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Westminstenders: Political vacuums are very bad things

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RedToothBrush · 09/05/2020 23:18

Johnson has been notible (once again) but his absence.

Whilst we appreciate he has been ill and has a new baby, we are in the midst of a national crisis and a sense of leadership and guidance from our prime minister has been lacking.

And its not gone unnoticed.

Not just by the press. And not just by opposition. Nor NHS and care managers. But on the ground where it matters.

The lack of the sense of seriousness has dissipated. The sense of duty to country to behave. The idea that it will some how be all over this week when it doesn't appear to be the government strategy. The total lack of policy for a week whilst it's become clear bit by bit that these things have been under discussion and decided upon prior to the supposed key meeting on Thursday from the announcements from the regional assemblies. All in favour of a TV stunt tomorrow night.

Let's see how that goes.

The grandstanding isn't a substitute for detail and substance in a crisis. And we still have the looming show down at the end of June over extension of transition. More optics. More lack of practicality at a time when things will really be on the brink.

The next month will be telling and we hit the wall of economic reality which will bring the whole world crashing in on the lives of so many people.

This is the calm before the storm. Enough the sunshine. Enjoy the time with families. Before this is over everything will have changed for so many.

This is just the start of things unravelling and it needs someone to take control and draw up solid blueprints for all our futures. Is a man who is so frequently awol from where he is supposed to be and doesn't take commitments and responsibilities seriously, really the man for that?

Churchill had a vision for the country that cited housing as our second social service, the NHS being our first.

Will Johnson manage to some how forge out so grand new venture which gives the resource and rewards it deserves to the NHS (beyond lipservice and empty platitudes and clapping, that recognises the importance of social care and can stop the almost inevitable coming wave of homelessness and unemployment

And can he do it without selling us off as a basement bargain to the us?

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yoikes · 13/05/2020 18:42

Thank you...I'll update when I've used it!

ListeningQuietly · 13/05/2020 18:47

Songsofexperience
I am so sorry about your home and your work situation.
Sadly I think you are just at the front of a very large wave
Flowers

DGRossetti · 13/05/2020 18:50

Is this another sign to the apocalypse ?

Nigel Farage

3h

I have just been told by a care home provider that someone was returned to the home from hospital & later they were told the patient had tested positive. There have been multiple deaths in the building since. Starmer was on the right track today. This is a huge scandal.

Jilljams · 13/05/2020 18:50

Are Taylor Wimpy Tory donors? I’d guess so by the big plug they got from Jenrick at the press conference today.

ListeningQuietly · 13/05/2020 18:51

Today's random update on the UK major road network ....
This morning was self drive hire vans - people are moving themselves in and out of where they are living

This afternoon was fuckwits in tired Skoda estate cars thinking they were the reincarnation of Stirling Moss.
Astounding numbers of REALLY aggressive drivers on the motorway
swerving, not indicating, speeding.
It was like Saturday teatime but at 5pm on a week day

Several recovery vehicles at the side of the road looking after those who have not looked after their cars in a while ....

At work there was a steady stream of angry people phoning in moaning about noise

  • because the closed park is suddenly open again

Its gonna get messy

DGRossetti · 13/05/2020 18:52

Are Taylor Wimpy Tory donors?

Dunno, but they are shit builders who detest disabled people almost as much as poor people.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 13/05/2020 19:13

Farage jumping up and down shouting, Me! Me! Look At Me! I'm over here!

Ignore him and he'll start a new party.

dontcallmelen · 13/05/2020 19:19

Mockers 😂😂

dontcallmelen · 13/05/2020 19:20

Yy with DGR dreadful company, so definitely the sort of bedfellows the Tory party approve of.

boatyardblues · 13/05/2020 19:27

Songs Sorry to hear things are so tough right now. Flowers

RedToothBrush · 13/05/2020 19:34

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-tracing-app-reveals-issues-in-isle-of-wight-trial-11987752
Coronavirus: NHS tracing app reveals issues in Isle of Wight trial
Work is being carried out to address some issues with the app, including its incompatibility with some older Huawei phones.

