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Westministenders: Don't forget to stockpile. Again.

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RedToothBrush · 04/08/2020 18:10

The government is telling pharmacists and drug manufactures to stockpile drugs ahead of the end of transition on 31st December.

In the middle of a pandemic.

What could go wrong?

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/08/2020 17:56

I've just learned the word "centibillionare" Hmm

Mark Zuckerberg has just become the 3rd centibillionaire, after Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates

pussycatinboots · 07/08/2020 18:30

BCF aren't there nettles and brambles in German forests? 🩹
Is the next one up a decabillionaire? then kilo?
Words you really shouldn't need to know.

dontcallmelen · 07/08/2020 18:35

@ListeningQuietly

Yoikes I have no problem with conversion into rental property so long as the Landlord retains the duty to maintain and ensure fire safety and legal compliance BUT ANYTHING that allows building to be cheaply converted and sold off leasehold is despicable and should be blocked
They did this at the end of my road, converted a disused office block into rented flats, something to do with Mayor Khan he came & officially opened them, I have not been in one but they do look very nice & so far have been well maintained from what I can see of the outside.
JeSuisPoulet · 07/08/2020 19:27

@ListeningQuietly

Yoikes I have no problem with conversion into rental property so long as the Landlord retains the duty to maintain and ensure fire safety and legal compliance BUT ANYTHING that allows building to be cheaply converted and sold off leasehold is despicable and should be blocked
^This

Here a large chunk of the town centre is owned by the diocese. They are terrible for putting up rents on businesses to the point they have no option but to leave. IMO it would be full religious karma if they now had to actually put their money where their mouth is and provide conversions from shops to housing to get rent. However I certainly wouldn't put it past them to impose ridiculous legalease to evict tenants without notice/not upkeep the property or convert it properly. I do think though that seeing as it is a tourist city perhaps they couldn't get away with "slums"? But then who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/08/2020 19:52

@pussycatinboots

BCF aren't there nettles and brambles in German forests? 🩹 Is the next one up a decabillionaire? then kilo? Words you really shouldn't need to know.
... Many years ago when hiking with some German friends here - not naturist - we had a break and I went behind a tree, not noticing some lurking stinging nettles ....

I learned the German word for stinging nettles - and they learned several English words !

BigChocFrenzy · 07/08/2020 19:56

In Germany, I once discussed British property with my investment adviser at the Postbank

He said he had investigated British leaseholds and was horrified that any developed European country had retained such a "feudal system" in his words

AuldAlliance · 07/08/2020 20:02

BCF
I was about to remark that leasehold is a positively feudal system that baffles most people (incl Scots) outwith England.

And that I concur with whomever it was that mentioned the issue of land ownership generally as a cause of many problems in the UK.

Thanks for the ECDC figures. I need to track those.

pussycatinboots · 07/08/2020 20:10

BCF I am mortified at bringing those awful memories back to you.

😳

Taswama · 07/08/2020 21:27

On street names- we have a local estate where all streets are place names - Devon close, Canterbury drive etc. One road has a sign saying Salisbury close on one side. Directly opposite is another sign saying Sailsbury close.

MarshmallowManiac · 07/08/2020 21:33

Re road names we have a few funny ones not too far from us, such as Gravelly Bottom, Squeeze Gut Alley, Ticklebelly Alley and Pett Bottom. Grin Grin

ListeningQuietly · 07/08/2020 21:39

Leasehold is Feudal
absolutely
to the best of my knowledge its illegal in many countries eg the USA

yoikes · 07/08/2020 21:46

It's as hot as Satan's armpit and I'm not happy 😒

Leasehold should be illegal.

House prices here continue to amaze and horrify me.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/08/2020 22:07

@pussycatinboots

BCF I am mortified at bringing those awful memories back to you.

