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Gym and weight training noob: what machines to start with?

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JaneFondue · 30/10/2024 12:21

Please excuse noob questions. Never been to the gym. Generally hate them. Walk and swim.a lot. But my waistline is thickening in middle age and my arms are flabby, so I have just got a membership.

I tried various machines, including the chest press and rowing machine for 15 reps and quite enjoyed it. Can people recommend any easy machine workouts for newbies?

I dont want to go for a PT as they are very expensive, and I find them intimidating.

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EmpressaurusDelleGatte · 30/10/2024 12:25

I’m going to sound really annoying here, because you’ve explicitly said no PTs. I agree about most of them, especially the blokes who have photos of themselves glaring manfully with muscly arms folded.

But when I was looking at gyms, one of my criteria was finding one with a female PT of about my age, and I got lucky. I couldn’t afford regular sessions but I just did a few with her to get started & for her to draw up a workout plan for me.

Would that be at all realistic? You might also find that your gym app has workout suggestions on it.

Ozanj · 30/10/2024 12:30

Start with the rowing machine as it’s a full body workout and will help you get strong enough to use the other machines. You should play around with resistance to get a level that still allows you to row quickly. You will be shocked how quickly you’ll see a difference in your arms, back and waist. It took me 4 weeks. I aim to row 1km in about 10mins which is slow but I have diastis / but if you’re fit you could try aiming for 5-6 mins and work down from there.

dudsville · 30/10/2024 12:31

My gym has their own staff I can book in with for a session, but also if I just have a question about a machine then that's fine too. Is this not an option at your gym?

I hate gyms too. I go because of an unfortunate diagnosis I acquired. At first I stayed on the cardio side, but when I ventured over to the other side of the gym and started rowing, it really nipped my waist in. Also, I don't know if this is correct or not, but when I'm cycling I sit up and pull in my core, and when I'm on the other machine I also pay attention to my core and posture so that I'm not flopping, ifswim. I see people on the bikes and stairs really leaning heavily on to the arm/hand rests and it seems to me that the disengaged core results in less of a benefit.

MiddleAgedDread · 30/10/2024 15:09

Does your gym not offer the option to get a programme created for you? Even if you have to pay it's just a one-off cost rather than an ongoing commitment to personal training sessions. I'm going to add to the comments above that it's so important to make sure you understand how to use the machines, set them up correctly and pick the right weights for you.

HighHeelsOnCobblestones · 30/10/2024 15:22

Definitely get someone to show you how to set them up the first time. Love the rowing machine, it’s great cardio too. I like the lateral pull down machine and chest press. Also leg curl, leg extension and leg press machines. I really don’t get on with the shoulder press machine, the one at my gym at least starts at 5kg, which I find quite easy, but the next weight up is 9kg which is too hard. I used dumbbells for shoulder presses now.

Kickingasssince72 · 30/10/2024 15:56

JaneFondue · 30/10/2024 12:21

Please excuse noob questions. Never been to the gym. Generally hate them. Walk and swim.a lot. But my waistline is thickening in middle age and my arms are flabby, so I have just got a membership.

I tried various machines, including the chest press and rowing machine for 15 reps and quite enjoyed it. Can people recommend any easy machine workouts for newbies?

I dont want to go for a PT as they are very expensive, and I find them intimidating.

When I started back at the gym two years ago, I started using all different cardio machines. Stair climber, cross trainer, rowing machine, walk / run machine.

Then I started using all the weights machines like chest press, shoulder press, leg press. If you don't want any advice from a PT, just watch other people. There are pictures on each of these machines to show how to do it, and what muscle your working. Use a range of different ones, to work chest, back, shoulders and legs. And don't go too heavy too quick!! Once you've mastered all these you could move onto Dumbells and Barbells if you like but take your time, and enjoy it.

Andtheworldwentwhite · 30/10/2024 16:04

Honestly. I need to find the right gym. I went to one and hated it. The trainers were awful and didn’t listen to me when I tried to explain my co placated medical problems. I hated it and gave up.