The app uses a phone's bluetooth technology to register contact when people come within 6ft of one another for at least 15 minutes.

Work is now being carried out to solve several issues with the app. One problem is that it won't run on older phones running systems older than Apple IoS 11 or Android 8.

DH thinks the entire thing is a white elephant that won't achieve what its supposed to...

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BigChocFrenzy · 13/05/2020 19:42

What a surprise Hmm
Hands up, anyone who ever expected this govt App to produce anything useful ...

BigChocFrenzy · 13/05/2020 19:44

Starmer: 😂 🛰

“It’s not me seeking to draw comparisons, these were government slides they used for seven weeks to reassure the public.

For seven weeks when we weren’t the highest in Europe they were used for comparison purposes;
as soon as we hit that unenviable place, they were dropped.”

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 20:01

RTB, I ma (trying t0 ) stay away from teacher bashers for my mental health but popping on here to say thanks and well done for the posts you have recently put on some of the threads. Everyone is in awe of your detailed insight and knowledge and your balance , data driven analyses and you have put a few nasty people back in their boxes.

Thanks.

Talking of (in)ethical employers and exploitation, just seen this.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-52649609

Wonder whether GMB will be vilified for this as the teachers'' unions have been.

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 20:04

(un) ethical!

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 20:05

App won't work on my phone then!

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 20:10

In case that doesn't work!

Westminstenders: Political vacuums are very bad things
ListeningQuietly · 13/05/2020 20:36

From my FB

Westminstenders: Political vacuums are very bad things
mrslaughan · 13/05/2020 20:46

Oh god listening - I have just ranted at a group of friends - who posted a very very unflattering photo of Laura kaunsburg (who I actually don't like as a reporter) - with very unflattering commentary (all based on the war ) ...... and the comments!!! It was disgusting- so I took them to task. I expect to be blocked , but I don't want people like that around me....in real life or virtually- attacking a women for doing her job, calling her a cunt!
Absolutely disgusting
I have checked out if Facebook for the night - but my short time in it, there is a huge amount of pro-Boris propaganda

I far prefer what's appearing in your timeline......

Mistigri · 13/05/2020 20:47

Songs, sorry to hear that. Really shitty of your employer :(

I also have bad news: my uncle, my mum's oldest brother, died of covid 2 days ago. He was 90 with some recent health problems BUT he was living independently until he had a fall recently. Admitted to hospital for a couple of days, discharged to a nursing home, dead of covid within 10 days. So utterly predictable that I tried to prepare my mum a week ago for what might happen :(

I wasn't close to him but I am sad and furious on behalf of my mum. Old people should not still be catching covid in care homes with all that we know now, especially in a nursing home in one of the three least affected counties in England.

Haven't caught up with the thread (not enough hours in the day right now)

AuldAlliance · 13/05/2020 20:53

Mistigri I'm really sorry to hear about your uncle.
Flowers

ListeningQuietly · 13/05/2020 20:57

mrslaughan
I admit that my FB feed is deliberately kept very light.
DGR and I are clearly followers / members of the same groups and pages
but I no longer engage with politics on there.
I'm a member of loads of anti Brexit groups but keep most on 30 day snooze.
I only post openly when real friends already have
and I NEVER get into Covid / Brexit / Party politics discussions
as they just suck my soul
and push DH even deeper into anxiety he has no income till late autumn

These threads are my only political outlet
and for obvious reasons I say as little about myself as possible on them
I find it a healthy system

ListeningQuietly · 13/05/2020 21:00

Mistigri
I am so sorry and angry on your behalf.

My cousin is 57 and under a DNR
In a healthy world she could live decades
with the way Johnson has treated care homes she could be dead in weeks
So horrible Flowers