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Does Jeremy Corbyn want a no deal Brexit

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Eeeeeby · 08/10/2019 20:14

Obviously he can't say so, but surely his best chance of getting elected would be in the aftermath of the unelected BoJo forcing though no deal, against the will of Parliament. Particularly if some of the predictions about jobs/prices/shortages/etc come true.

He's no ardent supporter of the EU.

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secretsciurusvulgaris · 08/10/2019 20:19

In my opinion, yes, I have thought this for a while. If the UK economy collapsed it would be more straightforward for him to get through his amazingly well thought through economic plans.

bellinisurge · 08/10/2019 21:51

What @secretsciurusvulgaris said. Sadly.

gottagetbetter7 · 08/10/2019 22:01

Interesting thought. He is such a twat it would not surprise me.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 08/10/2019 22:01

No, I don’t think he does. I happen to believe his economic plans, to dismantle the cosy neo liberal consensus is the reason centrists spend more time criticising Labour than the actual party that caused this brexit mess.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 08/10/2019 22:02

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KennDodd · 08/10/2019 22:05

I think he does and he wants the Tories to take all the blame.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 08/10/2019 22:11

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 08/10/2019 22:12

Completely agree smile

ListeningQuietly · 08/10/2019 22:18

Corbyn has always wanted to leave the EU
BUT
This current mess is entirely the fault of Cameron, JRM, May and Bozo

Notstrongandstable · 08/10/2019 22:24

Jesus wept, so now we're blaming JC for a No deal Brexit if it happens?
Get a grip people.
Yes he's not a fan of the EU and wants to leave, that's a big problem for me as otherwise I would be a natural supporter of left wing policies.
Point the finger where it belongs... the Tories.

Notthebloodymustardcushion · 08/10/2019 22:26

Yes. I think so, he has been a eurosceptic for years, it’s an easy out isn’t it? He gets the objective he has always craved ie; Brexit, but gets the opportunity to present himself as the saviour in the (supposed) aftermath and gain the power he craves with ‘no blood on his hands’, quite a calculated and savvy strategy really. What he underestimates is that most logical people see through his flip floppy BS, and do not want an extreme left, socialist, momentum led government.

Bluntness100 · 08/10/2019 22:29

No, he wants to stay.

That's what he can't say.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 08/10/2019 22:30

He has wanted out of the EU his whole life, of course he wants a no deal. He could stop it tomorrow by agreeing a GNU, he refuses to do that.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 08/10/2019 22:44

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Walkingdeadfangirl · 08/10/2019 22:50

Boris doesn't want to stop it. Corbyn is saying he wants to stop it but he is the only one with the power to actually stop it. And is refusing to do so. Not a deflection just fact.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 08/10/2019 22:53

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Walkingdeadfangirl · 08/10/2019 22:56

And explain how he has the power to reign in two other parties and the independents?
Because they are all saying they will accept a neutral MP leading the GNU, its only Corbyn who is refusing to stand aside. Maybe he is afraid this is the only way he will ever be PM...

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Tanith · 08/10/2019 23:13

The Prime Minister is Boris Johnson. It is the Prime Minister who has the power to Revoke.
The Government currently in power is the Conservative Government (at least in name!). They are in charge.

Jeremy Corbyn is the Leader of the Opposition.
His party is the Labour Party. They are currently not in power. They are the Opposition.

If we crash out with No Deal, it will be entirely the fault of the Conservatives - the Government in power - and their Prime Minister Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will be responsible.

pumkinseason · 08/10/2019 23:14
  • No, he wants to stay.

That's what he can't say.*

He doesn't want to stay, I wish he did. The majority of his party want to but he never has.
Don't know if wants a no deal Brexit, if he doesn't he isn't doing much to prevent it.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 08/10/2019 23:33

Isn't the job of the opposition leader to oppose? If they refuse to oppose and just say, "meh, its to hard, people dont like me". Then you are dam right its partly his fault. It is literally his job to stop this and he is impotent.

cherin · 08/10/2019 23:38

He doesn’t want no deal, Labour never ever mentioned no deal, the party and it’s reps have always been messy in all sorts of other details but have always said they’d want to negotiate a deal.
He knows No deal would be a disaster for his traditional constituencies first (all the others as well, IMO, but might have a bit more cushion), and that no amount of nationalisation, public spending etc can compensate for a full blown recession.
His problem is that he saw that he could not go with a simple policy (something that could summarised in a 3 words slogan), because his electorate is split, and going one way or another would lose votes.
Votes he’s losing anyway, but you know...we’re not at the real polling station yet. Polls have been very wrong before, for all sorts of reasons.
I agree with smile.
You can say the opposition is weak and the strategy is wrong. But the idea at the start of this entire process was even more wrong and the execution of this idea is now becoming criminal. Take responsibility. Started with that idiotic minion of Farage, then became a Tory idea to get rid of him, and it was BJ in person that decided to put his bum on that bus and give voice to the lies. Not labour, not LD, not the greens etc

everythingisginandroses · 08/10/2019 23:41

It's actually all the Lib Dems' fault. If they hadn't propped up the Tories in government from 2010-15, we wouldn't be where we are now. Their leader keeps posing as the Great I Am of Anti-Brexit but won't actually work with the Opposition to stop a crash-out because she doesn't like JC's anorak. She's an arse in an arse party. See, we can all find someone to blame, can't we?

time4chocolate · 08/10/2019 23:59

He doesn’t want no deal, Labour never ever mentioned no deal, the party and it’s reps have always been messy in all sorts of other details but have always said they’d want to negotiate a deal

Well then he needs to call a VONC have a GE, get an extension which the EU will give on that basis and get his own deal done but no, it’s still not a convenient time for him so he is going to sit it out for a bit longer and we are now in another period of poroguement (if that’s a word!) so that ship has pretty much sailed off into the sunset.

Each and every mp has contributed to where we are now (admittedly some have made a bigger contribution than others).

ArseDarkly · 09/10/2019 05:33

Of course he doesn't. Unlike Johnson, he genuinely cares about the country and is well aware of the terrible impact no-deal would have on ordinary people.