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Westministenders: Can you tell your Rs from Elbows?

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RedToothBrush · 01/07/2020 19:38

This week Mark Sedwill has resigned (or was he pushed?) and David Frost (chief brexit lead) was appointed National Security Adviser in a move that enraged Theresa May. The former prime minister felt that his appointment was unprofessional and that was a political appointment not an independent one and that he lacked experience. Of course in terms of national security we still haven't had that report on Russia and I don't believe The Intelligence and Security Committee has yet been named (not sat since Johnson was appointed as PM).

We have passed the deadline for extending transition and we have now apparently said that negotiations on the end of transition will finish at the end of September.

The bill ending Free movement of people has been signed, amongst much fanfare by the Conservatives saying they have delivered on the Referendum promise. However we might have up to 3million Hong Kongers who we are willing to allow into the country which might not go down too well with those who were unhappy with 'unrestricted EU immigration'.

We also have the demonstration of utter incompetence, outsourcing and lack of coordination and communication from central government and local government in the covid-19 crisis. A national scandal that isn't being properly reported by the press and leave you with the very large question of who is this government serving? If its contract with Deloittes over testing didn't require them to report positive tests to Public Health England, what was the point in the testing? How can this be consistent with 'The Government’s new approach to biosecurity will bring together the UK’s world-leading epidemiological expertise and fuse it with the best analytical capability from across Government in an integrated approach.' and will provide real time analysis and assessment of infection outbreaks at a community level, to enable rapid intervention before outbreaks grow.?

The growing feeling that Brexit is being exploited by this government for personal interests and those of big business at the expense of the general public is one which was feared and grows harder to argue against by the day.

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BigChocFrenzy · 04/07/2020 23:10

"he must have done something"

Yep, driving while black

BigChocFrenzy · 04/07/2020 23:12

Sunday papers
(I cba with the booze-up reports, whether celebratory or condemnatory)

Westministenders: Can you tell your Rs from Elbows?
Westministenders: Can you tell your Rs from Elbows?
DrBlackbird · 04/07/2020 23:34

That article and his story was horrific. But fortunately we can be assured by Bojo that there's no racism here in the uk. Luckily he had his dash cam filming. Otherwise he wouldn't stand a chance of being believed. Incredible how quickly the officer over reacted and smashed in his window. Totally about power and you do as I say or else.

DGRossetti · 05/07/2020 10:15

You don't need to fact check this to know that - on balance of probabilities (Sherlock dear, brother mine ... Grin) - it's genuine

Westministenders: Can you tell your Rs from Elbows?
Choux · 05/07/2020 10:31

I have family in Florida who sent me this graphic a few days ago. Sums it up neatly.

edition.cnn.com/2020/06/30/europe/european-union-travel-us-graphic-intl/index.html

Westministenders: Can you tell your Rs from Elbows?
ListeningQuietly · 05/07/2020 16:59

I am not clapping.
There is nothing to celebrate.
Looking forward to getting into the saliva testing though Smile

prettybird · 05/07/2020 17:12

"Clapping" was already being devalued by the hypocrisy of politicians clapping at the same time as undermining the efforts of the NHS workers/voting down salary raises/increasing the health surcharge for the very immigrants required they were supposedly applauding SadAngry - and then completely trashed by BJ saying that we should be applauding bankers as it was the "bankers'" money that would get the economy going again AngryShockAngry

mrslaughan · 05/07/2020 17:52

The bankers money that we're loosing because we no longer have the financial passporting due to no deal? It really does surprise me how incapable is of joined up thinking....
Imagine going through life where your actions have no consequences for yourself? (And your not around to see the consequences inflicted on other)

Hopefully this is a time he does have to face up to the consequences

Peregrina · 05/07/2020 18:29

Instead of clapping, lets see that £350 million a week. Now. Don't say we can't afford it - we could if the will was there.

yoikes · 05/07/2020 18:32

I didn't clap.
The utter hypocrisy of it all is too much for me.
Feeling rather low about the future today.

Peregrina · 05/07/2020 18:37

I didn't clap either. Nor did I hear any neighbours clapping and they used to be quite keen.

quiteathome · 05/07/2020 19:44

I did not clap
I don't think the neighbours remembered.
I have not been on these threads for a while, I read occasionally. However been struggling with it all at times. It all seems very bleak at the moment

mathanxiety · 05/07/2020 19:51

No municipal fireworks anywhere near me last night (Fourth of July). (Bluest region of Blue state.)

We watched Hamilton instead.

BigChocFrenzy · 05/07/2020 19:55

Telling us to clap bankers must have been BJ's idea of a joke

Noone could be that crass
Maybe we should clap them for the 2007/2008 financial crisis as well

  • the one that the rest of us had to pay for with austerity
BigChocFrenzy · 05/07/2020 19:59

More driving while black in Britain - and being assaulted by police:
(at least in Britain, it isn't execution by cop)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/05/met-police-deny-misconduct-after-linford-christie-athletes-stopped

Two black athletes trained by former Olympic champion Linford Christiee^ who were stopped and handcuffed by police officers while with their three-month-old son
are considering legal action,
the Guardian understands.

