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Brexit Mega Thread 16 – Who's Next?

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LouiseCollins28 · 30/10/2025 22:14

We are approaching the 6th anniversary of Brexit, or I suppose the 5th, if you count the period of transition as "in."

Since then, the world has endured Covid-19, seen war in Ukraine and many other things. Brexit has had reduced salience in the minds of many people recently.

When digesting the latest setbacks to befall the elite who govern our islands, a phrase I keep returning to, is “OK, so now do you get it?”

Brexit is undoubtedly the biggest “OK, so now do you get it?” moment directed at our leaders in my life. It’s surely the largest since 1979, since the Labour victory of 1945? or even since the advent of universal suffrage?

The U.K. local elections in 2026, and subsequent national ones, could see a big increase in support for the Green Party and Reform U.K. Two parties with more different attitudes to European integration could scarcely be found, so Brexit’s salience in the U.K. may rise again soon
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There are many electoral contests in progress or coming across Europe too (the Netherlands and France, for example) which will be worth paying attention to. Maybe the next questions we will face are less about "what next?" and more about "who's next?"

Relations between mainland Europe and the UK remain a worthy topic for discussion, whoever leads the nations of Europe, or leads the E.U. itself.

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DuncinToffee · 10/04/2026 11:12

Logic and brexit contradict each other

MaybeNotBob · 10/04/2026 11:19

Always have, always will...

DuncinToffee · 10/04/2026 11:20

We now have Lord Frost edging back to the EU/Euope

StandFirm · 12/04/2026 19:58

EEexpat · 06/04/2026 13:00

@DuncinToffee

Hybrid working negates the need for Visas. A fact that you don’t seem to understand.

Whilst EU membership removes the need for a Visa if someone needs to stay longer than 90 days per 180, countries will still have to explain why a job was given to a non-national instead of a local.

@MaybeNotBob

There is more inbound traffic into the UK through the channel tunnel than outbound into the EU. So, the EES is a bigger problem for the EU exporters.

Hybrid working is a nightmare for most companies and I know of many examples where cross-border hybrid working is banned due to fiscal complications. It's not a good example.

Talkinpeace · 12/04/2026 19:59

In other news

loving the Hungary election results

StandFirm · 12/04/2026 20:00

Talkinpeace · 12/04/2026 19:59

In other news

loving the Hungary election results

Anything to see Vance with egg on his face

DuncinToffee · 12/04/2026 20:41

Orban has conceded

Friend of Farage, Trump, Putin

StandFirm · 13/04/2026 10:32

DuncinToffee · 12/04/2026 20:41

Orban has conceded

Friend of Farage, Trump, Putin

Good. Really good.

But the populist idiots are hard of thinking and keep on spouting the same old lies ad nauseam like the political zombies they are. Tice calling our realignment with single market rules a 'betrayal' is so bloody laughable when anyone with eyes can see how damaged we've been by leaving the SM in the first place. The only traitors to King and country are the mates of Putin and Trump who prioritise their own financial gains over any principle. And it's not just Reform UK. Badenoch coming out with her ridiculous whining 'it's the worst of both worlds'... Well, who's to blame eh? Who crippled us with that unnecessary self-inflicted wound? Who were the arrogant fuckers who thought they could play with fire with an 'advisory' referendum on the most complex issue in modern politics? They should all have the good grace to STFU.

MaybeNotBob · 13/04/2026 11:22

Zia Yusuf discussing the composition of immigrants to the UK; "Britain went from immigration primarily from EU countries to vastly higher levels of immigration from primarily non-EU countries."

Hmm...

StandFirm · 13/04/2026 15:46

MaybeNotBob · 13/04/2026 11:22

Zia Yusuf discussing the composition of immigrants to the UK; "Britain went from immigration primarily from EU countries to vastly higher levels of immigration from primarily non-EU countries."

Hmm...

And if a Remainer pointed out that this would be the consequence, they were promptly accused by Leavers of wanting to keep the UK in a 'white-only' club. I remember those arguments very very well. Arguing that the predictable influx of non EU immigrants would quickly get weaponised by the far right was greeted with 'Project Fear' accusations.

StandFirm · 13/04/2026 15:50

It's been my long-held (somewhat cynical) belief that the 'thinkers/propagandists' behind Brexit mostly want to engineer an influx of non-EU, non-white (this is relevant) immigrants whilst concurrently slashing away labour rights and any social safety nets- and most of all get rid of any notion of equality or equity- in order to have a caste-based society where they are FINALLY free to discriminate and abuse to their heart's content...

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 08:51

@MaybeNotBob

Go to Portugal instead. They, along with Sweden, are organised and people can upload their biometric data onto to Travel to Europe app in advance of travel.

Some EU members are organised and some are not. My travel insurance, which is an allowable expense when operating as a contractor, cost £9.99 per month and covers all such expenses related to; delayed travel, accommodation…….

