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BBC removing audience laughter at Boris

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fedup21 · 23/11/2019 20:23

And replacing it with applause.

How is this not censorship?!

Google BBC remove laughter for links but this has both clips

evolvepolitics.com/watch-bbc-edits-out-question-time-audience-laughing-at-boris-johnson-for-their-news-clip-video/

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Bunney2020 · 24/11/2019 11:38

I was hoping someone would post that link MrsMaisel

Audience Programmer for QT is a noted UKIP activist too... bbc are as corrupt as they come. I’ve stopped paying TV license now.

Piggywaspushed · 24/11/2019 14:06

Ah yes, that well know left wing activist Ryan Jacobz...

dorseteye.com/ryan-jacobz-the-tory-plant-that-bbc-question-time-cannot-get-enough-of/

Clavinova · 24/11/2019 14:09

QT is normally very pro Tory (the producer is publicly very right wing)

Really? Confused

Question Time, 2019, Leaders Special - BBC One
Executive Producer Nicolai Gentchev

Nicolai Gentchev:

"He attended the University of Glasgow. He has written for Socialist Review, the magazine of the Socialist Workers Party, and International Socialism (magazine)."

"He became Editor of Question Time in April 2011. In September 2011, the Question Time office moved from London to Glasgow" - in September 2016 he became the Executive Producer of QT.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolai_Gentchev

StarbucksSmarterSister · 24/11/2019 14:49

I meant Alison Fuller Pedley the Audience Producer (who allegedly chooses the audience). She is a member of "British Patriot Front" FB group, supports UKIP and Britain First .

Clavinova · 24/11/2019 15:49

I meant Alison Fuller Pedley the Audience Producer (who allegedly chooses the audience). She is a member of "British Patriot Front" FB group, supports UKIP and Britain First.
Audience Programmer for QT is a noted UKIP activist too.

I'm not sure that she is - 'whipping up' some 'fireworks' for TV more likely;

www.opendemocracy.net/en/ourbeeb/is-question-time-s-audience-producer-really-fascist/

"here’s a (qualified) case for the defence. I found no concrete evidence of Pedley’s far-right politics, and some counter-evidence." "She shared an article predicting “dark times” under Trump, and, shortly after his 8 November victory, a popular meme of the despairing statue of liberty."

"It’s not even clear that Pedley backed leave.That might sound ludicrous, given that she tweeted her support–but a week before the referendum, she tweeted supporting Remain."

"In contacting the EDL, UKIP, Better Off Out and GOP, what was Pedley doing? Stacking the deck with favoured right and far-right voices, or plugging gaps to “balance” the crowd? There’s no transparency here, so we don’t know. But either is a scandal. Asking activists to represent the public is like asking trainspotters to represent commuters: enthusiasts just aren’t normal."

"Maybe that’s what broadcasters want–after all, fireworks make “good TV."

"But good TV does not equal good democracy. Question Time offers the public a rare mass media platform; how it selects audiences needs to become transparent and accountable.The BBC must record methods used, demographic and polling data consulted, applications, invitations, approvals and rejections, and publish them. Media companies shouldn’t get to decide in secret, by secret means, who’s in, who’s out and who’s invited."

Re FB likes/shares;

"The BBC said that Fuller-Pedley has informed her employer at Mentorn that the posts were shared “unwittingly”
"The BBC also stated that Fuller-Pedley had no influence over panellists [or editing], though it did not respond to questions about her influence in selecting audience members."

www.commonspace.scot/articles/10001/bbc-reprimands-question-time-producer-over-far-right-social-media-posts

LemonGingerCakes · 24/11/2019 15:51

I can’t believe how BLATANTLY the conservatives have been lying - online fake websites, this and so much more.

HOW can they do it so clearly out in the open??! Yet still people lap it up!!

Clavinova · 24/11/2019 15:56

I can't imagine how right wing people must be to think QT is normally packed with Lefties.

