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Brexit

For those of us quietly sad about leaving the EU.

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DioneTheDiabolist · 30/01/2020 23:42

I'm not making a song and dance about it. I'm not falling out with anyone over it. I dont want to debate it. I'm just sad about it.

And that's ok.

Anyone else with me?

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Hester54 · 31/01/2020 17:41

Funkycats is it wrong to wave your national flag ?
I could imagine that NF has had some bad things said to him from fellow EU members and was getting his own back,
GV has said some anti U.K. things along the way

smemorata · 31/01/2020 17:41

European citizens are welcome here, who said they’re not?

It doesn't matter what you think as an individual. European citizens have been made to feel unwelcome. This, for me, is the worst aspect of Brexit.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48692863

Hester54 · 31/01/2020 17:41

TheGreatWave Why? I really interested to know

DioneTheDiabolist · 31/01/2020 17:44

Hester, this is a thread for those of us quietly sad about leaving the EU to congregate and express our sadness. You asked why we are sad and have received answers.

Thank you for your contribution, but if you need more information/detail/clarification, then start your own questioning thread.

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Haffdonga · 31/01/2020 17:48

I am quietly very sad Sad

And I am not going to spend another minute explaining why. If you don't understand or can't empathise then I'm sure you never will.

Robotindisguise · 31/01/2020 17:49

I’ll tell you one thing that devastated me. That my main earning years have been blighted by the massive Ponzi scheme of the financial crisis and now just as we should, by rights, have been pulling out of it, we have committed an enormous, pointless act of economic self-harm. In 3 years, £130 billion has come out of the economy because of Brexit:
fullfact.org/europe/online-cost-brexit-net-contributions/

Once the deal has been finalised I foresee an economy not unlike the US, with poor people having a shit life and a vocal elite banging on about the moral superiority of tax cuts. It’s not the uk I believed it was.

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/01/2020 17:49

Go be happy elsewhere Hester

It's shitty to come to this thread on this day and repeatedly ask people to justify their feelings. I'm sure there's a gloating thread somewhere.

Subtractingcalories · 31/01/2020 17:50

I guess if you're someone who lives in Britain with no plans to leave, is married to someone British, works in Britain, goes on holiday once or twice a year and plans to retire here then I can see why perhaps you wouldn't think it's a great loss.

What like 99% of U.K. people

Huge numbers of Brits have connections to Europe through work, family, marriage and ...

... even if you hardly ever leave the UK , your life could still potentially be affected in all sorts of ways by being outside of the EU. To take one obvious example, half of our food is imported, what is going to happen to the food we import from Europe and sell in our supermarkets in terms of availability and price? Have a look at the very well written report by the House of Lords EU Committee here

Hester54 · 31/01/2020 17:51

DioneTheDiabolist Ok

Haffdonga I quess I never will, that’s why I was asking, to try to understand

MarshmallowManiac · 31/01/2020 17:51

I feel really sad today. It just feels that now as a country we don't welcome new people from different cultures, and with different beliefs and opinions. It feels like a totally different Britain that I grew up in, where we welcomed difference and diversity, and we learnt and grew and thrived from it. It's a sad, sad day.

Hester54 · 31/01/2020 17:53

MrsTerryPratchett Why are you so nasty, I am not and have not been gloating

ListeningQuietly · 31/01/2020 17:55

Hester54
Why don't you just go back to the politics Board and order a drink from Lily in the Arms.

We are not all piling into the Pro Brexit thread to hassle you
Why do you feel the need to gload and goad on this thread ?

Notonthestairs · 31/01/2020 17:57

Hester I have no relatives living in the EU, I don't work for an EU organisation etc, etc.

I'm sad that we have wasted 200 billion (70 billion to be spent this year) on leaving - and there are no practical benefits that can be pointed to right now (and none on the horizon).

I'm sad that whilst sucking up all that public money it's dominated politics for more than 3 years when we should have been focusing on building up the economy, sorting healthcare and housing.

I'm sad that some EU nationals feel uncomfortable living here.

Actually I'm not sad, I'm angry.

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/01/2020 17:58

Why are you so nasty

Because rather than just being quietly sad, I'm now angry that Leavers can't give us one little corner. Your disingenuous wide-eyed pretence that you just can't understand... have you had your head under the blankets for the past few years?

lonesomeBiscuit · 31/01/2020 18:00

What a lovely thread - I'm feeling desperately sad, but comforted to know that I am not the only one feeling this way.

FWIW an staunch leaver friend of mine is also depressed and angry tonight as although he still stands by his reasons for voting leave, he had thought it would be implemented competently and can see what a complete and utter shit show we are headed for

Subtractingcalories · 31/01/2020 18:01

So what I can assume is the people that are sad either work in the EU, work for Eu or companies that are EU funded, or are married to EU citizens

Some of them yes but not all by any means. Don't you understand that EU legislation (that we in many cases proposed and helped to form and ratify) touches all aspects of our lives in the UK, from the welfare standard of our livestock, the manufacturing standards of our food and the toys your children play with, to the medicines your family take, to the cleanliness of our beaches (to name but a few). If you are happy to trust the UK government to manage those things without any outside verification (after all they have done so well with social care, the NHS, our transport network etc) then fair enough, be happy!

Subtractingcalories · 31/01/2020 18:02

That's interesting about your friend lonesomebiscuit

Startoftheyear2020 · 31/01/2020 18:03

Feeling very down this evening, thanks for the thread.

Milicentbystander72 · 31/01/2020 18:04

I think sad does actually sum it up for me.

I'm not raving mad, angry or cutting myself from people who voted differently etc.....but I do feel sad.

I believe that there will good things and bad things to come - I don't think it will be sunlit uplands for everyone, but neither do I believe it will the zombie apocalypse either.

I just would rather we stayed. Oh well.

LOLeater · 31/01/2020 18:04

Feeling sad too for the young people who won’t have the opportunities my generation has had. Those youngsters didn’t have a vote and Brexit will affect their lives significantly and not for the better.

Listen carefully and you’ll hear Putin laughing....

Funkycats · 31/01/2020 18:05

Some of us are also sad about friends or simply other people who we know are suffering due to the implications of brexit, as described above by subtracting
It's called empathy.

Skyejuly · 31/01/2020 18:06

I feel sad too.

Danetobe · 31/01/2020 18:07

I'm mostly sad when I hear from EU 27 nationals that they no longer feel welcome in the UK, which I think up till 2016 was renown for the most welcoming and friendly place for foreigners in the EU. A truly confident and welcoming society and people. Not any more - the UK seems petulant and paranoid.

Copperas · 31/01/2020 18:07

Led by donkeys, look after our star - so sad and so powerful

ExpletiveDelighted · 31/01/2020 18:08

So what I can assume is the people that are sad either work in the EU, work for Eu or companies that are EU funded, or are married to EU citizens

None of these apply to me. There is no way I trust the UK government to do any of the things that @Subtractingcalories has listed as well as the EU does. This is the biggest act of folly imaginable by a government that couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery.

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