What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

[Pumperthepumper]

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please

Not hearing about Brexit anymore.

Yes that's it.

That toaster ....pretty fab.

That's what we can all most look forward to. 'Twas worth it after all!

Oh that looks good listening but would it take up a lot of space? Maybe there should be inspectors employed to measure the bread before it's out on the shelf? Job opportunities and perfectly measured bread- win win..

Viola
Watching immigrant expat Brits arguing over them in southern European hotel buffets is one of life's pleasures

I’m perplexed about bread sizes being the fault of the EU. Regular Hovis fits in my toaster. Yet the lovely bread I buy from my local bakery doesn’t. Are they a secret den of EU iniquity?

What's that Scottish bannock bread business? Any issues there following their next ref. Or don't you toast bannock?

Fed up with Brexit consuming the news and the Government for far too long. Let’s just get on with it now and deal with any issues as they arise.

Mystery I have more concerns about some medications and supplies than anything. We can’t stockpile them and to date there is no clear plan for bringing some of it in.

We do now have a plan for bringing in radioisotopes by plane post Brexit. This will likely be a more costly way of doing it but at least the supplies are guaranteed. My guess is they will do the same for anything else medical we don’t produce but require regular supplies of. There could an opening here for British manufacture for some items.

Some things which were predicted were based upon us actually leaving which we have yet to do so the impact is as yet still unknown. Bankruptcy, house price crashes etc ...we can’t say yet if any of these things will occur or not simply because we haven’t yet left.

Personally I don’t think it will be as black as painted but nor do I think it will be amazingly rosy.

I am hoping for a middle of the road outcome and from what I can see Boris Johnson will go for the best option possible to make his life as easy as possible. It won’t be as extreme as Farage wanted but they will shut him up with a peerage. In short the Govt will go for the best deal they can to minimise disruption to life in the UK. No Deal maybe a two year transition and negotiation for a Brexit lite....nothing would surprise me anymore.

I know Listening and God forbid if they put it back for a second toasting!!!

Well it's not really the EU's fault, so I'm not EU-blaming, it's more a part of being more pro-UK in our post-Brexit world. I'm not so sure that the carbon footprint caused by the just-in-time and supply-chain economic models is worth it. So we need to start regenerating our deprived areas that previously were our manufacturing and industrial regions.

We need to make more of our own stuff - like toasters, toothbrushes and shavers.

But the carbon footprint of multiple small inefficient factories is higher than that of one large highly efficient one

same with farming

same with cities versus dispersed rural areas

specialism brings efficiency in all aspects of production
big factories produce multiple items for multiple suppliers highly efficiently
not all of us can afford Dualit items

The problem there Hatels is would that make the product more expensive? Would people be willing to pay more? Also to sell these products in Europe they would have to be of EU standard, which defeats one of the reasons for Brexit.

Scottish independence.

@HatelsNotGood

It would be brilliant if the UK had more productive production businesses but it doesn’t and industry won’t wait for the years it would take for this to happen. The UK’s supply chain works on a JIT approach and one minute of stopped production time in the UK’s car industry would amount to 54,700 euros (£50,000).

If there is there is now the likely no deal Brexit, car companies have already said production would be moved out of the UK with the subsequent huge job losses and further destruction of the UK economy.

I live outside the UK and only come back to visit friends and family. I‘m looking forward to nice favourable exchange rates so I can afford to bring back lota of goodies.

What's the point in even debating this?

No Brexit in January, or at least nothing tangible will change during the transition period....

We're at least a year from any final arrangements, and nobody has any ideas what they may look like.

No Brexit in January, or at least nothing tangible will change during the transition period....
But we get our 50p coins
And passports will change
And number plates and driving licences will change
And the easy trade deals will start piling up

Scottish independence
Ireland reuniting
Welsh independence

We need to make more of our own stuff - like toasters, toothbrushes and shavers.

What - repatriate manufacturing from China?

Trying to buy into the new Tory voter dream - I suppose we can start to increase manufacturing....who will work in the factories etc? We don't have high unemployment so we'd need to increase the birth rate or bring in lower skilled immigrants?

I suppose reducing workers rights as is proposed and perhaps reducing the minimum wage would help us compete with Asian manufacturing?

Look, re Toastergate: I have had my Dualit 4 slice toaster for at least 35 years. If any of this Brexit nonsense means I have to change it, I shall be writing to the Daily Telegraph in the strongest terms.

I understand and acknowledge all the points raised by PPs here. However, given that globally, from the climate change and environmental perspective, we all need to start doing things differently.

This does mean huge shifts in how we do things now. If I lay blame at any door, it would firstly be on all of us, who have so willingly accepted the Consumerism and the Globalization of Production, each of which I also 'blame' or give as reasons why we have got to the Environmental 'emergency' we have now.

I question the JIT, supply chain production back and forth Model of Production and Provision as being the best way of delivering the much needed changes that we all, globally, need to make.

Local production and consumption=good; Re-use and Repair=good;
Good for the Environment.

And yes Peregrina repatriating manufacturing from China sounds like a very good idea. Do we really need so much 'stuff' anway?

Do we really need so much 'stuff' anway?
No.
So why repatriate the manufacturing at all.
Why not just have the 40% increase in costs as the driver
and not have the pollution of manufacturing in the UK or China

Or develop methods of production that aren't so environmentally destructive? Where BTL means Built to Last and not Buy To Let.

I don't see anything wrong with these ideas - the problems arise when we need to change how we live, want/desire and buy. Consumerism has created our desires to buy so much stuff Made in China, etc.

Why not find ways to increase our desires/wants/ needs to prioritize Make/Re-Use/Repair as what we 'aspire' to?

Just sayin....

Hateisnotgood
You sound rather too green there
if we stop buying stuff then GDP declines
and the rentiers and speculators who own the Tory party do not get their growth

just imagine how disastrous it would be for pension funds if people started living within their and the planet's means