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Westminstenders: No pubs till Christmas?

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RedToothBrush · 23/04/2020 18:25

Today the news has moved towards acknowledging covid-19 reality: Nicola Sturgeon has explicitly stated that some social distancing will carry on until the new year in all likelihood.

When Matt Hancock asked if this was true for England too, he refused to say yes but he said that Scotland was working from the same framework as England.

In case anyone does still need this spelling out, this means the outlook for the hospitality and leisure industries is bleak.

There are extremely unlikely to be many enjoying a holiday in the sun any time soon, whether it be in Devon or Spain.

We won't be celebrating birthdays in restaurants nor having a pint in the pub.

Conversations on the doorstep from a couple of metres away is as good as it gets.

That means if you can't adapt you may not survive.

To add into the mix changes to customs to those companies who are operating seems insanity. But that's a political not a scientific decision to be made.

Whether reality in this will kick in, in the next six weeks or so before EU budgetary decisions relating to an extension have to be made remains to be seen.

Until then, there is no news but covid-19.

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bigdonna21 · 24/04/2020 21:20

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DGRossetti · 24/04/2020 21:22
Smile
borntobequiet · 24/04/2020 21:29

Welcome new friends. What a robust posting style you have! So refreshing.

yoikes · 24/04/2020 21:31

Evening comrades
Grin

AuldAlliance · 24/04/2020 21:33
Biscuit
Taswama · 24/04/2020 21:33

What was considered offensive about that clip @DGRossetti ? The word cretin?

pointythings · 24/04/2020 21:38

Friday night comedy! Awesome!

AuldAlliance · 24/04/2020 21:40

I think pusys may be my word of the week(end).

MaxNormal · 24/04/2020 21:43

I wonder how it's pronounced? Poo-says? Puss-siss?

gnomeisland · 24/04/2020 22:01

Pewsee, obvs

DrBlackbird · 24/04/2020 22:02

Who would've thought MN warranted Russian bots 🤷‍♀️ My vote is for Poo-says but only if pronounced with dodgy Russian accent.

gnomeisland · 24/04/2020 22:03

Ugh, too much vino.
I'll try again.
Pew-zees

gnomeisland · 24/04/2020 22:04

More Rees-Mogg than Vlad the Impaler

JeSuisPoulet · 24/04/2020 22:05

Certain names do seem to summon them promptly!

BigChocFrenzy · 24/04/2020 22:09

Oooh, that must have smarted:

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52414155

Barnier said the UK negotiating team keeps repeating that they are negotiating as "sovereign equals",
but the "reality" was that an agreement was being sought between a massive bloc and a smaller nation.

AuldAlliance · 24/04/2020 22:10

Pews-eyes, I reckon.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/04/2020 22:10

Just too much vino upthread, I suspect
Who needs the pubs to open ?

Peregrina · 24/04/2020 22:15

Barnier said the UK negotiating team keeps repeating that they are negotiating as "sovereign equals", but the "reality" was that an agreement was being sought between a massive bloc and a smaller nation.

All grist to the mill for the Brexiteers. Nasty EU thwarting us, won't give us a trade deal. (Not that we want one really, more interested in toadying to Trump.)

prettybird · 24/04/2020 22:19

For squid4 - my tulip bed is just coming into its own SmileThanks

Westminstenders: No pubs till Christmas?
ListeningQuietly · 24/04/2020 22:20

I do think that as Covid is discussed as nauseam all over the rest of the site
these threads should revert back to Brexit issues only
as some clarity on them
particularly the international viewpoint would be useful

deadline is only a few weeks away ....

DrBlackbird · 24/04/2020 22:30

You have a point Listening except that we're also seeing overlap between the two a la Cummings and his boy wonder on sage and how covid provides the perfect cover for the debacle of leaving without a deal.

Singasonga · 24/04/2020 22:49

We are seeing the same problems with Covid as anticipated with Brexit: all spin and failure, while wrapped in a flag assuring the public that nothing more could be done for them.

Peregrina · 24/04/2020 22:56

Exactly. It's like a trial run - failures of Just in Time supply lines, for a starters..... Backed up with meaningless soundbites.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/04/2020 23:11

Lewis Goodall@lewisgoodall (BBC Newsnight)

NEW: Downing St denies Guardian story.

Downing St spokesperson says: "It is not true that Mr Cummings or Dr Warner are 'on' or members of SAGE.

DC and DW have attended some SAGE meetings and listen to some meetings now they are all virtual..."

"They do this in order to understand better the scientific debates concerning this emergency and also to understand better the limits of how science and data can help govt decisions.

Occasionally they ask questions or offer help when scientists mention problems in Whitehall."

"Others also listen to meetings without being 'on" or 'members of' SAGE.

SAGE provides independent scientific advice to the govt.
Political advisers have no role in this."

"The scientists on SAGE are among the most eminent in their fields.
It is factually wrong and damaging to sensible public debate to imply their advice is affected by government advisers listening to discussions."

‘The Prime Minister wants his advisers to understand the scientific debates around covid as well as they can for obvious reasons.

‘From the start the government has tried hard to integrate scientific advice into its decision making in a sensible way.
It will continue to do so

‘Public confidence in the media has collapsed during this emergency partly because of ludicrous stories such as this.’

SO Guardian and Downing St have very different version of events.

Whatever the truth, this likely to add to calls for more transparency around SAGE and the decision making process.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/04/2020 23:16

"these threads should revert back to Brexit issues only "

Then we would have nothing to talk about most weeks, because the talks are going nowhere

The UK stopped planning for No Deal some time ago and can't restart that malarkey with a pandemic going on

The EU cba any longer with Brexit when members are dealing with a pandemic that is killing tens of thousands of its citizens

If BJ - or his successor - sees sense and requests an extension, then we have something to discuss

Until then, we can only post the monthly soundbites from Barnier or Frost