BBC removing audience laughter at Boris

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And replacing it with applause.

How is this not censorship?!

Google BBC remove laughter for links but this has both clips

evolvepolitics.com/watch-bbc-edits-out-question-time-audience-laughing-at-boris-johnson-for-their-news-clip-video/

Appalling for a public broadcaster to deliberately edit a clip to make a candidate in a GE look more positive and not for the first time either. BBC has lost all credibility here.

I mean that there is a subset of voters think that "the end justifies the means"

Indeed:
"20 Nov Labour council 'illegally registered thousands of students to vote in General Election without their knowledge' in move that could swing two close fights for seats."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7705563/Labour-council-illegally-registered-thousands-students-vote.html

were all over The Today Programme the morning after the broadcast

Lots of people only watch the BBC news so wouldn't hear that. I only know one person who listens to Radio 4.

I mean that there is a subset of voters think that "the end justifies the means" and that it's fine to be a bit dishonest or to break the rules as long as you get away with it and in particular as long as you end up on top.

If your response to this is that "well the other side did x or y" you are basically outing yourself as one of those voters who actively approves of dishonesty.

If your response to this is that "well the other side did x or y" you are basically outing yourself as one of those voters who actively approves of dishonesty.

It depends on what you mean by "dishonesty" - most people on here seem to think that the Led By Donkeys fake 'Brexit Party' website is amusing for example ... no doubt you disagree with them.

“most people on here seem to think that the Led By Donkeys fake 'Brexit Party' website is amusing for example“

How is that the same?

the Led By Donkeys fake 'Brexit Party' website is amusing for example

The website doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it is: a giant Farage piss-take which has the subsidiary aim of raising money for the JCWI.

You can agree with this sort of trolling or not, but it's transparent about its aims and makes no pretence of being politically neutral.

If the Labour Party had bought the domain, pretended to be FullFact, and then used it to disseminate pro-EU material - you might have a point. I'd be strongly against that sort of deception.

I heard laughter at both Boris and Corbyn.

It depends on what you mean by "dishonesty"

Also - by "dishonesty" I mean saying stuff you know to be untrue, or pretending to be something that you are not, with the explicit aim of deceiving people.

Is there another meaning?

Note that I don't class as "dishonest" a refusal to cost policies, like the Tory refusal to cost their flagship Brexit policy, or Labour not having properly costed plan for their pension giveaway.

Not disclosing that sort of thing is not ideal - voters have the right to proper disclosure - but it's not "dishonest". "Dishonest" is lying about the cost, like for example the Chancellor claiming that there is no cost to the Brexit plan, when he knows this to be untrue.

How about this?

Labour's Union leader, Len McCluskey on LBC today -

'Labour will negotiate a better, more credible deal with the EU - full access to the single market but without freedom of movement, bespoke customs deal without being in the customs union'...the EU 'needs us' - Labour can get the right deal within 3 months...

Incredulous laugh from the radio host...

LedbyDonkeys is a known political campaign group that calls politicians out on lies and by poking fun at them. The BBC is our NATIONAL BROADCASTER the go to for most of the country for factual reliable news, the supposed beacon of respectable journalism and impartiality. No comparison really.

I would be more upset with the BBC for not telling Jeremy Corbyn to straighten his glasses the other night.

Len McCluskey

He's only promising what the Leave campaign, led by Gove and Johnson, promised. Clueless or dishonest. Take your pick.

He's only promising what the Leave campaign, led by Gove and Johnson, promised. Clueless or dishonest.Take your pick.

And you want people to vote for Labour - great endorsement.

Clav, you're really flailing here.

If McCluskey is being dishonest (which he is), he's being dishonest in exactly the same way that Gove and Johnson the Leave campaign. And you want us to vote for them?

And you want us to vote for them?

Don't be daft - I'm not expecting a remain echo chamber to vote for Boris Johnson. I don't mind if traditional Labour leave areas vote for the Brexit Party.

These are all different examples. The original example was of the impartial licensed broadcaster provider engaging in something called Frankenbiting , which is routinely frowned upon in the media industry as a wilfully manipulative practice. As backintime said!

I think everyone accepts there is lying and corruption in politics.