What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

[Pumperthepumper]

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please

[Disfordarkchocolate]

Honestly, less debate about remain/leave. I fully expect that debate to just change a bit though.

[Peregrina]

The debate has moved on mostly from Remain or Leave - it's mostly now about what can we do to mitigate the horrors of what many of us expect to be a hard right, downright cruel and undemocratic government.

[KenDodd]

Actually one thing I am genuinely looking forward to after Brexit is when all the racists, who voted for Brexit because they hate foreigners realise immigration doesn't reduce. All they will have done is replace white European Christians (who that hate) with brown Asian Muslims (who they really, really hate). I just can't wait for that to dawn on them.

And before anyone whingers, I know, not all leave voter are racist.

[Peregrina]

Me too KenDodd, and we will be able to say to them in a puzzled voice, "But this is what you voted for."

If Johnson tries to fulfil his pledge of 50,000 more nurses, immigration is virtually the only way he can do it in less than 4 years, and EU immigrants have been made unwelcome.

[Jason118]

If Johnson tries to fulfil his pledge

Very good, I see what you've done there.....

[Pumperthepumper]

and EU immigrants have been made unwelcome.

No they haven’t! Well, only if they want to try and make Britain their home. We can’t have that, obviously.

On the other thread someone suggested that he’s changed his mind about that in the last few days anyway, and now wants immigrants in the UK to know they are welcome here. So I think it’s probably best if you just pick which Boris you feel is the most honest.

[Paddington68]

All the NHS money.
Champagne while you wait.

[AuldAlliance]

You're on to something there: the advantage of a PM who lies as easily as he breathes is that you can grasp at a different straw when he changes tack.
I suppose that's something to be positive about?

[MustardScreams]

No tampon tax obviously! And... err... that’s it.

I have an Irish passport though thank fuck.

[Voila212]

Mustard we don't pay tampon tax here in Ireland.

[AlexaShutUp]

Rejoining the EU in a few years time.

[greenlobster]

The unicorns!
I'm going to fence of a piece of the sunlit uplands and raise a whole herd of them so I'll have something to eat when the chlorinated chicken arrives

[Pumperthepumper]

No, greenlobster there will be no chlorinated chicken - didn’t you pay attention? That is definitely not one of the things that we’ll be getting. No reduction in food standards, Boris Johnson was very clear about that. Like the bus, very clearly printed with how much money is going to the NHS.

He makes it really clear so he can’t lie about it later.

[Peregrina]

Boris and honest do not belong in the same sentence.

[Peregrina]

Chlorinated chicken might force more of us into vegetarian or vegan ism which might be one of the unlooked for bonuses.

In terms of his 50,000 nurses though, that is on a par with the £350 million a week with the NHS and is something that the Opposition parties, when they get their act together, should be able to hold against him.

[YeOldeTrout]

I'm curious how it will all turn out. The narrative. So I'll know the end of the story. I'll like that.

[greenlobster]

No reduction in food standards, Boris Johnson was very clear about that.

Oh I totally believed Boris on that, I mean who wouldn't? He's been proved to be so trustworthy after all. I am 100% sure that all food in the UK post-brexit will be to exactly the same standard as Pedigree Chum is now.

[ivykaty44]

UK will have complete sovereignty to set its own laws and govern itself.

Accept we want to join the WTO who have a secret unelected court that can tell the UK what to do.... if of course they still exist

[lonelyplanetmum]

Take back control
Get Brexit done
Pedigree chum is yum

Repeat it enough and we will swallow it...

[Brittany2019]

I’m looking forward* to a lot of cheap properties coming on the market when the Brits with holiday homes/second homes/not been here long enough for permanent residency-homes in France are forced to move back to the U.K. Also, the savings to the French social security system for not having to pay medical costs for all those retirees. Ker-ching!



*not actually looking forward. I feel desperately sorry for those people. Except for the ones who voted for Brexit while they themselves lived in mainland Europe. They can fuck right off.

[MysteryTripAgain]

I am referring to May's signing, because something lying on a statute book unused only has potential consequences. May's action brought those consequences about. When talking about A50 this is what most of us are referring to, but I admit there are posters for whom things have to be spelt out

The statute book you refer to (Article 50) was passed into EU Law on 1 December 2009 and accepted by all EU members. If any of the members thought departure form the EU by any of the other members would be a disadvantage they had the opportunity to say so at the time. Not one member (Ireland included) objected.

To complain 10 years later is way too late.

T Mays notification to the EU of the UK’s intention to leave the EU was in accordance with section 1 of Article 50 subsequent to the result of the referendum held 23 June 2016 in which the majority of interested voters voted to leave the EU.

Johnson’s huge victory in the recent election demonstrated that the will of the UK people to leave the EU had not changed since June 2016.

UK’s departure from EU is to be done in accordance with Article 50 which is EU Law. GFA is not part of EU law. Hence the reason GFA was not referenced in Article 50.

Section 3 of Article 50 states that if the member who has served notice to leave and the EU are unable to agree a deal, then the member leaves the EU without a deal. All treaties, laws and agreements that existed between the EU and the leaving member lapse instantly.

This is Ireland’s problem as EU law states there must be border controls between EU and Non EU countries as exist in Eastern Europe. Such action by Ireland has no connection to UK whatsoever as they are no longer an EU member and can’t be held responsible for directives issued by Brussels to other EU member states.

WTO have stated they will not require either Ireland or the UK to install a hard border in Ireland. However, WTO does not overrule EU law.

France and Germany are aware of this conundrum and hence suggested that NI must remain in the SM and CU. Impossible of course as NI is a member state of UK which has left the EU.

Best solution would be for EU to agree a free trade deal with the UK.

[Peregrina]

Yawn. WTO is no longer quorate. UK doesn't want a free trade deal.

[SylvanianFrenemies]

Eames-style chairs and the like will be cheaper as not protected by licensing conditions, I believe.
Also...
Time off work when I am rationing my insulin.
Learning how to cook roadkill.

[MysteryTripAgain]

UK doesn't want a free trade deal

According to Gove it will be complete by end of next year?

However, I think the time frame is optimistic.

[KenDodd]

@MysteryTripAgain

Johnson’s huge victory in the recent election demonstrated that the will of the UK people to leave the EU had not changed since June 2016.

Remain/second referendum parties got more votes than Leave parties.