Westminstenders: a feature of the system not a bug

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Tests on the new queuing system in Kent have revealed that lengthy tail backs are a feature not a bug.

We should get used to them because thats normal not the system malfunctioning, but the planned system working as designed.

Today we have found out that there's no money left. The economy is fucked. And tomorrow we will probably all be in T3 with the Isles of Wight, the tip of Cornwall and inner Westminster the only places left in T1.

Christmas has apparently been 'saved' though. Well if you are dumb and lacking in functional brain cells its 'saved'. Trade for Christmas is already thoroughly goosed and indoor family gatherings may come with a extra side of covid. The BBC have done an epic job of 'doommongering project fear' style graphics on this wonderful subject.

Tis the season to be jolly. Jolly fucked.

@ListeningQuietly
Is that the same for Illy coffee, though, which is specifically what I've ben stockpiling?

@DGRossetti
Meat is locally produced, so should be fine. Veg are Riverford so partly UK and partly they have their own farm in France.

Very reassured about booze though...

"GPs are to receive £150 million in vaccine roll-out funding."

That's good news.

The flu vaccination programme cost about £200 million in 2018 (less than 75% coverage).

www.pharmacymagazine.co.uk/clinical-briefing-pharmacy-flu-jabs-save-nhs-millions

And should have said LQ, that Illy is an Italian brand..

Reassuring to hear about booze as we do like Italian wine and Peroni. Having said that there have been lots of good offers at the supermarkets lately, so it would have been silly not to take advantage and stock up.

borntobequiet
The flu vaccination programme cost about £200 million in 2018

How much were GP costs? Your link is to a pharmacy magazine - pharmacists are also on the list to administer the Covid vaccine.

Illy coffee may be more of an issue as it likely comes in by truck
Riverford import a LOT of their food from the continent - you have to look at the whole supply chain.
Meat is an issue because without the cheap imported stuff, more will be buying the expensive local stuff

I love the idea that StageTruck drivers will magically be free to deliver parsnips.
Ha ha ha ha ha

borntobequiet
Surely, the government will provide more funding when more vaccines become available.

Thanks LQ

I don't think surely will provide more funding and Government belong in the same sentence. Now if you had said, that surely the Government would find a way for the vaccine programme to enrich their mates - then yes, given their form over the last year, I would believe that.

Rice is long life and takes up very little space.That's the bulk carbohydrate sorted.

The flu vaccination programme cost about £200 million in 2018

What it says

Maybe the ferries from Dunkirk to Ireland could carry some goods for Scotland,which could then go on ferries from Northern Ireland?

I love the idea that StageTruck drivers will magically be free to deliver parsnips.

"Eddie Stobart Logistics (ESL) is preparing to make redundancies across the group"

"Hoyer Petrolog UK (aviation fuel) move to cut driver jobs triggers strike action threat."

"28th September 2020 - RHA Benevolent Fund offers support to redundant HGV drivers."

Or could people from Wales row out to the ferries as they are passing and take their supplies off. Or of course, they could do as they did in the old days, set false lights so as to encourage a shipwreck and obtain the goods that way.

Joking of course, but it's no more hare-brained than the brexiters ideas.

comes in by container ship from outside the EU - so nothing will change.

Not necessarily true - anything that comes from a non-EU country but covered by a deal with the EU will revert to WTO. eg The EU-mercosur deal was supposed to eliminate some coffee tariffs - if it did then brazilian coffee at least will be impacted. Ditto the much older EU/Peru/Columbia/Honduras/Ecuador trade deal.

Frankie
As I said further down the same post - duty rates will change but the C88 is already being filled out so the logistics will be unaffected

Clav
Eddie Stobart has adverts to sign up drivers on the back of most of its vehicles
but without licences to drive in the EU their business will rely on short delivery of unaccompanied units
which is a much less lucrative market

@FrankieStein402

>comes in by container ship from outside the EU - so nothing will change.

Not necessarily true - anything that comes from a non-EU country but covered by a deal with the EU will revert to WTO. eg The EU-mercosur deal was supposed to eliminate some coffee tariffs - if it did then brazilian coffee at least will be impacted. Ditto the much older EU/Peru/Columbia/Honduras/Ecuador trade deal.

Turns out my coffee is made in Trieste so I will carry on stockpiling it... It's a good price in Sainsbury's right now anyhow.

@Greektome

Maybe the ferries from Dunkirk to Ireland could carry some goods for Scotland,which could then go on ferries from Northern Ireland?

Again, you have the issue of payment. That would take significantly longer than current routes so drivers will want to be paid accordingly.

Dunkirk to Dover = 2 hours
Dover to Scotland (yes I know it's a large country but I couldn't be arsed to google for different locations) = 8 hours
So 10 hours in total plus however long they are driving within scotland.

Dunkirk to Rosslare = 24 hours
Rosslare to Larne = 4 hours
Larne to Cairnryan = 2 hours
So 30 hours in total plus however long they are travelling in scotland plus the additional queuing time for a second ferry.

The EU-mercosur deal was supposed to eliminate some coffee tariffs - if it did then brazilian coffee at least will be impacted

The EU-Mercosur trade deal has stalled and hasn't been ratified.

Ditto the much older EU/Peru/Columbia/Honduras/Ecuador trade deal.

May 2019 -
"UK signs trade continuity agreement with Colombia, Ecuador and Peru."

www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-signs-trade-continuity-agreement-with-colombia-ecuador-and-peru

July 2019 -
"UK and Central America sign continuity agreement."

"The UK and Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama have signed the UK-Central America Association Agreement."

www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-central-america-sign-continuity-agreement

Presumably it will be much more viable to bring in small high value items than large low value items? For example a delivery of mobile phones rather than a delivery of toilet rolls?

"Italian coffee roaster illycaffe has bought its distributor in Britain, signalling its confidence in the market in spite of uncertainties surrounding the country's looming exit from the European Union."

www.thisismoney.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-7323519/Italys-illycaffe-buys-British-distributor.html

@Parmesanfrenzy

Presumably it will be much more viable to bring in small high value items than large low value items? For example a delivery of mobile phones rather than a delivery of toilet rolls?

Not into a country that is world beating at cutting emissions.

[quote Clavinova]"Italian coffee roaster illycaffe has bought its distributor in Britain, signalling its confidence in the market in spite of uncertainties surrounding the country's looming exit from the European Union."

www.thisismoney.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-7323519/Italys-illycaffe-buys-British-distributor.html[/quote]
Excellent news! Thank you!

How does Illy buying out the relevant division of its UK distributor make any difference to importing its coffee to the UK?