What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

[Pumperthepumper]

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please

The inward investment is going to come from the billions saved from funding the failing EU.

I don't think that's what 'inward investment' means. No matter how you bend it.

Well its not going to cone from foreign sources, unless of course we are going to count foreign firms buying UK ones (as the fdi figures do).

Increased investment that is, not inward investment.

What will attract this?

Lower workers rights etc?

I suppose I might lose weight from the food shortages

Never hearing the word Brexit again?

Whatever they try to rename it, it will still be Brexit. And shit.

It's like boasting that you have saved the cost of your season ticket by quitting your job.

And now you are free at last to persue all the opportunities that will beat a path to your door now they know you're planning on staying in all day.

At least will will get lots of razor clams

What we have to do here is give them a fancy Spanish name, and then the Brexiters can kid themselves they are on the Costas instead of Blackpool, or Skegness.

Spoots, as they say in Scotland.

2020 Brexit timetable - average timescale for finalising a trade deal is 5-7 years. No wonder the EU are now saying there may be an extension.

January 31: The UK leaves the European Union

Early February: The European Commission is expected to publish its draft mandate for the UK/EU trade negotiations

Late February: Possible EU summit to confirm mandate for trade and set post-Brexit EU spending.

March: Trade negotiations due to begin.

March 26/27: EU summit to discuss the early progress of the talks

June 18: EU summit to decide whether an agreement can be reached by December 31 or if an extension is required.

July 1: Deadline for a decision on whether to extend the transition period past December 31 by this point

December 31: The transition period ends. If there is no trade deal with the EU in place the UK does business under World Trade Organisation rules until one is agreed.

The WTO is a broken, no court to rule on trade disputes. Could be very difficult to rely on WTO rules

malylis
run along now
How rude - luckily you missed me - I went out.

The data you used was prior to changes in Erasmus

We will have to rely on my Erasmus data - you haven't provided any!

The Sutton Trust report you referred to doesn't mention Erasmus - you forgot about the second half of my point in any case, "have a part-time job." Was that mentioned in the report? Quite difficult to give up your £400 pm term-time job to study in Europe for a year.

Looking for peanuts in poo clav?

The majority of low income students live away from home, being low income they will get the full loan, full loan plus erasmus funding works out at over 1k per month.

That's using your data.

Keep trying dearie.

The first paragraph from your report:

•The majority of young people (55.8% in 2014/15) stay local for university; attending a university less than 55 miles away from their home address.Only one in ten students attend a university over 150 miles from home

previous poster:

"My ds benefitted from erasmus last year. We are a working class household, income less than 30k." "I'm on 8.40 an hour, dh not much more."
"It doesn't cost absolutely nothing. Ds got 280 a month from erasmus took the full loan and we still sent him money every month. Erasmus if free but to say a year abroad costs the family nothing is wrong."

You haven't read the report, staying local does not mean living at home. That figure is dealt with later and over 50 percent of low income students live away from home.

Try again.

One person may have sent money, they may have sent money otherwise. it doesn't mean that full load plus erasmus isn't enough. It is. Over 1k per month is enough in most European universities, it may not be in all.

Keep digging or copy and pasting

You haven't read the report
The report hasn't got any Erasmus stats!

No but the report has the stats on low income students living away from home.

Your entire point is that erasmus doesn't benefit low income students because "many" live at home (the majority don't) and don't take maintenance loans.

Awww poor clav, can't copy and paste your way out of this one? Someone can actually use data?

I was also able to give accurate figures on what the average erasmus funding plus full loan would give you.

Over 1k per month including holidays (where you can go home to work).

Furiously googling away?

I was quoting from the UK Higher Education International Unit (Universities UK International);

"many students—especially less privileged ones and those who undertake part-time employment alongside their studies—do not see going abroad as a practical possibility."

Many of the year-long study programmes are competitive - another barrier for disadvantaged students.

I was also able to give accurate figures on what the average erasmus funding plus full loan would give you.Over 1k per month including holidays (where you can go home to work).

Goodness knows why people complain about the cost of attending university in England - big fuss about nothing according to you.

But many doesn't mean a majority nor does it mean that it is out of reach. As pointed out the full loan plus erasmus is generous.

The point about the cost of attending university is not to the point. Most if the debate around the cost of attending surrounds fees.

The quote you linked says "they do not see" this doesn't mean that they couldn't if they investigated it. As shown by my figures.

Keep trying.

The point about the cost of attending university is not to the point. Most of the debate around the cost of attending surrounds fees.

A £9,000 pa loan is but a trifle - according to you!

Keep trying
I'm bored now - things to do.

Running away again.

Didn't say 9k was a trifle ( you are moving the goal posts tsk tsk, how sad). I said the main debate over uni costs is the fees (not paid during erasmus either.)

So, your arguments are null and void, most low income students live away from home, the vast, vast majority will receive the fill grant which plus erasums provides a lot of money to live on.

Run along dearie, we'll play some more as soon as you can actually use the data you google.

Not being part of the EU means that the government of the day will be 100% accountable for the shit they pull

This. And maybe being able to afford a house a few years down the line, if the housing market cools off a bit (I realise it might well go the other way). Luckily DH and I both work in industries that are unlikely to be massively affected by a recession - you still need key workers. Expecting the intervening few years to be rough though, and we are certainly not hoping for an all-out house price crash.

The government are never going to be 100 percent accountable for the shit they pull.

See the EU rules about state aid? The same as the WTO rules or any agreements made in trade deals.

We have a whole future of the EU being blamed for everything. Its not fair will be the wail like the petulant child.

See the way the tories still erroneously blame labour overspending for the deficit in 2010 and day that austerity is necessary? A decade on?

Brexit is going to make that look like a short amount of time.