Video of the incident in Maida Vale, west London, on Saturday, posted by Christie on Twitter,
showed officers telling the occupants of the vehicle, Ricardo dos Santos and Bianca Williams, they were going to be searched,
while the obviously distressed Williams said repeatedly:
“My son is in the car.”

In another tweet, Christie, the most successful British and European sprinter,
said officers stopped the athletes outside their home and assaulted the male driver.

ListeningQuietly · 05/07/2020 20:02

mathanxiety
and yet I've seen video of a firework fight (kids running around holding Roman candles) in Phili
insane

yoikes · 05/07/2020 20:20

Fireworks locally here last night 🙄

Heard a few sirens too which is unusual for our small east mids town.

Interestingly, a few local business owners are putting less than positive remarks about boris and the govt on fb.

Also interestingly a local bistro/bar sacked all their (bame) staff in March. Oddly, none of them were interested in going back yesterday!

I won't be going there again.

I've had a few take out coffees but that's it. I'm not going to support businesses that treat their staff like shit/support boris.

BigChocFrenzy · 05/07/2020 20:40

Dmitry Grozoubinski@DmitryOpines (trade wonk)

Please.
My supply chain. She is very sick.

Joe Mayes**@Joe_Mayes

Scoop: the U.K.'s draft Brexit border plan has no detail on how Dover-Calais lorry traffic would work 1/
< Raab didn't tell BJ where UK food comes from ? >

Britain’s Post-Brexit Border Plan Has a Truck-Sized Hole

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-25/britain-s-post-brexit-border-plan-has-a-truck-sized-hole-in-it?sref=yMmXm5Iy

The government has circulated an 89-page document with industry with its proposals for the U.K.-EU border from 2021, seen by Bloomberg 2/

Curiously, there is just a blank page where there's supposed to be the process for roll-on, roll-off freight
e.g. the ~10,000 trucks that go through Dover-Calais each day.

It's called the `pre-lodgement' model, where customs paperwork is filed electronically in advance 3/

In other words,
4 years on from the Brexit referendum, there is still no confirmed plan for how lorries can seamlessly cross between the U.K. and EU after the divorce 4/

The draft plan is also blank on how the border would work in the first six months to July 2021,
when full import controls kick in, plus on Northern Ireland 5/
.....
But industry is not impressed.
The new regime will kick in for road freight travelling between GB and NI in just 5 months time, with a new IT system.

“The whole thing is just a shambles,”
says @macswineyspeaks, co-chair of a gov-backed working group on EU transition 7/

mathanxiety · 05/07/2020 20:41

Yes indeed, Yoikes, DD3 and I went out for a walk around 10pm - the air was thick with acrid smoke around here from people setting off fireworks in their back yards and in the alleys. It sounded like the Battle of the Somme all night. We've had a few weeks of noise now but last night took the biscuit. The smoke stuck around because we are in the middle of a heatwave without a puff of a breeze. 108°F (42°C) expected in the coming week.

mathanxiety · 05/07/2020 20:42

Yoikes and LQ

JeSuisPoulet · 05/07/2020 21:16

Feel like I'm done from all angles today. Was my b.day and while I know, having been a single mum for 8yrs, there is no cake or special "day" unless I make it, today has just been a massive flop. I booked canoeing, with the dog, to have a "day". Dog was fine, swam twice needing rescuing, had a much better day than me saving her and paddling/keeping us from other boats/nettles/trees etc. Then we get home and a friend and her son biked all the way over to give me wine and chocs! I was thrilled! Long and short is dd went mental because friends son told her I had 1 cig and won't stop going on about it. It wasn't the nicest morning (me trying to fix her 2 bikes and ended up cut and bleeding and low) but I really let rip at her. Just done with all of the never having time out if I'm honest. It was hard when she had school but now...I can't fart without her knowing about it!

JeSuisPoulet · 05/07/2020 21:19

I may have also fired of a drunken angry "well if you want to be a single mum saviour!" message to Dom Cum as well. At this point what do I have to loose?!

JeSuisPoulet · 05/07/2020 21:22

To clarify, message to Dom was about wanting PH not to be so centralised so I can get a fucking job that is 19k plus so I can afford fecking childcare and bloody help considering I, and my cohort, know what the fuck is going on. Atm I am more welcome on the other side of the fecking planet.

JeSuisPoulet · 05/07/2020 21:23

Sorry for sweary ranty post. AM fine, just...distraction for a few minutes.

ListeningQuietly · 05/07/2020 21:26

(((( JeSuisPoulet )))))
Your DD needs a day away from you (or three)
is there a family member or a good friend she can go stay with for two nights

Lockdown has been incredibly hard for those who cannot dilute

Birthdays are hard at times like these
not sure how old you are but my family are picking random other days to take the pressure off
(eg DH plans to celebrate being 666 months old as his Birthday was not a good week)