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Guiders Staff Room Part 2

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Groovee · 30/09/2015 12:56

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/extracurricularr_activities/715087-Guiders-39-staff-room-tea-wine-chat-and-optional-dancing

Part one above, new thread for when required x

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nmg85 · 18/06/2016 16:56

Hi All, just getting back into guiding after a 13 year break (was a young leader before I went to uni). I am starting as a rainbow leader after the summer holidays and it appears all the old leaders are leaving as well. It is all a bit daunting and I am not sure really where to begin, I think the unit is stuck in a rut so I think it will be a lot of work.

InFlagranteDelicto · 18/06/2016 17:42

Then really you have a blank slate! Seriously, it's not so bad, we took over in Jan, and although our numbers were good, the girls were disillusioned because the previous leader had lost heart.

A good DC to hold your hand is totally beyond value Smile

nmg85 · 18/06/2016 18:03

it seems they only have 5 girls at the moment which is ridiculous as the waiting list is at least 15 with 5/6 of them already 6. I am looking forward to it but just hope I can make a difference.

Becles · 19/06/2016 04:27

nmg85 Welcome back.

At a.sleepover having very little sleep

AlbusPercival · 19/06/2016 09:37

That was me last week Becles. You have my empathy

RueDeWakening · 19/06/2016 14:29

Hope you've had some rest by now, Becles - or at least lots of coffee!

I ache so much today after all the walking yesterday, I forgot what the trip-hangover was like. Ho hum.

lucysmam · 19/06/2016 14:49

Hope you got some sleep eventually Becles.

I was going to put together a session on 'people who might help us' for Tuesday just in case our local PCSO doesn't make it...my Pinterest app isn't working though & dd1 is hogging the laptop

MillicentMargaretAmanda · 19/06/2016 23:00

Trying to organise a visit to the local Guide unit for out eldest lot of Brownies in a couple of weeks time. Have had two parents come back to tell me that their girls won't be bothering to even visit Guides as they are going to scouts. Which makes me a bit cross in itself as they will not even spend one evening trying Guides and seeing if their assumptions are correct or not. But it also makes me sad as one of them is a very shy, quiet girl who I suspect would thrive at the local, quite small Guide unit. She still barely says boo to a goose even after three years with us. I suspect she will get eaten alive at the very boisterous Scout unit, but of course I can't question the parents decision. Sorry just wanted a rant, please ignore me!

drspouse · 20/06/2016 09:15

Surely they are not old enough at 10 for Scouts anyway?

MillicentMargaretAmanda · 20/06/2016 09:32

Our local scout group has quite the history of taking 10 year old Brownies...

Needmyowndesertisland · 20/06/2016 09:34

Scouts start at 10 and a half. Ds is one. I guess scouts have a very effective & loud public face. Guiding just gets on with it.

In time I'd love to bring a guide unit into my village. And Rainbows. But I also know I'm only human!

MillicentMargaretAmanda · 20/06/2016 10:11

I've actually looked up the rules and they can take those under 10.5 in 'exceptional circumstances'. Which apparently is every Brownie who wants to join Scouts...

And don't be tempted to open up other units as well. Maybe one day a lovely new leader will appear in your neck of the woods and do it!

lucysmam · 20/06/2016 10:23

Funny you should be talking about Scouts - my dd's friend who is in our Brownies is talking about leaving for Scouts when they leave Brownies together in Jan (same birthday). I'm a little bit miffed about it tbh - the whole selfish reason for my opening a Guide unit was for my own dd and her friends. Obviously others too but they were the motivation behind it.

Finally managed to get hold of the Queen's birthday badges for the Rainbows - why it took me so long to try our local trading lady I don't know Confused. Had a proper lightbulb moment about it on Saturday evening Grin.

Still no further with something up my sleeve for tomorrow night - must find something.

MillicentMargaretAmanda · 20/06/2016 10:36

Are you looking for Rainbows or Brownies on Tuesday lucysmam? If Brownies maybe get them to come up with people who might help and act out their jobs for other sixes to guess?

lucysmam · 20/06/2016 12:46

For Rainbows Millicent, one of them threw me the other week when we were talking about what we believe in & she said strangers - I thought a session on people who might help might be a good way of approaching it. I'll get on the laptop shortly and have a proper look, just in the middle of some sewing jobs that have piled up quite a bit.

lucysmam · 20/06/2016 13:17

Twinkl was going so well until it wanted me to pay! Activity Village appears to be offline. Will try Sparklebox & then I'm out of places to look - any other websites any of you can recommend?