😳

.... Thanks < remembers traumatised arse >
BigChocFrenzy · 07/08/2020 22:11

Only 35C here, but v humid and my ceiling fans don't do much good above about 30C

I'm longing for our gym air con installation to be complete, due EOM - probably once it's cooler !
Without COVID, I don't think the skinflint would ever have installed it

I've another 2 v strenuous classes tomorrow afternoon and the heat is atm the toughest part

prettybird · 07/08/2020 22:11

My suburb (one of the first planned suburbs in the UK - pre-dates Hampstead Garden Village and even, by c50 years, Letchworth Shock) has streets named after parts of Scotland (mostly the borders) where the family part of whose estate it was built on had links. Others are named after Scottish poets (none that I can identify as having slavery links Wink). Or simply after Gaelic/Scots names of settlements/locations that were already there.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/08/2020 22:14

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/07/uk-plan-to-use-navy-to-stop-migrant-crossings-is-unlawful-lawyers-warn

Priti Patel’s plans to use the navy to tackle the growing number of migrants crossing the Channel from northern Francee^ would be unlawful and dangerous, lawyers have warned.

< well "illegal & dangerous" has not stopped her before >

BigChocFrenzy · 07/08/2020 22:32

Immigration barrister Colin Yeo:

“The Royal Navy cannot simply enter French waters without an agreement to return migrants crossing the Channel.

“The French authorities would need to agree to accept any returns
and
because of the variety of hard Brexit sought by the UK government, the current returns arrangement, called the Dublin regulation, is ending on 31 December 2020,
with no sign of any replacement being negotiated.

It will become harder to return migrants to France in 2021, not easier.”

FrankieStein402 · 07/08/2020 22:34

Naked guy chasing a boar - a Bullingdon club member perchance?
(if so retrieving laptop was obviously a cummings eye test excuse)

prettybird · 07/08/2020 22:41

Feuhold (leasehold) was abolished in Scotland c20 years - but in practice it was nothing like English leasehold and most of them had lapsed anyway.

In principle it meant that you might to pay a few pounds per year to the feudal superior (iirc, the amount had been frozen years before). A few rogue people bought old feuholds and then tried to charge the "vassal" for changes to the "burden". The terminology is indeed archane: the superior, the vassal, the burden.

The title deeds of our house state some of the title conditions, which the superior had imposed, like (from memory) no mining (as the mineral rights belonged to the superior), no soap works, tannery, keeping of hens or cows, glue works..... Grin

All the houses built had to be different - although some only have minor differences, or were a mirror image of one further down the street. Before the houses were built, a double skinned wall for the back garden had to be built, in order to define the plot.

It's now a leafy conservation area and we have to get permission even to do tree surgery (let alone take down) on trees with a trunk with a diameter of more than 7.5cm Shock

BigChocFrenzy · 08/08/2020 00:52

BLM is not just about black people being killed - there are other fates .....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/lousiana-court-denies-life-sentence-appeal-fair-wayne-bryant-black-man-hedge-clippers

A black man in Louisianaa* will continue to serve a life sentence in prison for trying to steal hedge clippers
after the state supreme court denied a request to review his sentence.
Fair Wayne Bryant was convicted in 1997 of attempted simple burglary.
....
"If he lives another 20 years, Louisiana taxpayers will have paid almost one million dollars to punish Mr Bryant for his failed effort to steal a set of hedge clippers,”

SabrinaThwaite · 08/08/2020 06:05

What’s £7billion divided by 52?

Westministenders: Don't forget to stockpile. Again.
prettybird · 08/08/2020 08:17

"BJ says that the Covid-19 crisis put the costs in perspective" ShockConfused

So that's ok then? Angry

Fucker Angry

mrslaughan · 08/08/2020 08:19

When are the general public going to wake up that brexit alone is going to make 99% of people so much poorer..... that on top of Covid is going to ruin the UK for decades

JeSuisPoulet · 08/08/2020 08:46

Like a broken record, here to announce another dubious tender www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/07/revealed-uk-rapid-covid-test-not-yet-approved-by-regulators this time data with DNA potentially the payoff UK citizens will have to make to use 90 minute tests that might not even work.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 08/08/2020 09:14

What does he mean, put in to perspective? Presumably he means that comparatively, things costing a bit more for businesses Vs huge numbers of death, the cost is better? Does he not realise it's not either or, it's both?!