I joined a smaller run gym which is very much a community and the trainers are wonderful. And I wouldn’t hesitate to ask for help. I would ask for recommendations maybe on ur local Facebook page. Not all gyms are created equal

Daisy03 · 30/10/2024 16:11

Leg press
Leg curl
Leg extension
Chest press
Lat pulldown
Shoulder press
3 or 4 sets of 8-12 reps of each

And a cardio machine

JaneFondue · 30/10/2024 16:43

Thanks all. I was given a short induction when I joined to show me how to use the machines, but not a programme as such. Maybe I just need to bite the bullet and try a trainer for a short time to help me come up with a programme. They are all very young and muscly at this gym!

I have just realised that there must be a gym app too.

I am going very slow and light at first.

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boulevardofbrokendreamss · 30/10/2024 17:21

Get a trainer for a one of session. If you like it you can get more.

Londonmummy66 · 30/10/2024 17:39

I just book in with a PT every now and then.First to come up with a programme - and then just occasionally if I want to ring the changes or if an issue crops up. I choose the PT by watching for a bit and he seemed to work with a number of older clients and they clearly liked him. He's also young and good looking so have something nice to look at whilst coping with the tedium that is weights.

InsaneInTheMamBrain · 30/10/2024 17:53

Years ago I joined a gym and made myself a routine up which I stuck to but injured myself as I religiously followed it and overused the same muscles. I also was too shy to ask for support and had found when I did the young staff weren’t very helpful.

Recently I joined another and asked for advice. The older, experienced owner started me with a simple resistance programme to engage the large muscles, which lasted three weeks. It was basic but also trained my breathing to prepare for heavier weights later on. He then gave me a new programme focusing on different muscle groups daily and we are moving on in two weeks to a new programme. This has meant I have stayed injury free as muscle groups are rotated and I have enjoyed the variety. I also do cardio for half the work out time, but didn’t need help with that. This advice has all been for free. Speak to the staff and ask for support. If they want to charge extra have a look for a new gym and ask about support before paying out. My gym is for older people and I really enjoy it. I don’t do the feel the burn nonsense of my childhood but take it easy with the mindset that this will be for life. It is really important to find the right gym rather than just the closest or the first you find.

YellowAsteroid · 01/11/2024 07:54

You’re basically wasting time just randomly going on machines and dining 15 reps. Well, not quite wasting time - it’s better than nothing.

But you need a programme that gets you systematically developing your strength.

There are very reasonably priced programmes via apps. I work with a PT ( a man not intimidating - utterly brilliant actually and he trains all types of people from bros to 90 year old women) but when I’m away for work, I use Stronger by the Day by MegSquats ( find her on YouTube and Instagram). It’s $US90 per year, so around £50. Lots of demonstration videos and a personally calculated progressive programme.

But a couple of PT sessions would be a worthwhile investment.

dgirluk · 01/11/2024 08:17

I started going to the gym because of medical reasons, having had various attempts throughout life and never stuck with it.

I have a mate who used to own a gym who set me up with a programme and it's made all the difference. With hindsight, I should've got someone to do this for me years ago...... He also came with me for the first few, so I could get comfortable with the machines and even some of the free weights and benches and stuff. Where the intimidating people hang out !

I do 3 days - one for legs, one for upper body "push" and one for upper body "pull" - takes about 45-60 mins per session. No cardio, but I mountain bike and try to run outside the gym for that bit.

Each session does 4 x 12 reps (or 4 x 8-10 as I increase a weight) with about a minute's rest in between each set (i.e. the set of 12, wait about a minute, do the next set of 12). And if I have any oomph or time left at the end (rare) I add lunges, and the stepper machine, and maybe some HIIT exercises I got from a book, but haven't done those for ages after an operation.

I guess the short story is - having this program has really helped me stick with it and see a difference in the way I look and feel. So it might be worth sucking it up and getting a PT to do it, but find the right PT for you.

Good luck !

Massivescreen · 01/11/2024 08:27

What about small group PT sessions? I joined a gym a year ago and pay for a monthly membership which gives me 3 x sessions a week. In each session there are up to 10 people and one trainer running the session. We do heavy weights, cardio, strength training etc. These type of places are quite popular where I live and there may be one near you?

You could also try asking chatGPT.

borntobequiet · 01/11/2024 08:28

Ozanj · 30/10/2024 12:30

Start with the rowing machine as it’s a full body workout and will help you get strong enough to use the other machines. You should play around with resistance to get a level that still allows you to row quickly. You will be shocked how quickly you’ll see a difference in your arms, back and waist. It took me 4 weeks. I aim to row 1km in about 10mins which is slow but I have diastis / but if you’re fit you could try aiming for 5-6 mins and work down from there.