drspouse · 20/06/2016 13:33

We've had our last full meeting of Guides but outing/camp to come. But some of them seriously need an attitude transplant. Total mess in the loos after painting. One cross and threatening to "quit" because we told her off for this and for using hall tea towels for wiping up paint (suspect she's never had to clean up at home). One took some pens home (Mum rumbled her and sent me a text).
Also two who bought food for an activity seem really confused about finances i.e. seem to think it's my money? One of them (the cross/spoiled one) didn't get that we can't have everything premium brand/masses of choices/ready made on camp, again I suspect she doesn't understand that camp costs can be a struggle for some families.
I think we need less painting and cooking, more thinking about values and thinking generally, next term.

lucysmam · 20/06/2016 15:10

I'm sorted, have matching up flashcards and masks - we'll build on the flashcards with a chat about who is likely to be approachable should they need help rather than the idea of just 'strangers'. Going to google some images of our local shopping areas too - see if they can find where would be 'good' places to stand if they did get lost rather than in the crowds.

Hopefully that (and our shiny new skipping ropes) will fill the hour should our visitor not come.

dogdrifts · 20/06/2016 15:29

dr, the first thing I do with my gals every year (we are o'seas so guiding sections are different - my unit starts at 12) is discuss budgeting. Our finances run in a different way to GGUK (we have to sell girl guide cookies to finance activities) so the first thing we do is our wish list of activities for the year, and then break a few of them down for costs and work out how many cases of cookies we need to sell to do them. (Or how much we need to charge parents etc). We have learned the hard way that parents moan if they are asked to sell too many cookies, but equally moan if we raise costs for camp etc. Can't have it both ways!

Rue I am lol at your steps count. I did the same thing at camp last weekend and ended up with over 52k for the weekend. I was in bed at 8.30 Grin. We didn't even hike. That was literally just walking round the site. Fifty thousand times.

Ah, my years is so close to over. Unit meetings now finished, just our national jamboree in July to go (final parent meeting next week). The jamboree admin has been shocking, and they keep sending random unexpected requests that have to be completed and sent back immediately, usually requiring information from each parent. Two of my patrol live a 14 hour drive away and I have never met them (we are their host patrol) and even my own gals are impossible to get hold of now that we have had our final meeting. Sigh. Tonight I get to drive three hours to pick up our camp swag though Grin.

dr - we had a brief period where the gals all left to join scouts (the scouts had a big trip they were planning). They all came back when we were running our own trip lol). Shallow, really. In all honesty I can't get too excited about it. We run our activities for the girls who are there - it's nice to have a full unit, but it can be easier to run quality activities with a slightly smaller group sometimes!!! And I know the girls who stay are there because they want to be. Our town has so many youTh activities we are a bit of an also-ran. I try not to take it personally!!

dogdrifts · 20/06/2016 15:34
MillicentMargaretAmanda · 20/06/2016 16:57

You never know dogdrifts. I'm a Ranger leader and we have some wildly enthusiastic ones, but many who mostly come to eat stuff and gossip. But I live in hope that even with those girls I'm planting seeds that may come to fruition in 10 or 20 years time when they decide to give something back to their communities and think of Guiding.

dogdrifts · 21/06/2016 05:35

Hopefully you are right. You caught me having a pessimistic moment Grin

Imfinehowareyou · 21/06/2016 12:50

Has anyone heard about the changes to the guiding programme to be in place for Sep 2017? My division has just had a meeting about it. Apparently guiding is perceived as too girly and focused on crafts and needs to be more adventurous.

There were good suggestions of pre-prepared activities to cut down on leader admin time. Also they want it to be a more seamless transition from Rainbows to Brownies to guides etc.

lucysmam · 21/06/2016 13:27

Not heard anything yet Imfine, will be interesting to see it though.

I'm having a proper 'moment' with my printer. I have police lady masks printed in a fetching mix of black/lilac...no flash cards and every page but page 4 of the Rainbow Summer Challenge has printed properly Hmm Oh and dd2 wants me to print photo's from Friday's trip to the park for Bluebell's diary...not a flippin' chance at this rate!

I have eaten up my entire hour (and more) today alone fighting with the printer!

RueDeWakening · 21/06/2016 13:28

Not heard about that - sounds interesting though. The LASER Growing Up Wild badges have been really useful for me, they've pushed me out of my comfort zone a bit!

If they want a more seamless transition from Rainbows to Brownies, they could stop treating Rainbows like babies and saying we're not allowed to parade, no interest badges, more limited programme...just some suggestions Grin at least we have a flag now!

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