Brits will have to pay for entry to the EU from 2022: Bloc to demand cash and pre-approval as post-Brexit trips to Europe are no longer for free

[DGRossetti]

really needs it's own thread as another outcome of Brexit we were assured wouldn't happen.

www.cityam.com/brits-will-have-to-pay-for-entry-into-eu-as-bloc-demands-cash-and-pre-approval-for-post-brexit-trips-to-europe-from-2022/

Lol. Are they kidding.

Fair enough. It’s what we do with the US and we are no longer part of the EU.

It was the UKs idea when it was still in the EU.

Oops!

Pretty normal for non EU countries isn’t it?

Like all visitors from outside EU.

UK will doubtless introduce a reciprocal system.

ETIAS was basically approved in April 2016, after much very public discussion and some controversy -- a few months before the UK's Referendum on Leaving the EU in late June 2016. If someone told you it wasn't going to happen, or wouldn't impact UK citizens, they were not credible in saying that. Leaving the Single Market (not leaving the EU) sealed the UK's fate with this, but it's nothing specific for UK citizens, but a blanket rule for people who are not citizens of EU or EEA countries or Switzerland or some of the European microstates who are considered de facto Schengen.

I question that this was "the UK's idea", though, given that it only automatically applies to the Schengen zone, and the UK has never been part of or seriously considered being part of the zone.

This won't impact UK citizens travelling to Ireland, as it's part of the CTA, but I would not be surprised if non-Schengen EU countries like Bulgaria, Croatia, and Romania adopt a parallel scheme, and possibly also EU candidate countries.

Yes we knew this

End of free movement means movement isn’t free shocker

What is the problem with this?

Obviously consequence of Brexit happens after Brexit, what a shock.

So you just pay for someone to do the paperwork and issue a visa. Seems very normal to me.

EU and Europe are not the same thing.

What is the problem with this?

It's an extra expense. We were told that leaving the EU would bring benefits - stumping up money when you didn't need to previously, is not my idea of a benefit.

Fees will either be very low or I can see Israel, Egypt, Tunisia etc becoming very popular.

Business has got so used to Zoom, very few business trips are physically necessary now.

This will end up as a bit of a damp squib.

@Peregrina

What is the problem with this?

It's an extra expense. We were told that leaving the EU would bring benefits - stumping up money when you didn't need to previously, is not my idea of a benefit.

Paying a few extra quid to go to forrin places is hardly the end of the world. If they start vetting people and checking criminal records that might be a different matter for some.

It's £6 for three years. It costs you more to buy a coffee at the airport. I'm not keen on Brexit but fussing over things as minor as this must be exhausting.

It's the steady drip drip drip of extra costs though, which adds up. Customs dues, visas - all very strange for something for which we held all the cards.

£6 for 3 years? Bargain. Our tests are adding much more to the cost of travel and I'm sure I was told if I had the jabs I wouldn't need them. That's how I sold the jabs to my older children who had covid with no adverse symptoms and weren't keen on being jabbed.

@Peregrina

It's the steady drip drip drip of extra costs though, which adds up. Customs dues, visas - all very strange for something for which we held all the cards.

Yes but we burned those cards.

For that particular case it may only be £2 per year. For various customs dues - courtesy of Johnson's Great Deal, they are a costs which mount up, and can make small businesses unviable.

Then moan about customs duties. Not about the ETIAS.

I wonder just how long it will before people get turned away because they haven't applied for a visa? One can predict the wailing headlines in the Express.

I don't see people moaning, just rolling their eyes at all this 'winning'.