Westminstenders: The Imperial March

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There are many ways to enforce power indirectly using privilege. Jacob Rees Mogg knows every trick in the book and dresses it up as respectability rather than a subtle form or intimidation and deliberate exclusion.

It's not the stuff 'of the people'.

Meanwhile the newly crowned PM, is making rather a bug deal of how he is the man 'of the people', here to serve them and to deliver their will.

There's a big theme here about presenting as 'of the people' whilst simultaneously serving the interests of the elite and reestablishing its power over the people.

It's a theme that is set to run for some time, and is entrenched in Trumpism too.

This shift in power is particularly harmful to women it must be noted.

'Strong and stable' was 'weak and wobbly' and we should be mindful that in the era of reversed spin, what 'of the people' signifies.

We've long known about the authoritarianism at the heart of leaving thinking. It's only now that it's finally going to start stomping it's feet all over our freedoms and power.

The road back will be a long and hard one because we failed to spot the threat and the dangers of it.

It's like those obscene disaster zone tourists who get a thrill out of visiting a destroyed area and then fuck off back to their home comforts

Exactly. It isn't the most edifying look.

Good job these Remaoners weren't around during WWII. We would have lost for sure. Most of them would have been imprisoned for sedition. During WWII you could be locked up for spreading enemy propaganda.

This is a Daily Mail comment. I'm not sure that I care for where all this is going.

And telling people, from a safe distance , that worrying about supplies of medicine is just scaremongering when even the Secretary of State for Health has been briefed it would be an issue and could kill some people and expressed concerns is just obscene

Maybe you could have locked up my 86 year old Remain voting Mum. The one with an uncle who was awarded a posthumous bravery medal in the Blitz as a firefighter. Both were immigrants, btw.
Fuck off with your stupid WWII bullshit. You don't know what you are talking about. Were you an adult in the war or do you get your WWII knowledge from wet Sunday afternoon films on BBC2?

Good job these Remaoners weren't around during WWII. We would have lost for sure. Most of them would have been imprisoned for sedition. During WWII you could be locked up for spreading enemy propaganda

What a load of tosh. Why don't you get a Tardis and go back in time and get a job with Lord Haw Haw?

Who exactly is the enemy? During the last war we were fighting fascism. That can't be the case now when we have at least one thread extolling a fascist commentator.

My 96 year old MIL is the only one of mine and DH's parents alive. She was on war work - she voted Remain. I.e. someone with first hand War time experience voted Remain.

I wonder how long Janista has lived in Australia for, and whether his/her vote was legal.

There has been at least one other pro-brexit person posting on here (curiously similar in posting style, but claiming to be posting from Canada and to have acquired Canadian citizenship) who had - if everything she or he wrote was true - voted fraudulently in the referendum due to the 15 year rule.

Who knows who these guys are... they're not friends of the UK that's for sure...

This tweet sums it up well. There's a name for sowers of division and destruction...

Simon Schama
(@simon_schama)
this is an INVENTED crisis; none of this has to happen - and woe betide those who are needlessly inflicting it t.co/IFYpxHBJtH

July 28, 2019

Have any Leavers wondered about the word Spiv? Why do you think it was commonly used during WW2? Ever thought why there was the need for such a word if it was all so hunky-dory and we were all pulling together?

Ever heard of the black market? Why did that exist when we were all pulling together?

Some of us (me for one )were alive when the post war rationing was still in force.

Spivs- good word. I have bottomless contempt for them.

Same in my family, peregrina. The couple of elderly relatives (both late 90s now) voted to Remain. They see the value in a Europe which has close ties and supportive relations.

I would love to see the alternative arrangements for these border crossings in Ireland. This is why they won't sign the current WA - they know there is no technology that will resolve this. I suspect first chance Boris gets the DUP will be thrown under the bus and the border will be in the Irish Sea. It is either that or no deal. twitter.com/marksugruek/status/1155957402312663041?s=19

I have to say the entire thing feels like the charge of the light brigade or generals in WW1.

That's Johnson channeling Churchill alright. Just wrong era Churchill.

I was quoting a Daily Mail comment that has worried and scared and angered me. Of the thousands in a similar vein to choose from

Definitely not my personal opinion!!

I agree that we should call people like JRM "spivs" not "disaster capitalists". The latter makes it sound legitimate.

I picked up on your quote being a quote from DM @MaxNormal !

Sorry not Brexit related but on the Tory forums (climate change deniers abound) someone has just argued against planting more trees to help reduce CO2 levels in the atmosphere because....wait for it....

"Removal of CO2 from the atmosphere would be catastrophic for the ecology. Plants need sunlight, water and ... Carbon Dioxide."

I mean obviously the second sentence is correct....but she genuinely thinks we don't need to reduce CO2 levels below current/forecast levels and if we do we'll kill plants 🤷🏻‍♀️

There are indeed opportunities to profit if you are a disaster capitalist,
or a hedge-funder betting Sterling and UK businesses will do badly

You can make hundreds of millions at a time

"Fuck business" and the workers though

I wish they would stop calling it climate change though - because the climate changes over time. Hence we have had a number of Ice Ages. What it really is, is an accelerated warming. I suppose that is not catchy enough.

I welcome posters from anywhere

My only wish is that they have something intelligent to contribute,
rather than believing that feelz beats trade economics

People who actually achieve their dreams have a feasible plan, years of hard work - and usually luck
People who are just dreamers don't do well

"Accelerated climate change" ?

because the consequences are not just hotter weather, even if the fundamental cause is C02-driven warming

Indeed Bigchoc.

I personally have no patience for the vultures and hyenas poised to pick on our carcass.

Dh (who is more into Twitter) tells me that the Stirling Conservatives are trying to claim that the booing at Bute House was at Nicola because she is sooooo unpopular

That would be why BlowJob left by the back door.......

Johnson is in Wales today, I think. He should expect more boo-ing. And then NI . More boo-ing. Can you hear boo-ing in his bubble?

So it's not really a actual thunderstorm warning for today, the rumblings are going to be caused by the booing and any lightening will be the flashes of anger