Do we genuinely need to stockpile?

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In light of this morning’s news, I have started to wonder if we genuinely do need to stock up in the event of a no deal Brexit? None of us (touch wood) require any ongoing medication, though 9mo DD has a sensitive tummy when it comes to milk and tolerates HiPP best. I’ve a feeling cows’ milk won’t go down well when she’s 12mo, and was planning to try almond milk or similar as a back up.

Should we be stocking up on HiPP/milk alternatives/Calpol etc?

Luckily we’re just switching to reusable nappies and wipes, so that’s one less thing to think of I guess.

Just a reminder that this may be an opportunity to buy more local produce. I asked my local butcher if they would be affected by Brexit and they said no because they bought all their meat from local farms. Same from fishmongers in our market. All from local port. I'm sure there may be some disruptions but instead of going to the supermarket and buying your usual imported meat and fish, why not look at your local high street.

@AdrenalinBrush 🤦‍♀️

@Ohflippineck I've been around enough of these threads to know how offended people get by any mention of buying extra supplies in case of future shortages. I've been ridiculed plenty of times before!

I was talking to a farmer a few months back, that supplies one of the big supermarkets and asking him if Brexit would be good for him, as demand for local produce will increase. His answer was, thats no fucking help if I don’t have anyone to pick the fucking stuff! He explained that many of his workers are from the EU and he’ll lose a lot of them, due to Brexit. The large supermarket was trying to get it’s suppliers to sign a contract to cover two years, instead of the usual one year, because they wanted to control how much the farmers could charge. He refused, as he said fuel prices, etc will rise and he has to charge for his food accordingly. He’s not even sure if they will be able to get the fertiliser they use now, because it’s shipped from abroad. He was giving off about the level of ignorance that people have about growing veg. As he said, you don’t just chuck a few seeds in soil and voila, you have veg. It takes machinery (fuel/machinery prices will rise) people (many of whom will return to their home countries) fertiliser (which is brought from abroad). I don’t see too many reasons to be confident about our ability to grow enough food to feed everyone. As usual the poor will suffer the most, due to the cost of food raising.

@AdrenalinBrush We lost our local fruit and veg shop a few years ago. The local butcher is exorbitantly priced. I shop locally as much as possible but the reality is, people shop in supermarkets because they're often cheaper.

AdrenalinBrush - another faq for you

2 But surely it won't affect uk products

many if not most uk products require ingredients/raw materials from outside the uk. Also, again as we're not self sufficient that means more people using U.K. Products who previously would have bought non uk alternatives. This means less uk made food to go around and probably higher prices.

It's really not as simple as "just buy local" we don't grow/produce anywhere NEAR enough within uk NOW to feed the whole population and that's WITH eu subsidies, labour and essentials for supporting that growth/production like parts for farm machinery, fertiliser...

Plus many uk products are more expensive already, people like me on a ltd budget and those already struggling to feed their families don't HAVE more money to spend!

My butcher is pretty chilled because he sells UK grass /mangle fed meat along with culled venison and rabbits.
The meat is twice the price of a supermarket, so we eat less of it.
Good for the environment, good for us.
Cheap food is not "good"
In the USA all food is sold on price, not flavour nor provenance nor ethics.
A trade deal with the US would take the UK down that path.
Not a "good thing"

I started today, with buying a few extra baked beans and canned tomatoes...I'd rather have a few extra stashed away and then just not need to buy any for a few weeks if Brexit doesn't happen than for Brexit to happen and there be shortages!
I bought the last of yeast (not for stockpile) at Tescos today and no white bread flour at all which I found quite surprising. Will have to try another supermarket tomorrow.

Shop local? Great if you are In the inner city...

Brexit means Brexit and it is all totally wonderful for everyone isn't it.

Honestly, what are they smoking.

“Just Buy British”

Another one of those super-simplistic feel-good empty slogans.

The UK has not been self-sufficient in food for centuries.

And even if you, personally, genuinely hand-on-heart only allow True British-grown crops to enter the unsullied True British temple of your body, shortages in nasty Forrin supplies could potentially affect you.

Consider:

Say, hypothetically, each human dwelling on these hallowed isles requires 5 vegetables per day. Now imagine a hypothetical very simplified diet such that these 5 vegetables consist of 3 True British carrots and 2 Forrin tomatoes; therefore the 60 million UK population needs 180 million carrots and 120 million tomatoes, i.e. 300 million vegetables per day. In our scenario, we are self-sufficient in True British carrots.

Now imagine that we’ve snarled up the 120 million Forrin tomatoes in a many-day customs tailback, where they can gently moulder into rotten mush instead of gracing the supermarket shelves. Shoppers therefore seek out other vegetables/fruit to fulfil their 5-a-day requirement. So, arithmetic fans, are our 180 million True British carrots still self-sufficient to feed the 300-million-vegetable requirement of the population?

@AdrenalinBrush I am old enough to remember the jolly 70s with all the local shops and my mum spending ages going from one shop to the other.

1. Where are people going to get the money from?
2. Where are people going to get the time from?
3. Tell those people on here who were whinging a couple of weeks ago about not enough ice lollies in the supermarket during the heatwave.

I discovered that we have all the ice lollies today! So many in the freezer!

Hooray! You are sorted!

Just got in, tired and hungry, so boiled up some stashed rice and ate it with onions and courgettes from freezer and mushrooms and garlic from the fridge. Veg stir fried in olive oil, then added some tinned kidney beans (both from larder stash)
Very tasty! I love my stockpile

TheElementsSong I expect most people don't realise that it's suppose to be five different types of fruit and veg a day. 3 veg, 2 fruit. What veg and fruit do we grow here over winter? Parsnips, carrots, turnips, onions, cabbage. No caulis this year. Sprouts? I'm more a mushrooms, red peppers and spinach girl myself. I like carrots too. And corn on the cov. I'm not a very patriotic eater.

Apples store for a few months, as do pears, though older types lasted longer.

Veg, carrots store, we were eating ever increasingly dodgy British carrots well into spring.

Potatoes will keep for a bit in a clamp.

Onions in a cool garage/ shed.

We’ve picked some of the apples from the allotment today (global warming or not, they’re ready early!) but have no confidence they’ll keep in a warm flat. I can see the next few nights spent at the foodmill doing applesauce....must find more jars, though...