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Westminstenders: PreGrades (Minority Report comes to the UK)

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RedToothBrush · 15/08/2020 19:54

In Aug 2020, London, DC's prototype 'PreGrades' launched from the education department stops plebs before they go to university, reducing the social mobility rate to zero percent. Social mobility is predicted using specialized mutated humans, called "Teachers", who "predict" grades by marking shit lots of course work and exams over a period of years. Would-be social climbers are knocked down in a computer algorithm which distorts reality and hits the disadvantaged hardest. Central government is on the verge of adopting the controversial program nationwide by applying it in all departments from the DWP, the Home Office, the Department of Health and the Department of Justice to predict benefit fraud, getting sick asylum seeking and crime before it occurs.

DC's vision of the future is based on excellence being genetically ingrained into the elite but he must sell this vision to the unsuspecting public in a series of public votes which rely on the idea of the 'undeserving'. Little do they know that they too will be the victims of this plan until a mysterious bug appears and only the wealthy and well connected are able to get hold of adequate PPE and they are no longer able to buy bog roll nor retire to Spain as they had previously and endless queues for pizza form near Kent.

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RedToothBrush · 21/08/2020 13:59

So thte 'check, change, go' campaign is being heavily advertised by the government. Don't know what it is? Thats the end of transition campaign

I've just noticed this:

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/special-features/uk-left-eu-use-simple-18791955
The UK has left the EU - use this simple tool to find out what YOU need to do

The Government has launched an easy online transition checker for both businesses and individuals

Its really crap and unclear.

It took me a few clicks to start to notice a few things that aren't currently on most people's radar. And I think its worth considering in the context of people not being able to go on holiday abroad this year...

...here's the government page on travel to the Eu after 31st December
www.gov.uk/visit-europe-1-january-2021

Healthcare: check you’re covered

You should always get appropriate travel insurance with healthcare cover before you go abroad.

Your European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) will be valid up to 31 December 2020.

It’s particularly important you get travel insurance with the right cover if you have a pre-existing medical condition. This is because the EHIC scheme covers pre-existing conditions, while many travel insurance policies do not.

This is potentially a MASSIVE sting for anyone paying attention, particularly if you are older. No more really cheap holidays to Spain if you've health conditions...

Driving
You may need extra documents from 1 January 2021.

You might need an international driving permit (IDP) to drive in some countries.

If you’re taking your own vehicle, you might also need a ‘green card’ or valid proof of insurance and a GB sticker.

What a pain in the arse.

This sounds expensive too:

Mobile roaming: free roaming may end
From 1 January 2021, the guarantee of free mobile phone roaming throughout the EU, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway will end.

Check with your phone operator to find out about any roaming charges you might get from 1 January 2021.

A new law means that you’re protected from getting mobile data charges above £45 without you knowing.

Once you reach £45, you need to opt in to spend more so that you can continue using the internet while you’re abroad. Your phone operator will tell how you can do this.

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ListeningQuietly · 21/08/2020 14:07

I met up with my young friend who was caught up in the A level debacle.
She has indeed lost her first choice place despite grades exceeding her offer
so she is going somewhere totally different that she's never visited

This Government are such a shower of shit

yoikes · 21/08/2020 14:13

My nehew passed all his gcses except English literature.

His grades weren't stellar (he would have done much better in the actual exams) but they got him onto the course he wanted to do at the college he wanted to go to.

He feels cheated, though. As I imagine all this years cohort do.

It's amazing he passed so many with the dreadful time he was having at home.

DGRossetti · 21/08/2020 14:31

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-uk-eu-deal-barnier_uk_5f3f957cc5b6763e5dc1f13e

It is now “unlikely” that Britain and the EU will agree a Brexit trade deal, Brussels’ chief negotiator has said.

(contd)

Peregrina · 21/08/2020 14:37

Johnson doesn't want a trade deal - we know that. He wants to be as much in hock to America as he can get away with. I be he regrets giving up his US citizenship now.

ListeningQuietly · 21/08/2020 14:41

He wants to be as much in hock to America as he can get away with
I'm not even sure he's thought that far

DGRossetti · 21/08/2020 14:44

@Peregrina

Johnson doesn't want a trade deal - we know that. He wants to be as much in hock to America as he can get away with. I be he regrets giving up his US citizenship now.
Like his having Covid, i have my doubts about that.

I bet a shit hot lawyer could mount a case that revocation wasn't actually lawful - especially as Boris' citizenship was granted by the constitution. The power of the federal government to revoke citizenship has always been assumed in the absence of a challenge.

RedToothBrush · 21/08/2020 15:07

I bet he regrets giving up his US citizenship now.

Tax.

It was in his interests to revoke his citizenship for tax reasons.

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TatianaBis · 21/08/2020 15:11

@DGRossetti

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-uk-eu-deal-barnier_uk_5f3f957cc5b6763e5dc1f13e

It is now “unlikely” that Britain and the EU will agree a Brexit trade deal, Brussels’ chief negotiator has said.

(contd)

Was reading this in the Guardian.