Anyone new to using a rowing machine should make sure they’ve been taught how to use it properly.
I’m a qualified rowing coach and am frequently concerned about poor technique and overloading I see on the rowing machine in the gym, particularly with women. You can hurt yourself badly if you don’t know what you’re doing.

Not all gym instructors who carry out inductions understand it properly, so I advise looking at this carefully beforehand:

www.britishrowing.org/knowledge/rower-development/british-rowing-technique/indoor-rowing-technique/

Massivescreen · 01/11/2024 08:29

Sorry I’ve just re-read your post and realised you’ve already joined a gym. My default would be to ask chatGPT!

WhereAreWeNow · 01/11/2024 08:34

I learn by watching other people in the gym and by googling different routines (eg. Google 'weights machines upper body routine' and you'll find loads of YouTube videos and websites giving routines and explanations of how to use the machine).

EmpressaurusDelleGatte · 01/11/2024 08:37

I’d be a bit wary of asking ChatGPT - from what I’ve heard AIs are not fully reliable on this kind of thing yet!

Massivescreen · 01/11/2024 09:51

EmpressaurusDelleGatte · 01/11/2024 08:37

I’d be a bit wary of asking ChatGPT - from what I’ve heard AIs are not fully reliable on this kind of thing yet!

Have a play around with it. I’ve started using it for all sorts, family meal plans, gym programmes to get from current weight to heavier weights, package holiday compare and contrast etc (sorry not trying to derail the thread). As long as you don’t take what it is saying as gospel I find it a useful tool.

Here is what I got when I asked it to write me a six week programme ( I haven’t copy pasted that as this would turn into war and peace) and which machines I might consider.

Incorporating machines can be a great way to add variety and support your form as you build strength. Here are some machine-based options that align well with your six-week program:

Lower Body Machines

1.	<strong>Leg Press</strong> - Great for building leg strength and a good alternative to squats.
2.	<strong>Leg Curl Machine</strong> - Targets your hamstrings, complementing deadlifts.
3.	<strong>Leg Extension Machine</strong> - Helps isolate the quadriceps and can add variety to your leg days.

Upper Body Machines

1.	<strong>Lat Pulldown</strong> - Excellent for building back strength; it can be a stepping stone toward unassisted pull-ups.
2.	<strong>Seated Row Machine</strong> - Targets the back and arms, offering more stability than free weights.
3.	<strong>Chest Press Machine</strong> - Allows you to work on pressing movements similar to push-ups or bench presses, with more control over weight and form.
4.	<strong>Shoulder Press Machine</strong> - Great for shoulder strength, similar to the dumbbell shoulder press.

Core and Isolation Machines

1.	<strong>Abdominal Crunch Machine</strong> - Adds resistance to core work safely.
2.	<strong>Cable Machine</strong> - Highly versatile and great for exercises like cable rows, tricep pushdowns, bicep curls, or even woodchoppers for core work.
3.	<strong>Glute Bridge Machine (if available)</strong> - Targets glutes effectively, similar to a hip thrust.

Substitutions in Your Program

If you prefer to use machines over free weights on some days, here’s how you might integrate them:

•	<strong>Replace Squats</strong> with the <strong>Leg Press</strong>.
•	<strong>Replace Dumbbell Rows</strong> with the <strong>Seated Row Machine</strong>.
•	<strong>Replace Bench Press or Push-ups</strong> with the <strong>Chest Press Machine</strong>.
•	<strong>Replace Overhead Shoulder Press</strong> with the <strong>Shoulder Press Machine</strong>.
•	<strong>Replace Lat Pulldown</strong> or assisted pull-ups with the <strong>Lat Pulldown Machine</strong>.

Machines can be particularly helpful for days when you want to focus more on form or avoid straining stabilizer muscles. Let me know if you’d like any specific machine exercises to replace or complement free weight ones in your current plan!

Massivescreen · 01/11/2024 09:52

I think it’s keeps saying <strong> as that text was originally bold….

JaneFondue · 07/11/2024 12:49

Thanks everyone especially @Massivescreen for the trouble. I have decided to hire a PT for four or five sessions.

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