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Westminstenders: From Uxbridge to...?

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 31/10/2019 17:44

Speaker Bercow is gone.

Speculation that Johnson is parachuting into Rutland.

Rumours that the Brexit Party won't contest the election.

A new speaker to be elected on Monday.

Parliament to dissolve next week.

Brexit? Oh we've forgotten that until Friday 13th...

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thecatfromjapan · 01/11/2019 23:21

And Labour Party policies aren't that extreme.

No evisceration of the NHS for a start.

That is extreme.

Basilpots · 01/11/2019 23:22

never thought I'd add such a feminist featherto my cap 😂

Never too late narrows your voting options though !

prettybird · 01/11/2019 23:24

It's a franchise - they pay to be candidates. Hmm

Oakenbeach · 01/11/2019 23:27

The South West results will be interesting too.

I think the SW won’t show much change... it may have had plenty of LD seats up to 2015, but many of those seats voted ‘leave’ quite strongly so won’t end up reverting back. If the LDs do win seats it will be in and around London.

MichaelFabricantsHair · 01/11/2019 23:28

Never too late narrows your voting options though !
Massively narrows my options! Looking for a party that represents me as a biological female, whilst indulging my Lexiter stance..never gonna happen!

ArseDarkly · 01/11/2019 23:29

guess what will.sway me and my vote? Gender ID! I never thought I'd add such a feminist feather to my cap

That's the defining issue for you? Out of all others? So strange..

MichaelFabricantsHair · 01/11/2019 23:33

And no, I can't forget Ken "serious rape" Clark either, no matter how much people here paint him as a hero.

MichaelFabricantsHair · 01/11/2019 23:34

That's the defining issue for you? Out of all others? So strange..

What's strange about it? Does it make me a dreaded TERF 😱

Oakenbeach · 01/11/2019 23:36

It's unprecedented - and it's shocking that there isn't more commentary and analysis of this.

I think there’s been plenty of commentary and analysis on this. Earlier in the year I predicted at least one of the two main parties would rupture completely... Neither have.... Sure they’ve lost people - big names at that - but neither party is in the verge of a meltdown at the moment. Of course, that could change very quickly after the election for either, especially for the losing party!

placemats · 01/11/2019 23:37

thecat Good post. When you think that the referendum was solely 'put to the people' in order to placate the ERG faction of the Tory party. This faction won! You'd think this would solve the problem. But oh no, it just made things worse. Bizarre.

DustyDiamond · 01/11/2019 23:37

Looking for a party that represents me as a biological female, whilst indulging my Lexiter stance..never gonna happen!

SDP might tick your boxes?!

Don't know where they're standing candidates though.

sdp.org.uk/

thecatfromjapan · 01/11/2019 23:39

I see no analysis of what the Conservative Party now is.

I have seen no-one question Johnson about how he feels about leading a Party that has lurched to the Far Right.

And that whitewashes an extreme lurch - which is happening right in front of our eyes.

ArseDarkly · 01/11/2019 23:42

What's strange about it? Does it make me a dreaded TERF

Err..no, I wasn't thinking that at all.

CendrillonSings · 01/11/2019 23:42

Are you suggesting that someone who votes for Labour is an anti-Semite Cendrillon?

No. I’m suggesting that the party leadership plus a section of the activists are happy to tolerate antisemitism for the sake of their political goals. Which is kind of a problem for a party that claims to make anti-racism the bedrock of its morality.

And Labour Party policies aren't that extreme.

You know they are, and more importantly, so does Middle England. They have eyes and can see the tsunami of taxes and outright confiscations coming their way if Labour get a whiff of power. I’d also predict that the dog that hasn’t barked so far, namely the extremely open immigration policy passed at Labour conference, will play very badly if it makes it into the manifesto.

BigChocFrenzy · 01/11/2019 23:46

Labour policies are only extreme if you regard it as extreme for the better off to pay more tax,
maybe even getting up to the levels of the 1980s when MrsT was in power

MichaelFabricantsHair · 01/11/2019 23:47

Here's the funny; you've got women like me, laughed at for standing up against gender identity, yes it's important to me, why wouldn't it be. Am I too poor for it to matter?...working class, battling against inequality day in, day out , I guess living in social housing means I should shut up? Is my vote wasted as a Lexiter? Fact is, arse you're blindly facing people like me in the polling booth and my vote is equal to yours, get that!

BigChocFrenzy · 01/11/2019 23:50

The Tory party has certainly gone extreme when led by a PM whose policy is "Fuck business"

and whose WA will leave the country 70 billion worse off than Remaining

That's really extreme

MichaelFabricantsHair · 01/11/2019 23:51

Thank you Dusty, will check out your link ❤

Oakenbeach · 01/11/2019 23:52

He should allowed the deal to be scrutinised Oak and risked the amendments. It’s not acceptable to rush legislation of that magnitude through at lightning speed. It just makes it look as if you have something to hide.

Absolutely... I wanted the deal to be considered over a reasonable timescale (and if passed once this had occurred assuming there were no hidden bombshells) before an election, so the election could focus on our relationship with Europe post-Brexit, rather than this being drowned out by the clamour to “get Brexit done”.

However, it didn’t suit BJ to deliver the WAB before an election, and lose all those voters who’ll vote to “get Brexit done” but won’t be nearly as keen afterwards. It’s entirely conceivable that he engineered this - knowing providing a few days to pass the WAB wouldn’t pass the Commons....

Tactically BJ and Cummings are winning the war at the moment... Tory vote is noticeably up on where it was a few weeks ago. Whether it will stay that way is anyone’s guess.

Oakenbeach · 01/11/2019 23:55

PM whose policy is "Fuck business"

It’s not his “policy”... it was a stupid throw away comment he once made.

ArseDarkly · 01/11/2019 23:56

Am I too poor for it to matter?...working class, battling against inequality day in, day out , I guess living in social housing means I should shut up? Is my vote wasted as a Lexiter?

What the fuck are you on about? I am only questioning that you would put the issue of self id above all others, it seems so minor and self-interested but obviously people will vary wildly on these matters.

Also, don't make assumptions about me and my life.

I've no idea what a 'lexiter' is.

FMFL · 01/11/2019 23:57

Late PMK

tobee · 01/11/2019 23:57

Been catching up on today's posts.

What is Farage's game? Is it just to cause endless chaos in the United Kingdom? I know he's got a mahoosive ego and all that, but I can't believe that that's it? Why is he putting himself in such a position electorally? He & his project are unlikely to do that well, surely? It only serves to split the EU vote possibly. Why is he still campaigning?

And more the point, who's paying him? Hmm

BigChocFrenzy · 01/11/2019 23:57

No laughter from me on standing up to the TRAs

All the parties seem to have bought into the TRA fantasy - Miller & Mordaunt are typical of Tories ditching women's rights to pretend social liberalism

As a RadFem, I vehemently oppose self-ID
and I support retaining single sex spaces and single sex sport, regardless of whether a biological male has a certificate of some kind

It is only an issue like Brexit, that will damage the country for decades, that takes precedence for me

tobee · 01/11/2019 23:59

Yeah Mumsnet: the well known anti self ID forum! Hmm