One left-leaning blog I was reading earlier not only complained that the BBC edited out the laughter, but also the "boos" when Boris Johnson walked on! Grin

Clavinova · 24/11/2019 15:59

I can’t believe how BLATANTLY the conservatives have been lying - online fake websites, this and so much more.

The executive producer is a socialist!
The audience producer doesn't edit the programme.

PreseaCombatir · 24/11/2019 16:01

The bbc being unbiased? Quelle surprise...

PreseaCombatir · 24/11/2019 16:01

*biased, not unbiased

Piggywaspushed · 24/11/2019 16:17

From the point of view of someone who understands a bit about editing, that is a very awkward edit and difficult to pull off. Easier to edit the applause than the laugh. That's a fiddly job.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 24/11/2019 16:23

The audience producer doesn't edit the programme.

It was the clip on BBC news that was edited, nothing to do with the QT editor.

Clavinova · 24/11/2019 16:45

From the point of view of someone who understands a bit about editing, that is a very awkward edit and difficult to pull off. Easier to edit the applause than the laugh.That's a fiddly job.

I think BJ started answering the question twice because of the laughter - they've just omitted his first attempt.

minesagin37 · 24/11/2019 16:46

If the BBC carry on sensoring in this way I'm going to stop watching. To be honest I practically have already!

Dusty01 · 24/11/2019 16:51

Not sure if this has been talked about but more BBCbias here.

twitter.com/JonJonesSnr/status/1198356064573566977

lljkk · 24/11/2019 16:56

Radio 4 World this weekend talked about the laughter at BJ for a good 5 minutes this afternoon.

Piggywaspushed · 24/11/2019 16:58

No clavinova, that's not what has been done. Editing is a complex thing.

fedup21 · 24/11/2019 17:33

HOW can they do it so clearly out in the open??! Yet still people lap it up!!

I know-some people just don’t care what they are being shown. I wonder what the BBC would have to do to get everyone cross?

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Clavinova · 24/11/2019 17:33

that's not what has been done. Editing is a complex thing.

If you say so.

I wouldn't worry - Fiona Bruce was reading out Boris Johnson quotes from 20 years ago to make up for it.

From the Independent:

"Boris Johnson suddenly materialised. I assumed he would struggle to assert himself with an audience that sounded quite noisily left-wing and substantially Scottish..."

"but Johnson cut through, while Corbyn got stuck in his own ‘neutrality’"

Mistigri · 24/11/2019 17:53

Yet still people lap it up!!

A lot of people actively like the fact that the Johnson Tories lie and get away with it.

CendrillonSings · 24/11/2019 18:06

A lot of people actively like the fact that the Johnson Tories lie and get away with it.

You mean the way Labour lied that their manifesto was “fully costed” and then pulled an extra 58 billion pounds out of their arse today? Grin

Mistigri · 24/11/2019 18:12

No, I don't mean that at all (as you know perfectly well).

I mean that there is a subset of voters think that "the end justifies the means" and that it's fine to be a bit dishonest or to break the rules as long as you get away with it and in particular as long as you end up on top.

The fake factchecking account was designed to appeal to these people, who actively approve of that sort of behaviour.

Defenestratethecat · 24/11/2019 18:13

News about the laughter, recordings of the laughter, recordings of the hard time the audience gave Boris (and the other party leaders), references to the laughter, commentary on the laughter etc, etc, etc were all over The Today Programme the morning after the broadcast. I guess they had to cut some of the laughter from the broadcast otherwise there wouldn’t have been any time for the Q and As.

Mistigri · 24/11/2019 18:14

And I think some of these people work at the BBC.

They don't really care about public scrutiny, because there isn't really any effective scrutiny of government or the media any more.

tabulahrasa · 24/11/2019 18:23

“The BBC were so biased against Boris. Fiona interrupted him constantly and the audience were all lefty activists. They were disgraceful“

I thought he got much easier questions before the hand up question stage than everyone else...

And she had to interrupt him to get him to stop answering every question with get Brexit done.

So if you think it was biased against him and I think the opposite then I suspect it was pretty fair tbh.

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