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Westministenders: Lockdown continues

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BigChocFrenzy · 09/04/2020 16:32

The UK has been on lockdown since 23 March,
with no end in sight.

The deaths peak is predicted to be around 17 April,
with the controversial IHME prediction that the UK will have considerably more total deaths - 66,000 - by summer than other European countries.

Supermarkets are struggling to satisfy demand for online slots for the vulnerable
and to keep shelves supplied for other customers

Like all countries, the UK economy is being hammered and heading for a deep recession.
Estimates are for UK GDP to fall 15% this year.

A million people have applied for Universal Credit
The self-employed and small - and some large - businesses are struggling to stay solvent.

They don't know how long to plan for.

The PM is in ICU and Raab has taken over as stand-in, but needs Cabinet approval for decisions.
Probably BJ will be unfit to resume his duties as PM for several weeks, if ever.

WIll he stand down soon and let the Cabinet choose a new PM,
or will the UK continue for weeks with a stand-in leader during the worst crisis since WW2

What's the plan, anybody?

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Peregrina · 16/04/2020 15:43

Pre WW2 - if you didn't actively question and speak out, you enabled it to happen.

Speaking out is costly though, but if we spoke out sooner, it would be less costly.

BigChocFrenzy · 16/04/2020 15:47

New THREAD:

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eureferendumm2016/3882267-Westministenders-Peak-something?watched=1

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Tanith · 16/04/2020 15:50

"I might mind an awful fucking lot paying for a service that I am prevented from using. Particularly if that prevention is part of a political decision."

But parents aren't being prevented from using state education for their children. The BBC has been asked to create educational programmes for the children to use and schools are sending out work from next week, as they did at the end of last term.

I'm a childminder and even I am sending out ideas, planning and activities for the children who can't attend.

It all has to be paid for, so I doubt anyone will see a tax rebate just because the schools are physically closed.

DGRossetti · 16/04/2020 16:02

But parents aren't being prevented from using state education for their children. The BBC has been asked to create educational programmes for the children to use and schools are sending out work from next week, as they did at the end of last term.

Yes. So parents mothers that once had a job, will need to quit that in order to curate the new-look no-school education system ?

It all has to be paid for, so I doubt anyone will see a tax rebate just because the schools are physically closed.

But the suggestion is not that the schools close. Well,. not for everyone. Just for some pupils (and the parents that come with them).

From BCFs post ...

Possibly schools will be opened again only for those who are low risk to themselves and to staff,

ListeningQuietly · 16/04/2020 16:23

So nice healthy Tory voters get their kids educated
but the poor and left behind get further left behind
to claim benefits and be demonised

Cummings wet dream is coming true

Tanith · 16/04/2020 16:23

"So parents mothers that once had a job, will need to quit that in order to curate the new-look no-school education system ?"

No, that's not what's happening at the moment. Parents are still expected to carry on working. I see no reason why that expectation won't continue.
They're doing it in a variety of ways as far as I can see.
One of our families is staggering their working hours so that one parent can look after the children while the other works.
Some are working when the kids are in bed.
Some children don't need that much supervision. Mine are old enough to be left to get on with what the school/college has sent them, though the youngest is 10 and needs checking to make sure she's not watching Malory Towers when she should be doing maths!
Some are juggling childcare while they work - hence the amusing clips of interviews being gatecrashed by children and cats.

It's education that's enshrined in law, not the attendance at a school building, and that's still accessible.

At the moment, the schools and childcare settings are open to the children at higher risk: vulnerable children and the children of key workers. I imagine that the children told to stay at home will be the ones at very high risk on the shielded list. The rest will be expected to attend when the schools open.

DGRossetti · 16/04/2020 16:30

No, that's not what's happening at the moment. Parents are still expected to carry on working. I see no reason why that expectation won't continue.

It's probably me being a bit dim. I guess age does that. But how does the parent of a 6 year old carry on working at their cashiers job while the six year old is at home being educated ?

Or are we going to turn the clock back over a century, and set up a system where the teachers teach the older kids, who then go next door to teach the younger kids.

Thinking about it, a lot of schools probably sit on prime real estate ... I wonder how much there is to be made by developers building their "city living" complexes there ?

Wow ! I must be a maverick. What's "the Doms" instagram ?

ListeningQuietly · 16/04/2020 16:52

Thinking about it, a lot of schools probably sit on prime real estate ... I wonder how much there is to be made by developers building their "city living" complexes there ?
Gordon Brown already did that when the cities depopulated in the late 90's - hence why London school places are such a shambles

Tanith · 16/04/2020 17:30

This is the guidance from the Government - they updated it this afternoon:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/closure-of-educational-settings-information-for-parents-and-carers

Using school land for development has been happening for decades. When I was at school in the mid-eighties, they were merging schools and selling off sites that were no longer in use. I seem to remember a campaign at the time for those schools who were so cash-strapped, they were selling off playing fields.

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