Freedom of movement with Aus, NZ and Canada, post Brexit?

[Mackerz]

www.canzukinternational.com/category/free-movement

This is interesting. As part of a post Brexit trade deal, Britain and Australia are considering relaxing immigration controls between the two countries.

"Canada, NZ and Australia are all very similar countries to the UK - fully developed, strong economies, good standard of living, welfare state, state-funded education, good healthcare, etc and relatively small, well-educated populations. "

Nice code work

I think it would be great actually, not that I'd want to move to any of them, just that especially for young people wanting to experience working abroad without the worry of visas running out it would make things much easier.

Working holiday visas or visas for an 'overseas experience' are easy to get from and to Aus, NZ and the UK, not sure about Canada.

I wonder why no one mentions the US?
After all they're the ones who want a trade deal, so we should insist on FOM there. Don't we want free access to the world's 1st economy? Especially considering we'll have to align with them anyway if we leave with no EU deal.

Absolutely!
I’d far rather my kids had the right to live & work in the U.S than Poland.

I think Bellinisurge is being rather racist towards our Aussie, NZ and Canadian cousins,

The democrats have said they will block a US v UK trade deal if the UK leaves with a no deal.

Yes @Mackerz . That's exactly it

@par@Parker231

We are talking about Aus, Nz, Canada. Not the USA.

Because other posters mentioned US.

Mackerz - others have mentioned the US and freedom of movement there.

Selfishly, it would suit us to have free movement to NZ as DH's brother lives there so it would give us and our children an easier option to go and live near to them if we fancy it.

Before Eastern European accession I don’t recall freedom of movement being mentioned

Well that would be because it didn't exist.

Eastern European countries were established members of the EU before Freedom of Labour (note its labour, not just free movement) was introduced.

Freedom of movement without working is restricted to three months and brings no entitlement to any form of benefits. Even those who are working and paying taxes have to do so for an eligibility period before getting the benefits their taxes fund.

Not sure what you mean, freedom of labour predates freedom of movement as we know it today and eastern countries were certainly not part of it at that point:

On 8 November 1968, regulation (EEC) no 1612/68 entered into force was fully implemented within the Communities.Through this regulation, the original article 49 of the EEC treaty was implemented and all nationals of the member states obtained the right to take up an employment in another member state on the same conditions as the nationals of that particular member state.

Nice code work

If you're trying to suggest that I'm being racist @bellinisurge I suggest you take a look at the make up of the populations of those three countries - they're not all white or formerly British. Australia has, since the 1970s, welcomed immigrants from Asia in large numbers, the 'white Australia' policy is long gone. Canada also has a pretty diverse population. I've never been to NZ so can't comment.

It won't happen. What do the Australians have to gain? They can already import skilled labour. They won't want elderly or low-skilled Brits clogging up their healthcare system.

go to the gabba with a black or Asian friend & tell me the only racists are the British baby boomers.

100% this. I will never again live in that racist shit-hole.

makes complete sense given the strong hisotrical links we have with these countries.

The wonderful historical link of colonialism. So much better than, for example, the 700 year auld alliance between France and Scotland. The ink is still wet on that one, right?

Remoaners hate the British, particularly anyone over 50 & white English.
Ageist & racist.

That's right, dear. Whatever you say, dear.

Remoaners hate the British, particularly anyone over 50 & white English.
Ageist & racist.

You're not doing yourselves any favours with posts like these.

I'm over 50 and white. Eff off.

How difficult is the visa system for educated healthy professionals to work/travel between these four countries anyway?

Unless you're shortage / sponsored then it's actually really hard to get a visa. I'm a solicitor and not wanted (as I'm not needed) in NZ.

I'm over 50 and white too.

Why not start your posts with "I'm not racist but" those of you are extolling the White Commonwealth. If immigrants to Australia are now increasingly from South Asia, why should they regard themselves as having links with Britain?