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Zwift - What do we need?

16 replies

Icenii · 02/03/2021 21:58

I was considering Peloton or Zwift. Bit annoyed that Peloton doesn't suit shorter people with lower weight. Especially the running machine which looks like it has a lower weight limit which isnt that low when you arnt blessed with average height. So looking at Zwift and looking at the bike type stuff.

I dont fully understand what we need. It isn't like Peloton. Ideally I'd not like to swap out mine and DH bikes, so some kind of smart bike? But it doenst make sense. Can anyone help? I'm under 5 foot, DH is over 6 foot.

We're likely to add a running machine later on.

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17thEarlOfOxford · 02/03/2021 22:03

You can get a smart bike that works with zwift but they are pretty pricey - the cheapest option that actually works is the Wattbike Atom for about £1,900. Is that in your price range?

Icenii · 02/03/2021 22:09

Hmm. I was expecting a treadmill to be expensive, but not a bike. Min height is 5 foot too. Worried I'll struggle.

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dreamsarefree · 02/03/2021 22:12

DH and I swap our bikes on a smart trainer (kickr) and it's no bother at all, definitely not for the sake of the extra ££££ and we're getting miles in the saddle of our normal bikes

Icenii · 02/03/2021 22:13

So is Kickr the smart trainer? And do you need anything else? Do you get a good experience?

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dreamsarefree · 02/03/2021 22:18

The Kickr is the smart trainer and we have a HR monitor and cadence monitor to use as well. I really enjoy it and am a lot fitter and more motivated when I do get outside from 2-3x per week using zwift for about 45 minutes. You can have a really hard workout or just use it to tick over. That said, having zwift on a laptop and then also watching the TV at the same time helps for me

Icenii · 02/03/2021 22:20

I'm more a runner and haven't cycled for years but looking for DH birthday. His son uses Zwift and I think you can race / use all the Zwift features?

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dreamsarefree · 02/03/2021 22:22

That's right, I haven't done a race but I've used the free riding options and also followed a few training plans and done the structured sessions as well. I'm a few years in and was never a big cyclist before. I'd like to give the running a go but we don't have a smart treadmill and I'm trying to figure out how the runpod works

Icenii · 03/03/2021 10:53

Which model do you have of Kickr? There appears to be one for £999 and one around £699.

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SendMeHome · 03/03/2021 11:18

I have a Kickr. Had the £699 one but it seemed glitchy and frustrating so we swapped it for the £999 one. Me and DH use it.

I don’t love the treadmill side, the footpod wasn’t accurate and irritated me... the smart treadmills are supposed to be pretty epic but we don’t have room for one.

I’ve used Zwift for five years or so now, and it’s good, but I’d swap it for a Peloton in a second Grin They’re so much fun. Totally different workout, and the variety is really good for keeping things fresh.

PlugUgly1980 · 03/03/2021 12:00

There are different smart turbo trainers. DH and I both use Zwift. He has a Wahoo Kickr Core trainer and I use a Tacx Vortex trainer (DH's old trainer but works fine). We leave our road bikes set up most of the time during the Winter. DH had his set up through the laptop and then TV mounted on the wall. I just use it on my iPad. It's brilliant!

noodlmcdoodl · 03/03/2021 14:58

I’m a recently converted Zwift addict. Months of icy roads sent me to it. I have my best bike set up on a tacx neo t 90% of the time. It’s a smart trainer. It’s worth noting I’m a very serious cyclist (I race/ life revolves around cycling).

As others have said you’d either buy a specific indoor bike like the wattbike, which would be completely adjustable to suit you both. Alternatively if you already have bikes a smart trainer of some description. To get the most out of Zwift, you’d ideally have a smart trainer that automatically adjusts its resistance to suit gradient, generates power, speed and cadence data (a smart bike like the wattbike would also do this). That way no matter what you do on Zwift, be it race, free ride or undertake a specific training programme you’d get a fully immersive experience. I’ve used it with just speed, cadence and power on a normal set of rollers and it felt fairly pointless (I could achieve the same without Zwift in terms of following a set training session or just riding at a given intensity).

