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What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

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Pumperthepumper · 15/12/2019 17:42

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please Flowers

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Parker231 · 18/12/2019 17:27

I’ve been back through numerous Brexit threads and can’t find the so called wonderful reasons for leaving the EU - probably as they don’t exist whereas it’s easy to list the positive reasons for remaining in the EU as they are so numerous.

Alsohuman · 18/12/2019 17:30

to look forward to the generation that fought for your freedom to disappear

That generation has gone. The youngest of them is now about 90. It’s my generation (boomers) she’s talking about and I agree with her.

Torchlightt · 18/12/2019 17:32

Devereux1 - if you're so "bright, intelligent and knowledgeable", surely you realise that the people I referred to as being in their 70s and 80s are not the generation who fought in WWII? I even explained that to you in my post. The very youngest soldiers, at the end of the war, will be 93 now.
Oh dear, not only a nasty person, but also not in fact bright, intelligent and knowledgeable? I'll give you arrogant and lacking in self-knowledge.

Devereux1 · 18/12/2019 17:33

Parker231
I’ve been back through numerous Brexit threads and can’t find the so called wonderful reasons for leaving the EU

Really? 3 years of MN, news coverage, media articles, interviews, published papers, political party manifestos, declarations and you can't find the reasons? Wow, that's amazing you can't find them.

Oh, you mean you have found them but you don't agree with them? Now that's something else entirely, isn't it?

MIdgebabe · 18/12/2019 17:39

The reasons don't make sense,

What is meant by take back control? control of what and how had we lost it? What percentage of Eu votes did not go the way supported by our MEPs? Or do you mean borders? But if control of borders is so important , why did we open our borders years before required to?

CrissmussMockers · 18/12/2019 17:39

All generalities with few specifics: "Take Back Control" of our laws, borders and the other one.

Fisheries often cited. No explanation given of who is going to buy all the whelks and sea urchins unless we have frictionless trade with the EU, for which the price will be regulatory alignment.

Shockers · 18/12/2019 17:43

I’m looking forward to getting my Irish passport and getting out of here.

Parker231 · 18/12/2019 17:46

@Devereux1 - I was referring to Mn - where are the positive reasons for leaving the EU? Being a part of the EU has been a significant part of the economic and trading success of the UK - this is now going to be list. I’m so thankful I never applied for UK citizenship.

Peregrina · 18/12/2019 17:52

We have not found reasons - we have found weary lists of the same things, as if repetition makes them true.

Of course more immigration from the rest of the world may be a good thing - make the country more cosmopolitan.

DaydreamingDay · 18/12/2019 18:26

Irish reunification is the only bright spot. The only silver lining to look forward to. A New Ireland.

DrivingMsCrazy · 18/12/2019 18:43

@Aposterhasnoname you have absolutely NO idea of the amount of grief that bitch has caused me and my family because we dare to not be exactly the look and type she wants in "her" street so yes, I do wish all manner of ills on her racist nasty bigoted vile little head. It's nothing to do with being on the left, it's everything to do with being a victim of hate. So jog on with your assumptions.

JassyRadlett · 18/12/2019 18:47

I am looking forward to the implementation of democracy, at last.

Yeah. Unelected, unconfirmed political appointees in the Cabinet are so much more democratic than unelected political appointees in the Commission who are confirmed by elected representatives.

CrissmussMockers · 18/12/2019 18:52

You can vote the racist Zak Goldsmith out, but you still can't get rid of him from govt.

Pumperthepumper · 18/12/2019 19:30

So apparently the best estimate for the 40 shiny new hospitals we’re getting is......six.

Six is less than forty, isn’t it?

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Jason118 · 18/12/2019 19:52

In the bright new world of Newspeak, 6 is 40. And it can also be 7000 if it needs to be. Just believe.

YeOldeTrout · 18/12/2019 19:53

They aren't new either, right? Just refurbs & a new ward with 10 beds type of things, if I understand correctly.

Pumperthepumper · 18/12/2019 19:56

In the bright new world of Newspeak, 6 is 40. And it can also be 7000 if it needs to be. Just believe.

Brexit: Every little helps

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Parker231 · 18/12/2019 20:02

Similar to his lies about the 50,000 nurses.

ListeningQuietly · 18/12/2019 20:50

Taking back control
is an item of belief
it can never be made tangible

dimsum123 · 18/12/2019 20:54

Ime all Brexiteers spout about the positives of Brexit are the lines they've so foolishly and gullibly swallowed, fed to them by Cummings and Johnson.

