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Question Time Thurs 22nd June 2023 - Brexit Special

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Pipsquiggle · 22/06/2023 10:02

Just wanted to make you aware of this programme tonight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001n3px

Question Time Special - all the audience voted Brexit and it's in Clacton which I think was the most 'Leave' area.

I will be very interested in how the audience feels now and if any have changed their minds or become more entrenched.

BBC One - Question Time, 2023, 22/06/2023

Seven years on from the Brexit vote, Fiona Bruce hosts a special edition in Clacton.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001n3px

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Rummikub · 22/06/2023 23:41

It’s a small audience! They do seem subdued. Or been given something in their tea.

Topseyt123 · 22/06/2023 23:41

Ben Habib clearly has no understanding of the Northern Ireland issue at all.

Tipintorecession · 22/06/2023 23:42

7 years, I could cry - again 😞😢

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Pipsquiggle · 22/06/2023 23:46

I agree with PPs that the audience did come across as a bit thick.

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Topseyt123 · 22/06/2023 23:48

Pipsquiggle · 22/06/2023 23:46

I agree with PPs that the audience did come across as a bit thick.

I wondered whether they were picked because they were actually thick.

LizzieSiddal · 22/06/2023 23:52

wondered whether they were picked because they were actually thick.

Many Brexiteers are thick in my experience, so it won’t be hard to find them.

And Redwood and the other Brexiteer, just sat there and told lie after lie. But expect more of the that because most of them will never admit they got it wrong.

Crikeyalmighty · 22/06/2023 23:56

Good gracious-no wonder the UK is in trouble- the audience would struggle to find a brain cell amongst them-

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 22/06/2023 23:56

I was planning on watching it tomorrow on catchup. Not sure I'll bother now, my blood pressure might not stand it if the audience are really thick.

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 23/06/2023 00:01

It’s a nauseating watch when you couple it with todays rate hike, no light in this tunnel that’s for sure. We are so utterly fucked as a country. The absolute state of some of the audience members who had zero idea about the reality of immigration and how business works, I fucking despair. Brexit and our current government are perfect examples of when stupid votes for stupid.

HannibalHeyes · 23/06/2023 00:04

From twitter;

If Question Time is representative of Brexiters, it’s no wonder they were relying on help from Remainers to make it a success…

DramaticBananas · 23/06/2023 00:10

It was illuminating to see the levels of stupid in the audience. Not all tbf, but many. Plus the lack of debate and general apathy was remarkable. The brexit spokespersons came across as 1, a nasty, shouty bully and 2, a past-it politician.

The academic tried to start a good discussion on the pros and cons and it is those points that I would really like to have heard debated. This audience, if representative of Brexit voters, was shameful.

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Pipsquiggle · 23/06/2023 07:53

The saddest bit was when Alistair was saying how he went to the local school and all but 2 of the young people wanted to rejoin the EU.

Literally no reaction from the audience, some of whom could have been parents. It was so sad. Not even a committed Brexiter chirping up saying they voted to leave so that they would have a better future. No reaction at all.

It must feel dreadful that your sons/daughters know that you were spectacularly conned.

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Tipintorecession · 23/06/2023 08:45

It's devastating 😞 7 years on... I still can't get my head around it

TofuBurgerAnyone · 23/06/2023 10:02

Tipintorecession · 23/06/2023 08:45

It's devastating 😞 7 years on... I still can't get my head around it

Same. Still feel exasperated, ashamed and enraged 7 years on. Can't believe the level of ignorance about the EU. Someone I know voted leave because they wanted to keep imperial measurements 🙄Ultimately though I blame those in power.

EssexMan55 · 23/06/2023 11:04

there was one apparently intelligent man who claimed he was the director of a company making small nuclear reactors. Then he claimed he thought Brexit would make it easier to hire people, but now all he has is massive red tape trying to bring highly skilled people from abroad....hardly a revelation, how could someone like him not have thought that would happen?

DramaticBananas · 23/06/2023 11:06

I partly blame the complacency of those in power at the time. Combined with the lack of critical thinking shown by most of that audience and the wiley manipulation of them by powerful news organisations.

Crikeyalmighty · 23/06/2023 11:59

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves I don't think thick really covers it- I'm sure on paper some of them were not- more bigoted, naive and a total inability to see the big picture and to be frank most were obsessed by incredibly trivial stuff they didn't like and genuinely believed the UK was great and we weren't just now a 3rd country but a 'special case' - they cannot mentally link up many of the current issues and the fact the country spent 400 billion on leaving - which is more than we ever contributed in an act of self harm with very few benefits for most people- because a plumber is charging more or a builder due to lack of competition isn't a benefit for most unless you are a builder etc!! It's all very well talking about sovereignty - if you have a bunch of headbangers in charge- then they have all the sovereignity with no mitigating secondary tier like the EU. there were a few exceptions and a bunch of brave souls who stuck their head above the parapet and Alistair Campbell was terrific-

Kendodd · 23/06/2023 12:19

I wonder if the Leave voters in the audience last night are embarrassed? I bet they're not, I bet they still have zero insight into their own stupidity.

LadyWithLapdog · 23/06/2023 20:40

I’m glad I didn’t watch it. 7 years, I still remember how crushing it felt.

Fordian · 23/06/2023 21:37

Just watched it on catch up.

I cannot believe his lack-lustre the audience were. They asked to be there. But there was merely querulousness.

Some embarrassing interludes ('rails on roofs' 🤔). Some confusion.

But ultimately, Alistair walked all over them.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 23/06/2023 23:12

Forced myself to watch it tonight, and spent a lot of the time shouting at the telly.Blush

Worst audience I've ever seen on QT by a very long way. At first, I was annoyed at the BBC choosing only to represent the views of people who had voted leave, given that remainers accounted for nearly half of the electorate even in 2016. Why have a debate so heavily weighted towards the leave voters' perspective.

Then half way through, I started to wonder instead if the whole thing was actually a remainer plot to showcase how mindblowingly stupid most leave voters actually were. Obviously, I don't actually know if that was the intention but it was certainly the outcome.

It is no wonder that democracy produces such awful governments sometimes. The electorate truly gets the government they deserve. I don't know what the solution is though. I don't suppose that people can help being stupid, and if they're too stupid to realise how stupid they sound, they aren't likely to make much effort to educate themselves.

I despair. I honestly think humanity is doomed as a result of its own stupidity.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 23/06/2023 23:14

Rails on the roof lady did really make me laugh though!Grin

endofagain · 23/06/2023 23:17

Yes indeed. Builders should be allowed to fall off roofs with impunity. Now that we are sovereign. I think that was the gist of it.

Pythacalling702 · 23/06/2023 23:50

I’ve just seen the roof lady clip tonight. Argh. 🙁

It’s nerve-wracking speaking up on live tv, but even allowing for that, there was a definite whiff of “I read this in the Daily Mail so it must be true” about her argument. She didn’t seem too sure of the details.

emmylousings · 24/06/2023 00:00

Kendodd · 22/06/2023 23:16

And the women who voted Leave because of safety rails on roofs ffs.

I know! You couldn't make it up. Painful. There was barely anyone making any sense in the audience. A very depressing watch.