The other thing withZwift is you’d need to factor in the 12.99 per month subscription. Also weather you have a compatible laptop or tablet to steam it on. It’d also need to be Bluetooth compatible (so it can pick up the data from whatever you are riding on, and broadcast data to whatever you are riding on). For me this meant buying a music stand to attach my tablet to. I also had to buy a Heart Rate Monitor that broadcast in Bluetooth (the one I had only broadcast Ant+). If you plan to share a smart trainer and go for a direct drive (wheel off) you’d also need to consider weather the cassette would be compatible across two bikes. You also then risk uneven chain/ cassette wear if you are swapping bikes. For that reason you may be better off looking at a wheel on smart trainer. With a wheel on smart trainer you’d really need to use a different tyre (not the one you use on the road) then the additional wear doesn’t matter. That needn’t be an extra cost, just use a ratty old tyre (that’s all I’ve ever done on a dumb trainer and rollers over many years of indoor training).

A fan is also an essential bit of kit - even when I was able to get the room temp down to 3 degrees, I still need a fan to evaporate the sweat. But that’d be just as essential for Peleton.

I’ve absolutely no idea about Peleton. I don’t know any serious or regular cyclists that use it. Most use Zwift, TrainerRoad, Rouvy or Sufferfest. Peleton seems to be aimed at folk with deep pockets who like spin classes?

So I guess it depends what you both want out of Peleton or Zwift. For me. As a racer. Zwift and a smart trainer are ace. In fact it’s been so enjoyable and the quality of the training I’ve been able to do so high (compared to my normal outdoor winter base training), I can’t see myself doing that much outdoor winter base training ever again!! Although I race in real life, I fully intend to have a crack at some Zwift racing to complement my speed/ intensity work.

Poppytime · 03/03/2021 16:13

Hello! I have a wahoo kickr core and was using it with my road bike and it has been great for me (that's the £699 one). Recently bought a wattbike atom (the new smart trainer one) and I love it, it's released my road bike so I can use it on sunnier Days! I use zwift, mainly free rides in the 'worlds' and some of the training programmes and have done for about 2+ years, it's great as others have said. I have a run pod but don't use it much atm as haven't got access to a treadmill with all the gyms shut! The wattbike takes up less footprint than my road bike and the kickr but I appreciate the cost is rather steep. Peloton is a similar price but it's not 'smart' so you don't get the automatic resistance changes that really make the zwift etc experience for me, it's basically just a glorified spin bike - which is fine but not for me!

Icenii · 03/03/2021 16:30

Thank you all. noodl, can you recommend a wheel on smart trainer? Is that the same as the Kickr?

I need to Google what a cassette is. But do you take your road bike, check it is compatable for the smart trainer, and stick it on, as it sounds like you have to make adaptations to the bike like change the tyre?

I'm more a runner and martial artist, can't say I've ever done spinning, so my husband will mainly use this, but I'll use it to cross train. Just after something better than your big standard exercise bike. He loves all the app stuff.

I understand the laptop, screen, heart rate monitor type stuff thankfully.

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Poppytime · 03/03/2021 16:35

I didn't know you needed a special tyre with a smart trainer? I just take off my back wheel and attach it, I keep my front wheel on as normal as it doesn't move (just needs pumping sometimes). I bought a new Shimano cassette just for the turbo as I cba to change it each time - it's easy enough to do, I used some you tube videos, I'm pretty novice when it comes to bike maintenance!

Poppytime · 03/03/2021 16:35

Sorry attach it to my smart trainer. I know you need tyres for rollers etc as they actually use the tyres so you'd want to change tyres/use harder wearing ones I guess

Poppytime · 03/03/2021 16:37

Sorry and! Cassette is the part the chain works up and down when you change gear - rings of smaller to bigger, with the jagged 'teeth'

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