Westminstenders: Going, going, cummings

[RedToothBrush]

As expected he's fucking off and leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces in January. But it does look like he was eventually shown the door and left with a cardboard box. As he should have been months ago.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with Johnson needing an image change, like the shape shifting creep he is, to one that fits more with the incoming Biden Administration. In other words hes got some serious sucking up to do...

... Meanwhile in Brexit land we are going into yet another final week of talks.

Many expect Cummings departure to signal 'the cave in'. The Eu say we havent moved enough and the uk say the EU wants us to do all the moving... Except the EU have done lots of moving. Barnier is still looking for a groundsman to level his field to play. We have yet to work out we aren't Canada and distance is important to trade.

Of course if we don't get a deal, that Pfizer vaccine in Germany that we want, might be hit with delays and extra costs we just can't afford.

It’s just finished Clav

@DGRossetti

Louise - I don't see any mention of fishing in this list

It's almost like they are making it up as they go along. No wonder Brexit is such a shit show. It's undercover modern jazz.

I wish there was a like button on MN

But back in the UK

Swazi peaches and Israeli granola will not go far in the food bank donation boxes

Still waiting to see how fresh veg will arrive in January ....

Sometimes you have to stop digging, Clav. Time to pop out again.

Nice to see the UK following the good example of the EU in its relations with Southern Africa.
I expect there’ll be a good few bungs for Tory hangers on and fat cats though. Back to the good old days, what ho.

@Clavinova

Just tuned in to GBBO?

Peter wins.

I'm struggling to see how you can argue that it's better to import olive oil from further away while also arguing in favour of more environmentally friendly transport methods.
But I'm doubtless missing The Point.

Noooooooo, you've just spoiled the ending of GBBO! We watch it tomorrow as it's past bedtime for my DDs.

Not that that is remotely surprising as a result.

Where
The result is all over the meeja now
but to be honest you'll still LOVE watching it

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/24/uk-facing-risk-of-systemic-economic-crisis-official-paper-says

Sorrychickens couldn’t resist.

Sorry - I won't buy food produced in Isreali's - as the factories it is manufactured in , is built of land stolen from the Palestinian- and provided with resources which the Israeli government won't allow the pale to have for their businesses........ like water......

Thanks Sarahlou. Grim but realistic.

But a Big Controversy with one of the Masterchef constestants being edited out and no one knows why. Therefore to steal TheElements line, this shows that Brexit will be a huge success.

Lol Peregrina.

No worries Sabrina - I have just accidentally let it slip to my DH who likes avoiding all news though, so now I'm in trouble :)

Not remotely surprised by the M20 queue today either, and that's just with immigration checks, no customs or SPS checks. We're up shit creek aren't we.

See also twitter.com/AnnaJerzewska/status/1331317207285063680

@Peregrina

But a Big Controversy with one of the Masterchef constestants being edited out and no one knows why. Therefore to steal TheElements line, this shows that Brexit will be a huge success.

Conjecture that he might have told Marcus Wareing to “go fuck himself”?

Which is quite the metaphor for Brexit.

Does anyone here know what inflationary pressure on goods and a tanking economy is going to do to interest rates? I'm wondering whether it's worth paying some early repayment charge on a portion of our mortgage to fix now at a low rate for 5 years?

Honestly really admire everyone using facts and logic to patiently deconstruct completely frivolous arguments. I just want to shout at my iPad. Forest and trees comes to mind.

Anyhow, I'll say this...Clav you are making another frivolous and unsupported argument wrt Erasmus+... A case of confirmation bias without the confirmation. One, this conjecture that the target group is smaller than you not we think is plain wrong. Two, why would it matter?!

It seems that you're implying that it'd be better to deprive some 'pure bred' British youth of having this amazing experience, rather than see some undeserving bilingual but still British students share in the experience. Voldemort's division between mud bloods and pure bloods come to mind

I was wondering what percentage of UK nationals on Erasmus student placements might have grown up in bilingual homes in the UK - with close family ties to their host country in the EU - in which case the obvious target group for Erasmus (students without similar exposure) may be even smaller than we think

Brexit...

I love that the loos near the Farage Garages are now being called Jacob Rees Bogs...

Where the lorry drivers will be using their johnsons

Has the BBC been told to play down End of Transition fears - article published in the Grauniad about leaked document setting out that old friend the "reasonable worst case scenario ".
I was sceptical about the "national broadcaster " jibes in this thread but even a sunny optimistic soul like me is seeing it.

I mean, I know we're all bored of this stuff ...

[quote Clavinova]ListeningQuietly
"Canned fruit from countries such as Eswatini (formerly Swaziland)"
but the Tariff rate on them is Zero

Appears to be 18.40% for peaches - although, again I am only giving an example;

"Peaches, including nectarines"
"Importing from outside the EU is subject to a third country duty of 18.40 % unless subject to other measures."

www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/commodities/2008709817

Peaches mentioned here, 2019;

"At the moment, for example, eSwatini could not can SA [Southern African] peaches and export them duty-free to the EU. It has had to can Greek peaches because SA peaches don’t qualify for duty-free access to the EU."

www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-03-14-southern-africa-scrambles-to-avoid-trade-fallout-from-brexit/[/quote]
The tariff for South African peaches is 4.9%, not 18.4%.

@DrBlackbird

Honestly really admire everyone using facts and logic to patiently deconstruct completely frivolous arguments. I just want to shout at my iPad. Forest and trees comes to mind.

Anyhow, I'll say this...Clav you are making another frivolous and unsupported argument wrt Erasmus+... A case of confirmation bias without the confirmation. One, this conjecture that the target group is smaller than you not we think is plain wrong. Two, why would it matter?!

It seems that you're implying that it'd be better to deprive some 'pure bred' British youth of having this amazing experience, rather than see some undeserving bilingual but still British students share in the experience. Voldemort's division between mud bloods and pure bloods come to mind

I was wondering what percentage of UK nationals on Erasmus student placements might have grown up in bilingual homes in the UK - with close family ties to their host country in the EU - in which case the obvious target group for Erasmus (students without similar exposure) may be even smaller than we think

Just to add about bilingual/binational students...

My dcs are dual citizens and bilingual. They are also at a time in their life where we are looking at universities.
Whether Erasmus is there or not has no impact on their choice. Even out if the eu, they will still get to study anywhere in the eu if they want to. Because they are eu citizens.
The only people will get something out of Erasmus are British only students who might not be able to do so....

FWIW I never even considered Erasmus as a possibility for them, even before brexit. They are French so they can go to Uni in France as French students. I didn’t even consider the Erasmus possibility, which would be (whisper) for foreigners.