Westministenders: Peak something

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Westministenders: Peak something

The story so far

COVID has changed the world for the next few years, like a slowly exploding nuke:

• killed well over 100,000 people
• made many people afraid to leave their home
• caused a Global Depression

Countries locked down because they needed the extra time to

Raise the Line while Flattening the Curve:

1. Flatten the curve of the numbers needing healthcare to a level the system can manage

2. Raise the capacity of their health services and public health systems - their testing and tracking process

Also, scientists desperately needed time to find out more about COVID:
how to avoid it, how to treat it

What happens next ?

Research teams around the world are working to produce a vaccine,
will become hopefully available within the next couple of years

In the meantime, treatment procedures are being developed to better treat COVID sufferers.

Also in the meantime, countries will need to gradually exit lockdown to rescue their economies from complete catastrophe.

Timing & measures for each country will be dependent on:

Death rate after peak,
health service capacity,
testing & tracing capacity etc

....and also what their govt and public deem an "acceptable" level of extra deaths & serious illness.

Possibly some countries will need to cycle in and out of lockdown,
whereas others will be able to accept the death toll with lesser social distancing measures.

The first few countries are already relaxing lockdown,
so the UK will watch, wait and hopefully learn what works and what doesn't

..... then copy these the correct way round

pmk - will compose my thoughts at the end of the week

PMQs with no farmyard noises. Will they dare go back after this?

(in their specially built film-set house of commons when they move out for twenty years? Why not just save the money and keep this arrangement?)

Starmer meanwhile will not chase a good headline in tomorrow's papers but will persue a discourse, coming back to the earlier answers and pointing out their deficiencies. For those with an attention span greater than a concussed bee, it will be entertaining.

PMQs with no farmyard noises. Will they dare go back after this? [] (in their specially built film-set house of commons when they move out for twenty years? Why not just save the money and keep this arrangement?)

Isn't there an ancient principle that the proceedings in parliament are open to the public ? Whats happened to that ?

On a related note (you see about all the questions not being addressed), it's all very well to suddenly have "virtual" courts

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52369709

but what has happened to the maxim about justice being public ?

These are not trivial or distracting questions. As was noted in the disgraceful Dinou case, if the papers hadn't carried it, a very grave injustice would have been done.

Or do I take it from the lack of any comment in any media anywhere (except me on here ) that nobody gives a flying fuck anymore, and we should welcome secret justice and secret government with open arms. And if that's the case, why was anybody even vaguely concerned about all the NDAs last year ? Surely the more the merrier ?

DrBlackbird 💐
A month of symptoms
What a bugger this "just flu" is

I hope you can then take several weeks convalescence, just TLC to rebuild your strength

I'm listening to the scientists actually working on various vaccines for COVID - who seem optimistic atm
and not concerned about the mutations.

If they start warning us it's more difficult than they expected, then I'll get nervous

And of course, I hope MShip will keep her ears to the ground and give us her unofficial opinion as the situation develops

but what has happened to the maxim about justice being public ?

Which was a topic raised by quite a few judges when it came to virtual hearings as I recall, but I don't know what HMCTS decided to do with that concern. It was certainly being considered by the tech team that was working on virtual hearings a couple of years ago.

Parliament is live on the telly for all to see. That is far more open to the public than behind the bullet-proof screen in the public gallery.

(Installed to protect Blair against purple powder and absailing lesbians, but ineffective against fox-hunting posh boys who just get a pass off their uncles.)

...Otis Fucking Ferry should have been beheaded on Tower Green.

...Ditto Charlie Gilmour climbing on the Cenotaph.

(do you see a pattern here?)

I'm listening to the scientists actually working on various vaccines for COVID - who seem optimistic atm and not concerned about the mutations.

Is that because they now know that (a) a vaccine will prevent a second infection and/or (b) second infections won't be as risky as the first ?

Or some other reason ?

Parliament is live on the telly for all to see. That is far more open to the public than behind the bullet-proof screen in the public gallery.

It's also much easier to curate ...

@DrBlackbird bloody hell. Get better soon!

Raab's gone all Trumpy: Why don't we congratulate him for doing such a brilliant job? ....Let me count the ways.

And as for "We have built seven hospitals," like some dodgy landlord with your beds-in-sheds...

Add in a bit of Troopie-Groupie, Oooooh General, may I suck your medals?

And as for "We have built seven hospitals," like some dodgy landlord with your beds-in-sheds...

Shame they couldn't fucking staff them though. I guess after ferry firms with no ferries, they though hospitals without nurse must be A Thing.

Nightingale London is looking like a giant expensive waste of time, since it was built on the assumtion that it could borrow staff from London hospitals. Who'd have thought they might be busy?

Nightingale London is looking like a giant expensive waste of time, since it was built on the assumtion that it could borrow staff from London hospitals. Who'd have thought they might be busy?

I notice no one (else) is doing some sums and working out that 10,000 NHS workers returning to the EU as a result of Brexit exactly equals the shortfall of staff needed in the new hospitals.

It sounded to me (from another thread) as though there are plenty of health staff working in non Covid roles who are currently not hugely busy because lots of other things have stopped, why not use them?

It sounded to me (from another thread) as though there are plenty of health staff working in non Covid roles who are currently not hugely busy because lots of other things have stopped, why not use them?

Probably far too sensible and easy. You really need to make things as complicated and tiresome as possible, or you're probably not doing them right.

Not to mention all the volunteers who've been left hanging after being PR'd at great length.

Many thanks BCF for flowers and MaxNormal. Whilst no actual doctor still wants to see me, maybe the antiobiotics ordered over the phone yesterday in case of 2ndary chest infection will help. Fingers crossed. China must be churning out those pulse oximeters with what sort of quality assurance? At least it'll help improve their economy.

And still no word from or about Johnson?

Goodness. I just spoke to a friend who is a newly qualified nurse. She had COVID signs about 5 weeks ago, had a test that came back negative. They sent her for an X-ray as she was breathless for so long to cover everything and found something on her lungs. This week she went for a CT scan and they found all lung issues had gone (so looks like she got one of the infamous faulty tests IMO) but she has got lumps in her breasts Poor girl only started work 2 weeks ago.

Thanks @TheMShip for taking the time to reply to me. Very exciting work!

Not to mention all the volunteers who've been left hanging after being PR'd at great length

Of course once one cock up has been exposed, it can be hung on the carousel, and popped back up again to divert from any subsequent ones. A veritable Merry-Go-Round of morons.

VetTimes 14April - 5000 vets, VN’s and vet students signed up to work for NHS. Co-ordinating with over 50 hospital trusts.
Remains to be seen how many are needed.

And still no word from or about Johnson?

He was apparently able to speak to Trump - as Gods do. Us mere mortals will have to wait for him to make His pleasure known.

I revise my comparisons from yesterday. This isn't the death of the Roman republic. This is more like the ancient Greek Gods in all their glory - proud, venal, corrupt, amoral, priapic (in Boris' case), jealous and totally prepared to fuck mankind in any hole they could find or make.