatoires think he is! It’s for the best as he really needs to devote some time to passing his A levels otherwise conservatoire is a moot point anyway!

@Siriusmuggle They are not looking for the same things though. It's not necessarily a case of who is/is not good enough for NYO.

If he got to the second round then he is good enough!! Not gaining a place is not the same as not being good enough. NYO are trying to put an orchestra together so it will be as much about how the kids work together, how they take direction etc. I do think that kids that show up for Inspire are going to have an edge here because the panel will already know their work ethic.
& I'm not just going on my daughter's experience. She met a boy at the recent course who went to a BYMT course over the summer with about 24 hours notice just because NYO had said they were looking for musicians. I'm sure that having that level of commitment is going to help!
Getting to the second round of auditions means you are an excellent player, but they can't put everyone in!!

Conservatoire is going to be so much more about personal development. Yes, they are also going to get orchestral playing experience. But it is so much more than that!

Good luck to your son with his choices! Does he have any idea yet? My daughter is very stressed about the deadline fast approaching! Offer day at RNCM this weekend will hopefully help but the scholarship is also making the other conservatoire look pretty attractive now too!!

@SlippersAndCake today his preference is RNCM but it varies! That’s always been his aim but a big RCM scholarship has turned his head a bit. Offer holder days for both in the next week. I think he’ll probably go RNCM when it comes down to it. He’s spoken to his tutor and he’s seeing his head of department for guidance today too. I think RNCM will probably be the best fit for him. How about yours?

My DS applied only in Y13 and didn't get in. He got the impression put very nicely) that it wasn't worth accepting him for just one year.

@Moominmammacat that was also my son’s impression.

I guess you have to think about when to apply ... we left it too late ... so they know you are on the way. I actually think their audition process is very transparent and fair so I've no complaints, although it would have been a great thing to do.

We couldn’t afford it previously. He would have auditioned in year 12 but it was covid year so by the time that was easing he was year 13.