U.K. official:

“The process block now is the EU’s insistence that we must accept their position on state aid and fisheries before we can talk about anything else,” said a senior UK negotiating official. “I mean obviously we’re not going to do that. So it’s frozen.” …………

“Things are focussing down, not necessarily helpfully, on the issues of state aid, subsidy policy and fisheries policy,” said the UK official. “What’s frustrating here is that Michel Barnier said in his press conference just now, “Brexit means Brexit”, which is of course correct. [But] they don’t apply that in this area where they want to see us continuing arrangements that are very like those that we’re bound by as members of the EU.”

”When the EU realise that that needs to change it will be much easier to make progress.” 🙈

DGRossetti · 21/08/2020 15:14

As far as I can tell the UK is still insisting that it sets the rules and that's that.

The problem is that every time they say it, nothing happens.

Not only will it be no deal. It will be no deal with the worst of grace. The recent note that after the transition period the UK can pretty muck kiss goodbye to the Dublin agreement on migrants is a hint. All of a sudden having a massive coastline that we were never really able to patrol when the Royal Navy wasn't threatening China may not be the best place from which to argue.

mrslaughan · 21/08/2020 15:40

@ListeningQuietly - but I thought an offer was like a legal contract? So if she has met the grades they have to get a place?

ListeningQuietly · 21/08/2020 16:20

MrsL
Her first choice was St Andrews. They do not have the capacity to expand and they have taken on too many Scottish students so English ones have been hung out to dry.
They are not responding to emails and calls.
Its very poor but TBH she'll be really happy where she is going.

mrslaughan · 21/08/2020 16:35

Oh good - at least she's happy.
Dnephew found out today he has a place at Cambridge this year. He was pretty relaxed about deferring a year as his prenatal can afford to support him and he knows that is not always the case. But they seem to have juggled things. It's been an emotional rollercoaster for all involved (I do just mean in my family but nationally)

ListeningQuietly · 21/08/2020 16:47

MrsLaughan
She will be happy when her anger and disappointment subside
but I've known her for 11 years and I've never seen her looking so broken.

To be told she was a failure and then to learn she wasn't and then to have her grades questioned by politicians and then to be bounced around between universities and then facing a COVID freshers week.

I feel desperately sorry for all students living with the legacy of Gove in a time of Covid with Brexit looming.

DGRossetti · 21/08/2020 17:43

Who wants to see a clip of a fraudster and a fraud ?

yoikes · 21/08/2020 17:55

LQ poor lass. I hope she gets over her disappointment.

I'm feeling fucking furious again
About every fucking thing this fucking Govt is doing to my country and my family.

I'm trying SO hard to positive and upbeat for the dc. Ds2 starts secondary next week and ds1 starts year 13 the week after.

What sort of future do they have?

SabrinaThwaite · 21/08/2020 18:04

They do not have the capacity to expand and they have taken on too many Scottish students so English ones have been hung out to dry.

I’d be surprised if that is the case, as Scottish student numbers are capped by the Scottish Government as it pays the (much lower) fees for them. In the recent past, Scottish students have been bumped in favour of rUK and international students who pay ££££ in comparison.

But add into the mix that Westminster capped the number of English students that could go to Scottish universities, and that’s more likely to be the source of the issue.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/1354787/st-andrews-university-slams-uk-government-over-cap-on-english-student-numbers-in-scotland/amp/

Has that cap been lifted?

DGRossetti · 21/08/2020 18:10

About every fucking thing this fucking Govt is doing to my country and my family.

enabled by people claiming to be your friends and neighbours ... I'm not letting them off the hook either.

TatianaBis · 21/08/2020 18:36

Glad to hear about your nephew mrsl.

Listening - could your friend take a year out and reapply?

That said I’m not sure St Andrews is much of a loss.

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/17/st-andrews-survivors-the-mood-isnt-just-senseless-outrage

ListeningQuietly · 21/08/2020 18:57

Sabrina
I suspect that a bigger Uni in a bigger town would have more flexibility
but St Andrews cannot magic up an extra 700 rooms
If anybody knows the rules its her because her Dad works in Admissions for an RG Grin

Tatiana
She's definitely off to Uni this year and TBH when she gets to see the Campanile in the middle of the campus and check out the Curry Mile she'll thrive. Wink

SabrinaThwaite · 21/08/2020 19:00

the Campanile in the middle of the campus and check out the Curry Mile

Isn’t it the Balti Triangle?

ListeningQuietly · 21/08/2020 19:15

Sabrina
I suspect there are both ! And as she's veggie, she'll be spoilt for choice :-)
Boringly switching from StAn to Brum saves 7 hours on the journey home each way !!!

TatianaBis · 21/08/2020 19:21

DM reports Boris didn’t have permission to camp on the farmer’s land and he’s furious.

TatianaBis · 21/08/2020 19:22

”Mr Johnson is meant to be leading the country and yet he is not setting a great example. He said.

prettybird · 21/08/2020 19:30

Much as I would like to put the knife in to BJ, wild camping is legal in Scotland and technically he didn't have to ask permission. Hmm

As long, of course, he didn't do any damage and left the place as he found it Wink

The only place you can't wild camp is private gardens Grin and recently and controversially the National Parks (I think) Shock