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 08:59

@StandFirm

and I know of many examples where cross-border hybrid working is banned due to fiscal complications.

Can you provide a list of companies and countries that have banned cross border hybrid working?

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 09:56

The term advisory referendum appears often. So, let’s look at the facts.

The referendum held 23 June 2016 was conducted in accordance with the 2015 EU referendum act. This stated that there was no obligation to accept the result.

Subsequent to the Gina Miller case, it was established that the government (Conservatives) did not have the authority to trigger article 50 by themselves, but it had to be an act of Parliament.

So, MPs were asked to vote on 29 March 2017. The outcome was that 498 MPs voted to trigger article 50.

The names of the 498 are publicly available. So, why don’t the MN posters who think leaving the EU was a bad idea not sue those MPs? If there is irrefutable proof that UK is worse off due to their decision, what the posters have to lose?

MaybeNotBob · 15/04/2026 10:38

Yeah, about Portugal...

https://www.portugalresident.com/lisbon-airport-queue-misery-returns/

some people who arrived at 6am were “still queuing at 11am”.

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 10:43

The word racism appears often on MN with remain supporters suggesting that UK departure from the EU was all about racism. So, let’s look at some known facts and measured data.

The most anti migrant countries in the world are:

The highest scores of all 53 countries analyzed were in Austria (34%), Germany (31%), the Netherlands (30%), France (28%) and Sweden (27%).

Source www.aa.com.tr

So, the top 5 are all EU members. The UK is not mentioned at all.

BBC Question Time hosted a special episode in Dover to discuss immigration. A member of the audience had fled Iran/Iraq and had sought asylum in; Austria, Romania and Germany, but was rejected. However, his application was accepted in the UK.

DuncinToffee · 15/04/2026 10:51

Ah so now you approve of the UK granting asylum to refugees.

When was this episode aired?

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 10:57

@MaybeNotBob

The link you have provided is dated 27 August 2024. Almost 20 months before the BBC article you posted on 13 April 2026 at 19:32.

The free of charge Travel to Europe App allows travellers to upload their biometric data 72 hours before travel. That only 2 (Portugal and Sweden) of the 29 Schengen countries have adopted the app is a poor performance by the 27 that have not.

MaybeNotBob · 15/04/2026 10:59

Funny, it linked the wrong link. Try this one;

https://www.portugalresident.com/lisbon-airport-queue-misery-returns/

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 11:05

@DuncinToffee

Ah so now you approve of the UK granting asylum to refugees.

I did not comment on whether or not UK should grant asylum, but pointed out the fact that an asylum seeker who had been rejected by three EU members was accepted by the UK.

The QT episode was aired 4 December 2025. It received many complaints and the BBC were accused of the two persons being planted.

The question was asked to the asylum seeker what about his female relatives and why they had not travelled too, but he did not answer.

DuncinToffee · 15/04/2026 11:11

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 11:05

@DuncinToffee

Ah so now you approve of the UK granting asylum to refugees.

I did not comment on whether or not UK should grant asylum, but pointed out the fact that an asylum seeker who had been rejected by three EU members was accepted by the UK.

The QT episode was aired 4 December 2025. It received many complaints and the BBC were accused of the two persons being planted.

The question was asked to the asylum seeker what about his female relatives and why they had not travelled too, but he did not answer.

In 2025, the UK has no way of knowing that his claims were rejected by other EU countries, brexit that

Was he from Iran or Iraq?

And yes that gotcha question 'why did his female relative not travel'

I am glad the UK could offer him safety.

There will be more refugees thanks to Trump

EEexpat · 15/04/2026 11:22

@MaybeNotBob

If you read the article in full, it makes the following points;

The queues developed due to a large number of aircraft arriving at the same time. This can happen at any airport in the World. Delayed departure and weather can easily result in aircraft queuing in holding patterns or on the ground. If you have evidence that being in the EU will prevent such occurrences, I would be happy to read it.

Once the initial queues had cleared, processing times were down to 30 minutes.

It also states that airports across the EU were meant to up to speed with the Travel to Europe App by April, but obviously they were not. A miserable 2 out of 29 complied with the EU directive.

zantez · 15/04/2026 11:25

I see Mr. Magyar, future PM of Hungary has mentioned that he hopes UK rejoins the EU at some point. I think the tide is definitely turning in the face of current attempts to subvert/constrict EU by Trumpist folk, and in order to solidify an axis that doesn't involve the US like it has heretofore.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/hungary-britain-eu-orban-brexit-russia-starmer-magyar-b2956609.html

In both Hungary and Britain, the EU is back in fashion

Editorial: In Budapest, the ousting of pro-Russia Viktor Orban is seismic – but Keir Starmer’s push for a closer relationship with the continent could be just as consequential

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/hungary-britain-eu-orban-brexit-russia-starmer-magyar-b2956609.html