They have no idea what they actually mean or translate to in practice, how the soundbites they repeat parrot fashion, will impact, change, affect and supposedly improve their day to day lives.

I would feel sorry for them because they are going to be mightily disappointed come end of Jan 2020 when the sunny uplands are still nowhere in sight, and even more disappointed post Dec 2020 when we crash out with no deal.

They will no doubt patiently wait and wait and wait for the dramatic transformation and improvement of their lives which they were promised if we left the EU.

At some point, if they have the slightest bit of intelligence, the realisation will dawn that they were sold a pup, that unicorns don't exist, and at that point I will take great pleasure in saying I told you so and you made your bed and now you must lie in it no matter how uncomfortable, painful, broken it is. Serve you right you gullible, unthinking fools.

Afaic this country is never going to heal or come together. I will never ever accept the damage that is being done to this country by the brexiteer fools and charlatans.

Peregrina · 18/12/2019 21:03

At least the 50,000 more nurses is a tangible number. One which the Opposition when they stop squabbling, can hold him to. At each Johnson appearance it needs to be - how many new nurses have been employed this month? It is very reminiscent of Cameron's pledge in 2010 to have 9,000 more midwives, which also never happened.

Devereux1 · 18/12/2019 21:08

dimsum123

I'll respond just to your post, because it illustrates beautifully how so many of you really have no idea, or don't want to have an idea, what we really think and what happened.

Ime all Brexiteers spout about the positives of Brexit are the lines they've so foolishly and gullibly swallowed, fed to them by Cummings and Johnson.
But I didn't swallow anything from Johnson and Cummings. I knew years before the referendum I wanted to leave. The campaign, Johnson and Cummings had zero impact on me. I know you desperately want to believe this; however it's fake and untrue.

They have no idea what they actually mean or translate to in practice
Yes we do. We thought carefully. I know you desperately want to believe this; however it's fake and untrue.

how the soundbites they repeat parrot fashion, will impact, change, affect and supposedly improve their day to day lives.
I don't repeat soundbites, I have always stated what I thought and felt. Since I wasn't swayed by anything there are no soundbites for me to repeat. Things matter to me which obviously don't matter to you. I see Brexit as improving my life and that of my country. I know you desperately want to believe I have picked up soundbites and the rest, but it is fake and untrue.

and even more disappointed post Dec 2020 when we crash out with no deal.
Why? Where do you get this from? Most Leavers I know, including myself, never wanted any sort of deal to start with. I would be totally happy with no deal. All this "crash out with no deal" nonsense was dreamt up by Remainers. Over these 3 years, have you never considered that actually Leavers are absolutely fine with no deal? I know you desperately don't want to believe that's true, but it is. We have no fear. Never have. Never will. No deal? Bring it on. 100% happy with it. Can I be any clearer?

They will no doubt patiently wait and wait and wait for the dramatic transformation and improvement of their lives which they were promised if we left the EU.
I wasn't promised anything. I looked at our situation and I decided if ever I were given the opportunity to vote, I would vote to Leave. I did so. I am prepared for any negative results that come from significant change such as this, as there always is, and I accept them. That's my choice and my right to make that choice. I know you desperately don't want to believe this, and desperately want to believe all that you have written, but everything you write is some strange transposition of Remain view on Brexiteers.

At some point, if they have the slightest bit of intelligence, the realisation will dawn that they were sold a pup
I wasn't sold anything because I wasn't a buyer.

I will take great pleasure in saying I told you so and you made your bed and now you must lie in it
It gives me great pleasure to say we won the referendum, after 3 years you have tried to destroy democracy and refuse us the victory we had, you have finally been shut up, and finally we can get on with it. I am filled with great pleasure now. I am revelling in the bed and delighted to be lying in it.

ivykaty44 · 18/12/2019 21:16

I see Brexit as improving my life and that of my country.

Give me some hope, how is it going to improve your life?

Parker231 · 18/12/2019 21:26

Why on earth would you be happy with no deal - madness! Have you any idea on how this would (definitely) destroy jobs, the economy and how would you manage the supply chain?

Pumperthepumper · 18/12/2019 21:26

I think probably this I don't repeat soundbites, I have always stated what I thought and felt followed by ‘fake and untrue’ several times after a post about ‘make Britain great again’ shows the extent of Devereux1’s critical thinking. That and yet another post with no tangible benefits.

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