What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

[Pumperthepumper]

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please

We're in Scotland, voted to remain. Couldn't vote tory if you gave us a million pound.

Any child at a European University can do Erasmus
many families call it "year in Europe" or "placement in Europe"
it costs the family absolutely nothing
every family with children at University will know about it
a fantastic scheme that I think will carry on as the EU universities like to have Brits

It doesn't cost absolutely nothing. Ds got 280 a month from erasmus took the full loan and we still sent him money every month. Erasmus if free but to say a year abroad costs the family nothing is wrong.

I do assert, however, that irrespective of geographical location, FOM has acted as a 'supressor' on the wages of the T&Cs of the UK Low Paid

Nonsense! i'm not low paid or in an industry that has been affected by FOM/immigration but haven't had a pay rise in years! ... the GFC has been used/blamed to suppress wages by greedy bosses, who have awarded themselves massive pay rises at the same time.... so look at Chris Dawson - the Range, Persimmon and Bet365......? or the billions made by numerous other companies, yet still pay poor wages.

The low paid have ironically done better than most as they have seen regular above inflation pay rises because of the min wage, differentials have collapsed, we'll all be earning the MW if this carries on.

Its naive to think Brexit will be some magic wand, righting the wrongs of corporate UK....you need to realise that many employers would pay nothing at all if they could.

Don't worry folks I'm sure your dc will continue to be able to explere all of the many things that life has to offer.

I seek the same for my own ds, we just have to find a different way through things, due to his autism - but we're fine - we've negotiated and fought a path through way more nonsense than anything that The Brexit provides for most.

every family with children at University will know about it

Oh that would be why we didnt know...ds1 now in his third year is the first of us to go to uni

And jas - I agree that we all have our own perspective - mine differs from yours. I don't think your POV is nonsense, and is one that should be considered, although I disagree with it.

And I think that if you afford the same considerations to my POV - there we might find a way forwards.

@Hatels I notice you haven't actually provided any counter argument or maybe you cannot? after all, its irrefutable Director pay has risen by historically large amounts over the last 10 to 15 years.....yet employee pay has (generally) stagnated..... even in industries where there are still labour shortages, say care work.

As to Erasmus, whether we have access to this or not will be dependant on future negotiations, likewise EHIC.

However, Johnson looks like he will provide my DD with an extra 5k next year or rather he will restore some of the cuts made during Austerity, welcome nonetheless.

Access to Erasmus will depend upon the UK paying in to the communal Erasmus pot, as other non-EU countries do.

Given the general UK view that it's a scheme for rich students and the likely other financial priorities post-Brexit, that isn't a certainty.

As to the EU liking hosting UK students, I'm not so sure. Since the introduction of fees in English universities, they have been increasingly difficult to deal with, IME, as they are accustomed to being "customers" rather than beneficiaries of a public service.
They also increasingly require mental health provision and support that universities in some EU countries cannot offer.

Also, since the whole issue of whether EU students will be able to go to the UK post-Brexit has been up in the air since 2016/17, with uncertainty increasing as each deadline has been extended and an overall impression that the UK is not a welcoming place for EU citizens, many EU universities have started looking elsewhere for student/staff mobility.

The recent launch of the European Universities Initiative and the creation of 17 consortia, in which only 3 UK universities are involved, means that EU students will also probably get better funding (including from Erasmus) to go elsewhere.

Erasmus funding doesn't necessarily cover the whole cost of mobility, though it can do: sometimes the funds available in a university are shared between those going on mobility.
How much an individual receives will therefore depend on how many students actually participate that semester/year.
In some countries it is also linked to parents' revenue. And in some countries it can be supplemented by grants and other state/regional/local funding.

I didn't know erasmus is seen as a rich kids thing. We're in Scotland and ds was the only one of his pals to go anywhere. We're a low income family. I don't really get the previous poster saying they hadn't heard of it, ds is the first in the family to go to uni too. I could see online his course had the option of spending 3rd Yr abroad. And where he could go. In 2nd Yr he asked uni about it and they told him about erasmus, though I'd googled help with funding already. He missed getting the higher level by a whisker. Although he gets a bursary on top of his loan as we're below income of 34k a year.
Erasmus gave him an opportunity we could never have afforded privately.

The erasmus as a rich kids thing is used by leave voters to create the idea that the EU only benefits the well off. Its along the same lines as when they talk about cheap nannies, and areas that are blighted by immigration creating too much pressure on services.

Of course they can never tell you where these areas are, backed with evidence. Just like they can never prove that only rich kids go on erasmus.

I don't really get the previous poster saying they hadn't heard of it, ds is the first in the family to go to uni too

If that was me i said that maybe thats why I hadn’t heard of it...

Maybe we missed it on the course, maybe it wasnt on his course...dunno

Rufus
It does depend on the course
but his Uni need a telling off if they were not making it known to all students just in case

The Erasmus amount must vary because the students I know of on it got their Erasmus money that covered all bills
and they did not need a tuition fee loan that year because they were not paying UK fees

but his Uni need a telling off if they were not making it known to all students just in case

They probably did...he is an adorable child but fucking useless at remembering stuff 😀

I think also with erasmus that students have to actively want to participate. The opportunities will be mentioned, but they don't send letters home to mum so that it can be discussed at home too. Loads of students aren't that bothered by it as there are higher priorities

We're in Scotland, voted to remain. Couldn't vote tory if you gave us a million pound

More Scots voted to remain in the UK than voted to remain in the EU.

More Scots voted to remain in the UK than voted to remain in the EU.

But that was when they were told that staying in the UK would guarantee they remained in the EU. Who knows how the vote would have gone had they been told that voting to stay in the UK would mean leaving the EU.

The argument about not allowing Scots another Indyref because the last 1 was only in 2014 is disingenuous. We we all know that the UK is a very different place now, with a very different future ahead of it. That's not what most Scots chose.

More Scots voted to remain in the UK than voted to remain in the EU

More people voted to stay in the EU than voted Tory..... whats your point?

Using the raw numbers of Scots who voted in two different referendums is disingenuous.

Of those who voted a higher percentage voted to remain in the EU than who voted to remain in the UK.

More people voted to stay in the EU than voted Tory..... whats your point?

So why did the remain parties not form a coalition government to keep Boris out?

But that was when they were told that staying in the UK would guarantee they remained in the EU. Who knows how the vote would have gone had they been told that voting to stay in the UK would mean leaving the EU

Current figures have not changed since 2014 referendum.

55% still want to remain in UK

Of those who voted a higher percentage voted to remain in the EU than who voted to remain in the UK

But turnout in 2016 referendum was much lower than in 2014.

The physical number of Scots who voted to remain in the UK in 2014 is greater than those who voted remain in 2016.

Confusing the two results for your own ends is not accurate.

You also don't know if 55 percent still want to be in the UK because there has not been a referendum since 2014, extrapolating results from other votes, and from polls is highly inaccurate.

Mystery is desperate.

Its funny